
Search News You Can Use - SEO Podcast with Marie Haynes
Search News You Can Use is Marie Haynes' Weekly Podcast where she provides useful advice on Google Algorithm updates, tips and information to help you improve your website. During the podcast she breaks down the most interesting and important changes that have happened in SEO and the world of search!
Latest episodes

Dec 2, 2022 • 35min
Charles Floate and Marie Haynes discuss breaking Google's guidelines, how PageRank has changed & AI
I interviewed Charles Floate, an SEO known for ranking websites in ways that go against Google's spam guidelines. We discussed PageRank and the importance of links in Google's algorithms. Charles revealed ways he's been able to manipulate Google's guidelines and succeed, though I don't condone such practices.
Our chat helped me reform my thoughts on links and their power to move the needle for rankings. Links are most definitely important in Google's algorithms and will likely remain the core for quite some time. But as Google develops new ways to identify quality content, most of which comes with AI innovations, I believe PageRank is not as important to SEO as it used to be.
In this video Charles shows me how he is able to get sites to rank. Some of what he is doing is actually improving E-A-T!
I must reiterate that breaking Google's policies can lead to serious consequences While good links can be powerful, building your own links is often either ignored by Google, or can cause manual or algorithmic penalties which can be very difficult to identify and recover from.
My hope with this video is not to encourage blackhat SEO tactics, but rather, to talk about the power of GOOD links and how that power is much more than PageRank.
Thanks for doing this, Charles. I enjoyed our chat!
Charles Floate on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/charles_seo
https://www.youtube.com/user/D4rkHacking?app=desktop
Marie’s info:
https://twitter.com/Marie_Haynes
https://mariehaynes.com/contact/
Contact Marie for a referral to companies that can help you get good links and mentions from authoritative sites in ways that comply with Google’s guidelines.
My book on auditing links (used by many agencies to train their link auditors).
My book on using the Quality Raters’ Guidelines as a checklist for site quality.
Wix SERPs Up Podcast with Mordy Oberstein and Crystal Carter:
https://www.wix.com/seo/learn/podcast

Nov 18, 2022 • 34min
What is E-A-T? Advanced discussion on E-A-T and answering subscriber questions
This week we learned from Google's HJ Kim that E-A-T is used for every single query searched on Google! In this episode Dr. Marie Haynes shares advanced information on how to assess E-A-T.
Audience questions answered:
Does E-A-T matter for tech blogs?
Is being mentioned on a big news site good for E-A-T?
Does adding expert reviewers help?
How would an ed-tech platform increase E-A-T?
How do you measure E-A-T?
Should you update old articles that were not written with E-A-T in mind?
Common E-A-T mistakes and misconceptions
Examples of sites doing well after improving E-A-T
How do you do an E-A-T audit?
Marie's QRG Book: https://mariehaynes.com/book
Links
SMX Next: https://marketinglandevents.com/smx/next/agenda/
About the QRG:
https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/hsw-sqrg.pdf
The QRG:
https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/guidelines.raterhub.com/en//searchqualityevaluatorguidelines.pdf
How search works:
https://www.google.com/search/howsearchworks/how-search-works/ranking-results/
Efficient storage and query of schemaless data
https://patents.justia.com/patent/20220358160
Google’s Guide to creating helpful content
https://developers.google.com/search/docs/fundamentals/creating-helpful-content
The video version of this podcast will be up on YT soon!

Nov 4, 2022 • 38min
Why did the October spam update crush so many sites? Important for all SEOs and website owners!
The October 2022 spam update had a massive impact on many sites. Many of these were "niche sites" - not overtly spammy, but still breaking Google's spam guidelines. With this update, it looks like Google's AI spam fighter - SpamBrain has gotten much better at finding unnatural links - links made for SEO purposes.
This is an important listen, even if you were not impacted by this update.
Buy Marie's Quality Rater's Guidelines Book/Checklist:
https://mariehaynes.com/book
Google's Spam Policies (If you were hit, you likely were doing one or more of these things)
https://developers.google.com/search/docs/essentials/spam-policies
Google's guidelines on creating helpful, reliable, people-first content:
https://developers.google.com/search/docs/fundamentals/creating-helpful-content
What Google has said about guest posting:
https://www.mariehaynes.com/google-guest-posting-recommendations/
Gary Illyes talking to Danny Sullivan about links being labeled as "footer", "penguinized" and so on:
https://searchengineland.com/googles-link-labels-260892
What links can you get that comply with Google's Guidelines?
Marie's Moz Whiteboard Friday. It's old, but still good.
https://moz.com/blog/what-links-comply-googles-guidelines-whiteboard-friday

Oct 13, 2022 • 27min
Analyzing the September Core Update - To recover, you may need to focus on "needs met"
The September Core update feels different to me! In this episode I share my thoughts after analyzing many pages that won and lost following this Google core update.
The most important thing a site can work on if hit is ensuring that you are the best option to meet the immediate needs of the searcher. If we thoroughly understand the intent of searchers, we can create content that helps them meet that need better than other sites.
In this episode I review two pages that did well following the September core update. They may look like they are lacking E-A-T, but I think Google promoted them because they quickly met searcher needs.
I also share how the Helpful Content Update may have introduced a way for Google to better determine which pages are meeting the needs of searchers.
https://developers.google.com/search/blog/2019/08/core-updates
https://www.amsivedigital.com/insights/seo/winners-losers-of-the-september-2022-core-update-product-reviews-update/
https://www.semrush.com/blog/september-2022-core-update-impact/
https://www.google.com/search/howsearchworks/how-search-works/ranking-results/
https://www.amsivedigital.com/insights/seo/winners-losers-of-the-september-2022-core-update-product-reviews-update/
https://www.wix.com/seo/learn/resource/content-lessons-google-may-2022-update
https://moz.com/blog/click-based-seo-engagement-signals
Interview with Alan Kent from Google. Machine learning is discussed at 18:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZuEQY11khw
How the quality raters work:
https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/hsw-sqrg.pdf
Frédéric Dubut of Bing on SEOs shifting to intent research instead of keyword research
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTriTRmEf34
Register for free to watch Marie’s talk on Google’s quality questions at SMX Next:
https://attend.marketinglandevents.com/smx-next-2022?i=H0RFJApYbpWJKGGJ1ihWY0ciBytHmhUB
Book a strategy session with Marie:
https://mariehaynes.com/contact
https://mariehaynes.com/book - QRG checklist book

Sep 29, 2022 • 17min
What SEOs need to know about Google's Search On 2022 Event
SEO is changing so much! In this episode Marie shares what SEOs can learn from Google’s Search On 2022 event. Is Google going to replace Amazon as the place where people go to buy online? Google announced many changes coming to shopping. Many of the upcoming changes to search are going to make the life of SEOs difficult. If you want to stay on top of these changes, listen to Marie’s thoughts on how search is changing and how we can keep up.
Marie’s notes on the Search On event:
https://twitter.com/Marie_Haynes/status/1575195686366085120
Search On Google 2022
https://blog.google/products/search/search-on-2022-announcements/
Newsletter:
https://mariehaynes.com/newsletter
Marie’s book on using the QRG as a checklist for site quality:
https://mariehaynes.com/book
Contact Marie:
https://mariehaynes.com/contact

Sep 15, 2022 • 36min
The September 2022 core update is live! How to assess impact in the early days of an update
The September 2022 Core update is live! The helpful content update has finished rolling out. In this episode we discuss:
1) How the September Core Update and Helpful content updates may be related
2) What to look for in early analytics data to see if you’ve been hit
3) Google has told us specifically how to recover - It’s all about content and E-A-T
4) Why Google’s core update questions are so important - machine learning likely plays a role!
5) A bit on how we analyze competitors’ pages after a core update hit
Apologies for the pointer clicking as I was screensharing! I’ll mute that sound the next time I record my screen.
Links mentioned:
https://developers.google.com/search/updates/ranking
https://developers.google.com/search/blog/2022/08/helpful-content-update
Resources on E-A-T:
https://www.mariehaynes.com/resources/eat/
https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/guidelines.raterhub.com/en//searchqualityevaluatorguidelines.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccNPlL-a1g
Marie’s newsletter:
https://mariehaynes.com/newsletter
Marie’s book
https://mariehaynes.com/book
Contact Marie
https://mariehaynes.com/contact

Sep 1, 2022 • 53min
Alan Kent from Google and Marie Haynes discuss tips for eCommerce and product review sites
In this special podcast episode Marie welcomes Alan Kent from Google. Alan is a developer advocate who currently works on communicating changes in regards to Google’s product reviews updates. The product reviews updates are discussed in detail. Alan also shares some very interesting thoughts on how machine learning is used by Google in this type of algorithm.
Links:
Google Search Central videos with Alan Kent
All things Google Merchant Center with Alan Kent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EMAqeyKYgk
How to improve your ecommerce websites presence in Search results (6 tips)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIUQolZDecM
How to SEO optimize your ecommerce website (8 tips)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGyZqUs9XqA&list=PLKoqnv2vTMUPAMjD4uEeBjlMaB-Jj1iSo&index=7
How to make your ecommerce website stand out in Google Search (6 tips)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEpiG_AbaxA&list=PLKoqnv2vTMUPAMjD4uEeBjlMaB-Jj1iSo&index=8
How to optimize images for your ecommerce website (6 tips)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQH9IpcAucY
Send examples to Alan:
https://twitter.com/akent99

Aug 17, 2022 • 31min
Google's "About this Result" gives us clues about improving E-A-T!
Google added more information to the "About this Result" information in the search results. Their wording on what they've added to this feature is very similar to some that is in the Quality Rater Guidelines. In this episode of Search News You Can Use, Marie discusses how we can possibly use this info to improve E-A-T.
Links mentioned in this episode:
https://blog.google/products/search/information-literacy/
https://developers.google.com/search/blog/2019/08/core-updates
https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/hsw-sqrg.pdf
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/12003459
Marie’s book
https://mariehaynes.com/book
Contact Marie
https://mariehaynes.com/contact

Aug 4, 2022 • 14min
Five things I learned from Google's July Quality Raters' Guidelines Update
In this episode Dr. Marie Haynes discusses five interesting changes Google has made to the Search Quality Evaluator Guidelines, including some information from a new Google document about the raters and the work they do. We’ll learn more about what YMYL is and what Google is looking for in terms of E-A-T for the topics you write on.
Links mentioned:
https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/guidelines.raterhub.com/en//searchqualityevaluatorguidelines.pdf
https://www.blog.google/documents/37/How_Google_Fights_Disinformation.pdf/
https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/hsw-sqrg.pdf
https://www.google.com/search/howsearchworks/ho w-search-works/ranking-results/
Marie's book:
https://mariehaynes.com/book

Jul 21, 2022 • 24min
How Google's pros and cons SERP annotations are generated
In this episode Marie discusses the new “pros and cons” SERP annotations you may have seen. These are not produced by structured data! A new Google patent explains how n-grams, terms and phrases can be used to discover attributes about a product or entity and then show those right in the search results
Links mentioned in this episode:
https://www.mariehaynes.com/pros-cons-and-serp-annotations/
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/google-proscons-rich-results-annotations-simone-de-palma/
https://towardsdatascience.com/understanding-word-n-grams-and-n-gram-probability-in-natural-language-processing-9d9eef0fa058
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20210406268A1/en
https://cloud.google.com/natural-language
https://searchengineland.com/micro-intents-seo-content-journey-mapping-386544
https://www.kopp-online-marketing.com/micro-intents
https://developers.google.com/search/blog/2021/04/product-reviews-update
Hire Marie and the MHC team: https://mariehaynes.com/contact/