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Dec 8, 2023 • 20min

Gemini: The Most Profound Technological Shift in Our Lifetimes

In this episode, we dive deep into Google's revolutionary new language model, Gemini, destined to be the most impactful technological shift of our time. Host Dr. Marie Haynes unravels its capabilities, which extend beyond text to encompass images, video, and beyond. Discover how Gemini's potential to transform information access, problem-solving, and decision-making could reshape our lives. While we wait for its full potential to unfold in 2024, learn how Bard, soon integrated into Google Assistant, offers a taste of the future. This episode delves into the criticisms of AI, encouraging listeners to actively engage with Bard and explore its possibilities. We also explore the exciting world of GPTs (apps built on chat GPT), which may possibly be seen in a similar form in Google AI Studio.
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Dec 4, 2023 • 47min

How AI gave me a business, took it away, and is now carving my future.

Oh boy, finally another podcast episode! This is an unscripted chatting episode where I share the story of what happened to my agency. It formed because of an understanding of AI - except I didn't know that at the time. Imagine my surprise when I realized that wait a second - Panda and Penguin - the Google algorithm shifts that made me obsess over SEO and leave my career as a veterinarian - were machine learning systems. It was understanding AI that created my SEO agency. But, understanding and optimizing for Google search was also our downfall. I expect many of you are going down the same road I did. It is time for a huge mindset shift when it comes to SEO. We found out in the Department of Justice's Trial against Google that user engagement plays a much bigger role in determining rankings than we thought. I hope you enjoy this episode! Links mentioned: ============ My Helpful Content Workbook https://mariehaynes.com/product/creating-helpful-content-workbook/ The Search Bar: https://community.mariehaynes.com/ DOJ trial exhibits showing how much user engagement is used in the algo: https://www.justice.gov/atr/us-and-plaintiff-states-v-google-llc-2020-trial-exhibits Marie's Thoughts (paid newsletter episode) where I explain this more: https://community.mariehaynes.com/posts/ep-12-how-user-engagement-signals-are-used-in-ranking-new-info-from-the-doj-trial-against-google
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Aug 1, 2023 • 28min

Google's SGE Confirmed To Be The Future Of Search

Google has confirmed that SGE (Search Generative Experience) is not just an experiment, it is the future of search. Google's CEO Sundar Pichai said the SGE is "the next step in the journey" and also, "over time this will just be how search works." Here's what we know so far about the SGE, including screenshots of it in action. This is primarily a video episode, but even just listening, it should be quite helpful. Links mentioned in this episode: Marie's Helpful Content Workbook ($150) - This workbook will guide you through understanding user intent and creating content that meets it. https://www.mariehaynes.com/product/c... Episode 297 of Search News You Can Use https://www.mariehaynes.com/newslette... Google's Earnings Call where they discuss SGE being the future of Search https://www.mariehaynes.com/googles-v... Google's helpful content criteria https://developers.google.com/search/... Work with Marie https://www.mariehaynes.com/work-with...
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Jul 20, 2023 • 53min

How Google's Helpful Content System Has Radically Changed Search

In this long-awaited return episode of Search News, Dr. Marie Haynes explains how Google's helpful content system has radically changed search rankings. She provides background on her experience studying Google's algorithms for over 16 years, and how the company has shifted to relying more on AI systems like helpful content rather than just links and keywords. Marie walks through the evolution of major algorithm updates like Panda and Penguin, and what they revealed about Google's capabilities and focus on content quality. She explains how machine learning models can now predict helpful content, with training data from quality raters. The episode provides real-world examples of sites that were impacted by recent helpful content updates, and what specific changes Google rewarded. Marie also offers advice for those struggling with helpful content suppression and wanting to better align with Google's criteria. This episode will completely change your understanding of modern search rankings, and what you should prioritize on your site for visibility and traffic in 2023 and beyond. Don't miss Marie's long-awaited insider perspective on Google's helpful content! More from Marie: Purchase my workbook to help you assess your content and improve its helpfulness https://www.mariehaynes.com/product/creating-helpful-content-workbook/  Have me assess your site: https://www.mariehaynes.com/work-with-marie/  Book time on my calendar to brainstorm with me about your site: https://calendly.com/mariehaynes/brainstorming-with-marie? Links mentioned in this episode: https://www.mariehaynes.com/newsletter/episode-295/ (Latest episode of newsletter where we discuss Project Tailwind/NotebookLM) https://developers.google.com/search/docs/fundamentals/creating-helpful-content (Google’s Guidance  on creating helpful content) https://searchengineland.com/whats-now-next-with-google-search-smx-next-keynote-389628 (Barry Schwartz and HJ Kim interview) https://developers.google.com/search/blog/2011/05/more-guidance-on-building-high-quality (Panda questions) https://www.mariehaynes.com/google-ai-systems/ (My article on how the helpful content system works) https://moz.com/blog/nine-years-of-google-algorithm (Dr. Pete Myers heatmap showing Penguin algo turbulence)    https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/02/what-is-chatgpt-doing-and-why-does-it-work/ (understanding the math behind systems like the helpful content system) https://www.mariehaynes.com/what-we-know-about-googles-quality-raters/ How raters rate sites.
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Dec 16, 2022 • 16min

Is your traffic down? Understanding the many recent Google AI related updates and changes.

We've had so many updates lately! It's almost impossible to know why your traffic is down. And for many sites traffic *is* down tremendously. In this episode I've discussed the craziness we've seen this year with Google updates. September Core Update. Helpful Content Update. Two spam updates...there are so many things that have happened! On top of that many sites are losing traffic to Google Explore and because of ChatGPT. We also discuss whether topic filter bubbles in search and continuous scroll on desktop could be impacting you. And um, I just can't talk about E-E-A-T without bursting out laughing. Still, this is very important as Google is now valuing not just Expertise, but also Experience. I hope you enjoy this episode! Links: Buy Marie's book on Google Spam Updates: https://www.mariehaynes.com/product/spam-update-book/ Buy Marie's book on the QRG: https://www.mariehaynes.com/product/quality-raters-guidelines/ Contact Marie: https://www.mariehaynes.com/contact/
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Dec 2, 2022 • 35min

Charles Floate and Marie Haynes discuss breaking Google's guidelines, how PageRank has changed & AI

I interviewed Charles Floate, an SEO known for ranking websites in ways that go against Google's spam guidelines. We discussed PageRank and the importance of links in Google's algorithms. Charles revealed ways he's been able to manipulate Google's guidelines and succeed, though I don't condone such practices. Our chat helped me reform my thoughts on links and their power to move the needle for rankings. Links are most definitely important in Google's algorithms and will likely remain the core for quite some time. But as Google develops new ways to identify quality content, most of which comes with AI innovations, I believe PageRank is not as important to SEO as it used to be. In this video Charles shows me how he is able to get sites to rank. Some of what he is doing is actually improving E-A-T! I must reiterate that breaking Google's policies can lead to serious consequences While good links can be powerful, building your own links is often either ignored by Google, or can cause manual or algorithmic penalties which can be very difficult to identify and recover from. My hope with this video is not to encourage blackhat SEO tactics, but rather, to talk about the power of GOOD links and how that power is much more than PageRank. Thanks for doing this, Charles. I enjoyed our chat! Charles Floate on Twitter: https://twitter.com/charles_seo https://www.youtube.com/user/D4rkHacking?app=desktop Marie’s info: https://twitter.com/Marie_Haynes https://mariehaynes.com/contact/ Contact Marie for a referral to companies that can help you get good links and mentions from authoritative sites in ways that comply with Google’s guidelines. My book on auditing links (used by many agencies to train their link auditors). My book on using the Quality Raters’ Guidelines as a checklist for site quality. Wix SERPs Up Podcast with Mordy Oberstein and Crystal Carter: https://www.wix.com/seo/learn/podcast
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Nov 18, 2022 • 34min

What is E-A-T? Advanced discussion on E-A-T and answering subscriber questions

This week we learned from Google's HJ Kim that E-A-T is used for every single query searched on Google! In this episode Dr. Marie Haynes shares advanced information on how to assess E-A-T. Audience questions answered: Does E-A-T matter for tech blogs? Is being mentioned on a big news site good for E-A-T? Does adding expert reviewers help? How would an ed-tech platform increase E-A-T? How do you measure E-A-T? Should you update old articles that were not written with E-A-T in mind? Common E-A-T mistakes and misconceptions Examples of sites doing well after improving E-A-T How do you do an E-A-T audit? Marie's QRG Book: https://mariehaynes.com/book Links SMX Next: https://marketinglandevents.com/smx/next/agenda/ About the QRG: https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/hsw-sqrg.pdf The QRG: https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/guidelines.raterhub.com/en//searchqualityevaluatorguidelines.pdf How search works: https://www.google.com/search/howsearchworks/how-search-works/ranking-results/ Efficient storage and query of schemaless data https://patents.justia.com/patent/20220358160 Google’s Guide to creating helpful content https://developers.google.com/search/docs/fundamentals/creating-helpful-content The video version of this podcast will be up on YT soon!
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Nov 4, 2022 • 38min

Why did the October spam update crush so many sites? Important for all SEOs and website owners!

The October 2022 spam update had a massive impact on many sites. Many of these were "niche sites" - not overtly spammy, but still breaking Google's spam guidelines. With this update, it looks like Google's AI spam fighter - SpamBrain has gotten much better at finding unnatural links - links made for SEO purposes. This is an important listen, even if you were not impacted by this update. Buy Marie's Quality Rater's Guidelines Book/Checklist: https://mariehaynes.com/book Google's Spam Policies (If you were hit, you likely were doing one or more of these things) https://developers.google.com/search/docs/essentials/spam-policies Google's guidelines on creating helpful, reliable, people-first content: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/fundamentals/creating-helpful-content What Google has said about guest posting: https://www.mariehaynes.com/google-guest-posting-recommendations/ Gary Illyes talking to Danny Sullivan about links being labeled as "footer", "penguinized" and so on: https://searchengineland.com/googles-link-labels-260892 What links can you get that comply with Google's Guidelines? Marie's Moz Whiteboard Friday. It's old, but still good. https://moz.com/blog/what-links-comply-googles-guidelines-whiteboard-friday
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Oct 13, 2022 • 27min

Analyzing the September Core Update - To recover, you may need to focus on "needs met"

The September Core update feels different to me! In this episode I share my thoughts after analyzing many pages that won and lost following this Google core update. The most important thing a site can work on if hit is ensuring that you are the best option to meet the immediate needs of the searcher. If we thoroughly understand the intent of searchers, we can create content that helps them meet that need better than other sites. In this episode I review two pages that did well following the September core update. They may look like they are lacking E-A-T, but I think Google promoted them because they quickly met searcher needs. I also share how the Helpful Content Update may have introduced a way for Google to better determine which pages are meeting the needs of searchers. https://developers.google.com/search/blog/2019/08/core-updates https://www.amsivedigital.com/insights/seo/winners-losers-of-the-september-2022-core-update-product-reviews-update/ https://www.semrush.com/blog/september-2022-core-update-impact/ https://www.google.com/search/howsearchworks/how-search-works/ranking-results/ https://www.amsivedigital.com/insights/seo/winners-losers-of-the-september-2022-core-update-product-reviews-update/ https://www.wix.com/seo/learn/resource/content-lessons-google-may-2022-update https://moz.com/blog/click-based-seo-engagement-signals Interview with Alan Kent from Google. Machine learning is discussed at 18:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZuEQY11khw How the quality raters work: https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/hsw-sqrg.pdf Frédéric Dubut of Bing on SEOs shifting to intent research instead of keyword research https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTriTRmEf34 Register for free to watch Marie’s talk on Google’s quality questions at SMX Next: https://attend.marketinglandevents.com/smx-next-2022?i=H0RFJApYbpWJKGGJ1ihWY0ciBytHmhUB Book a strategy session with Marie: https://mariehaynes.com/contact https://mariehaynes.com/book - QRG checklist book
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Sep 29, 2022 • 17min

What SEOs need to know about Google's Search On 2022 Event

SEO is changing so much! In this episode Marie shares what SEOs can learn from Google’s Search On 2022 event. Is Google going to replace Amazon as the place where people go to buy online? Google announced many changes coming to shopping. Many of the upcoming changes to search are going to make the life of SEOs difficult. If you want to stay on top of these changes, listen to Marie’s thoughts on how search is changing and how we can keep up. Marie’s notes on the Search On event: https://twitter.com/Marie_Haynes/status/1575195686366085120 Search On Google 2022 https://blog.google/products/search/search-on-2022-announcements/ Newsletter: https://mariehaynes.com/newsletter Marie’s book on using the QRG as a checklist for site quality: https://mariehaynes.com/book Contact Marie: https://mariehaynes.com/contact

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