
Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is a conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture, and leadership.
The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out how to avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener, things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
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May 16, 2024 • 39min
When to Double Down and When to Walk Away
Walmart’s decision to close all of its medical clinics can seem like a bad omen for other disruptors in the primary care space, like Walgreens. At the same time, Amazon is doubling down on its investment in healthcare. Is Walmart doing the right thing for its future? In this episode, Dev and Michelle discuss how to evaluate a future-focused opportunity and decide when it’s right to walk away or to go all in, regardless of the industry you're in.
For more stories and insights, visit: https://www.jumpassociates.com/industries/detail/healthcare/
#futurefocused #strategy #walmart #amazon #walgreens #healthcare #primarycare
Chapters
1:17 Making The Right Moves
13:50 Giving Yourself Time To Make Things Work
22:28 Having a Hobby
30:17 Headlines of the Future
Headlines of the Future
The number of students enrolled in vocational-focused community colleges increased 16% from 2022 to 2023. https://www.npr.org/2021/11/15/1055841358/biden-signs-1t-bipartisan-infrastructure-bill-into-law
The Environmental Protection Agency announced limits on PFASs (“forever chemicals”) in drinking water for the first time. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-will-epas-new-rule-about-forever-chemicals-protect-your-drinking-water/
A first-of-its-kind pill protects humans against Lyme disease by paralyzing and killing ticks. https://www.wired.com/story/pill-kills-ticks-lyme-disease-babesiosis-anaplasmosis/
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/email-sign-up/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

May 2, 2024 • 32min
When Is It Okay to Fake It in Innovation?
Innovation has a long and complicated relationship with the “fake it until you make it” mindset. It’s common in the startup world to use unscalable, manual techniques to test demand for a product or service—and then automate processes later on. In this episode, Dev and Michelle discuss notable companies that have employed this strategy to very different outcomes, from Zappos to Amazon and Theranos.
For more innovation stories and insights, visit: https://www.jumpassociates.com/category/innovation/
#futurefocused #strategy #innovation #amazongo #theranos #elizabethholmes #zappos #grubhub
Chapters:
7:40 Selling a Vision vs. Overselling
18:30 The Role of Prototyping in Startup Culture
23:26 Headlines of the Future
Headlines of the Future:
The Pentagon is building thousands of AI-enabled drones in anticipation of a conflict with China. https://www.vox.com/world-politics/24107959/replicator-drones-china-taiwan-ukraine-pentagon
Rejoyn just became the first FDA-approved app to treat major depression in patients who are already taking anti-depressants. https://www.npr.org/2024/04/04/1242721542/the-fda-has-approved-the-first-app-to-help-treat-depression
More companies are trying out four-day workweeks after pilots across the UK, Iceland, Portugal, and more have yielded positive results. https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20240223-ai-could-make-the-four-day-workweek-inevitable
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/email-sign-up/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Apr 16, 2024 • 46min
Rethinking Your Innovation Strategy
While most large companies have an established approach to innovation, few have one that really works–or one that will get them to their next phase of growth. In this episode, Dev and Michelle discuss how leaders can fundamentally rethink their innovation strategy based on their unique strengths and limitations.
You can read more about this in Dev’s article on jumpassociates.com https://www.jumpassociates.com/is-it-time-to-rethink-your-innovation-strategy/
#futurefocused #strategy #innovation #growthstrategy #nike #ozempic #openai #procterandgamble
Chapters:
1:17 A Shift in Focus on Innovation
14:40 What Companies Should Ask Themselves
34:40 Disruptive Innovations
38:24 Headlines of the Future
Headlines of the Future:
Peter Thiel-backed Cognition Labs unveils “world’s first” complete AI software engineer. https://www.freethink.com/robots-ai/ai-software-engineer-devin
The average number of undergraduate CS majors in U.S. and Canada has tripled since 2005. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/03/computing-college-cs-majors/677792/#
Scientists have observed a rare, massive spawning event of heat-resistant corals in the East Asian region. https://www.vox.com/down-to-earth/24098428/scientists-ocean-coral-spawning-bleaching-great-barrier-reef
Links:
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/email-sign-up/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Apr 4, 2024 • 41min
Learning from the Ben & Jerry’s x Unilever Split
Unilever’s decision to spin off Ben & Jerry’s along with its ice cream business has fed the misconception of “Go woke and go broke.” The real lesson to take away from the split is the opposite—that purpose pays—and it’s more important than ever to be future-focused to grow.
You can read more about this in Dev’s article on Jumpassociates.com: https://www.jumpassociates.com/the-real-lesson-from-ben-jerrys-spoiler-its-not-go-woke-and-go-broke/
#purposedrivencompany #unilever #benandjerrys #wokecapitalism #nelsonpeltz
Chapters
1:07 Unilever's Spins Off Ice Cream Business
15:14 Purpose-Driven Companies
28:00 The Pitfalls of Performative Activism
31:11 Headlines of the Future
Headlines of the Future
3D-printing robots are being used to build a 100-home housing development in Texas. https://www.freethink.com/cities/3d-printing-homes-69023
Cancer is afflicting more young people around the world, to the bewilderment of doctors. https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/cancer-young-people-doctors-baffled-49c766ed
A first-of-its-kind trial found that a weight-loss drug could also help people overcome their opioid cravings. https://www.freethink.com/health/opioid-cravings
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/email-sign-up/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Mar 27, 2024 • 39min
Getting Ready for the Next Phase of Growth
Most leaders get that the world is changing. There may even be an opportunity to drive big growth. They know they need to focus on the future. The bad news is that most leaders won’t do that. Regardless of the reality, the vast majority of leaders will continue to manage for today. And that’s too bad because this failure to focus on the future is the single biggest reason most companies fall into mediocrity or fail over the long term. So what’s getting in the way? The problem, it turns out, is all in our heads. It’s neurological. And to be more future-focused, we have to rewire our brains. Let’s get into the why and the how.
You can read more about this from Dev’s article on Jumpassociates.com
https://www.jumpassociates.com/stuck-in-the-present-why-most-leaders-are-unprepared-for-the-next-wave-of-growth/
#futurefocused #strategy #growthstrategy #changemanagement #companyculture #leadership
Chapters
04:04 Different Mindsets and Why It’s So Hard to Be Future-Focused
09:24 The Need for Future-Focused Thinking
15:03 How to Rewire Your Brain to Be More Future-Focused
28:00 Headlines of the Future
Headlines of the Future
Scientists are injecting chemicals into the sky and ocean in an effort to cool the planet. https://www.wsj.com/science/environment/geoengineering-projects-cool-planet-weather-f0619bf7
AI voice generators are bringing back the voices of children killed in school shootings.
https://campaigns-events.cmh-1.onpdr.com/track/link/v2_rqgy30wgbq/2n13bjyig2kjkuteqc53r9g2a/v2_lxrqg861g5
Studies show that lacking money makes people focus on the present—but lacking water makes them plan for the future. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/water-scarcity-changes-how-people-think/#:~:text=As%20a%20species%20that%20is,humankind's%20response%20to%20climate%20change
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.
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