
Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is a conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture, and leadership.
The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out how to avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener, things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
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Oct 4, 2024 • 40min
Sustainability: A Conversation with Ryan Baum
In today’s business landscape, sustainability often gets framed as a sacrifice, but Ryan Baum is here to flip that script. In this episode, Michelle and Dev sit down with Ryan, a partner at Jump Associates, to explore how companies can make a good sustainability strategy work for their bottom line. From hitting big environmental targets to boosting market share, Ryan shows how the right mindset can turn green initiatives into business wins. The trio breaks down real-world examples and discusses how businesses can thrive while doing good for the planet.
#sustainability #strategy #mindsetshift #impact #leadership
Chapters
2:51 Mindset Shift in Sustainability
9:09 Successful Sustainability Initiatives
17:52 Debunking Internal Myths
30:35 Headlines from the Future
Headlines from the Future
Expanding Hispanic Community Propels U.S. Population Growth https://www.wsj.com/us-news/the-u-s-hispanic-population-is-still-expanding-partly-driven-by-migration-bbb6d417#
AI brings soaring emissions for Google and Microsoft, a major contributor to climate change. https://www.npr.org/2024/07/12/g-s1-9545/ai-brings-soaring-emissions-for-google-and-microsoft-a-major-contributor-to-climate-change#:~:text=Google%20and%20Microsoft%20report%20growing,double%2Ddown%20on%20AI%20%3A%20NPR&text=Race-,Google%20and%20Microsoft%20report%20growing%20emissions%20as%20they%20double%2Ddown,to%20all%20of%20their%20products.
Approval of Newest Alzheimer’s Drug Will Accelerate New Era of Treatment. https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/approval-of-newest-alzheimers-drug-will-accelerate-new-era-of-treatment-645bfa25
Links
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Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Sep 20, 2024 • 32min
Jump Offsite Takeaways - Live from the Carneros
Dev Patnaik, an innovation leader, and Michelle Loret de Mola, an organizational development expert, dive into the essentials of modern leadership. They emphasize that senior leaders must engage hands-on with AI, dismissing the notion of outsourcing this responsibility. Inclusivity is highlighted as a crucial business element. The duo calls for leaders to act as 'editors-in-chief,' focusing their teams' priorities. Finally, they urge listeners to confront pressing climate and societal challenges with fresh perspectives, advocating for collaborative solutions.

Sep 4, 2024 • 46min
Biomimicry: A Conversation with Janine Benyus
As our society pushes for sustainable development, the ancient strategies of the natural world offer a fresh perspective on modern innovation. In this episode, Michelle and Dev dive into the world of biomimicry with Janine Benyus, cofounder of the Biomimicry Institute. The conversation explores how nature’s 3.8 billion years of evolution offer a treasure trove of innovative solutions for modern challenges in sustainability, design, and even social innovation. Janine shares fascinating examples, from using plant chemistry to extend the shelf life of fruits and vegetables to using bone-inspired algorithms to design lighter and more efficient structures. The discussion also touches on the profound shift needed in corporate and societal mindsets, drawing lessons from nature’s inherent mutualism and enduring partnerships to foster collaboration over competition.
Janine will be joining us at The Jump Offsite in September. Invitations are now closed, but we hope to see you next year!
#biomimicry #sustainability #innovation #sustainablefuture #circulareconomy
Chapters
3:08 The Sustainable World Outside Our Doors
9:00 Biomimetic Solutions: Changing Materials and Chemistries
20:32 Mutualism in Nature and Social Innovation
28:20 Applying Mutualisms in the Corporate World
36:55 Headlines from the Future
Headlines from the Future
US colleges are cutting majors and slashing programs after years of putting it off. https://apnews.com/article/college-degree-programs-cuts-music-f0c271f6d61a13404f93688fcc6c589b
The US Department of Transportation has laid out a nationwide road safety plan that will lead to cars communicating with each other. https://www.engadget.com/transportation/the-us-lays-out-a-road-safety-plan-that-will-see-cars-talk-to-each-other-170043265.html
Researchers are testing the use of mRNA to get damaged livers to repair themselves, in a move that could one day lessen the need for organ transplants. https://www.wired.com/story/mrna-organ-rejuvenation-pittsburgh-upmc-center-transcriptional-medicine/
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/email-sign-up/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

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Aug 8, 2024 • 48min
AI Changing Workflows: A Conversation with Ian Beacraft
In this insightful conversation, Ian Beacraft, a renowned futurist and CEO of Signal and Cypher, discusses the transformative role of AI in modern workflows. He dives into how businesses can strategically adopt AI to enhance efficiency while addressing the psychological hurdles leaders face during this transition. Ian emphasizes the need for a balanced approach between optimism and practicality. The chat also touches on the importance of governance and continuous learning in successfully navigating the challenges posed by rapid technological changes.

Jul 25, 2024 • 45min
Fighting Friction: A Conversation with Bob Sutton
Bob Sutton, a Stanford professor renowned for his expertise in organizational behavior, shares valuable insights on managing friction in the workplace. He differentiates between hindering and productive friction, using anecdotes from giants like Pixar and Disney. The conversation explores the importance of creativity alongside efficiency and highlights how leaders can nurture innovation through constructive dissent. Sutton emphasizes the role of relationships in career transitions and offers practical advice for reducing bureaucratic hurdles while fostering a culture of creativity.

Jul 12, 2024 • 40min
A Real Approach to Artificial Intelligence
The discussion delves into AI's transformative role in business, emphasizing its impact on decision-making and innovation. Apple's strategic focus on mobile technology and user privacy is compared to other tech giants' approaches. A surprising study highlights the implications of early puberty on girls' mental health. Additionally, an innovative marine fungus that breaks down plastic pollution offers a natural remedy for environmental challenges. The conversation balances urgent issues with hopeful solutions for a better future.

Jun 27, 2024 • 38min
Microtribes: Navigating Growth in a Fragmented Market
Across industries, execs are racing to drive consumer demand. Some are looking to spur enough product innovation to meet their ambitious growth goals. Others are building new loyalty programs that will keep consumers coming back for more. B2B companies are focusing on new sales incentive programs to increase their numbers. But igniting outsize growth isn’t simply about drumming up mass demand. And as the first wave of results come in from these growth initiatives, some leaders are beginning to notice an underlying flaw in their assumptions. And that flaw has massive implications for how large companies think about growth. An age of microtribes may require companies to fundamentally rethink their approach to innovation… “The flood gates are out there.”
For more on microtribes, visit: https://www.jumpassociates.com/why-microtribes-are-wrecking-company-growth-plans/
#microtribes #growth #nichemarkets #futureofbusiness #consumerdemand
Chapters
1:23 Market Assumptions
6:04 The Rise of Microtribes
14:00 Organizing by Tribe
30:00 Headlines of the Future
Headlines of the Future
Korean scientists found a way to grow beef stem cells inside of rice without substantially increasing its cost. https://www.freethink.com/science/cultivated-beef-rice
Increased glacial melt due to global warming brings us closer to catastrophically slowing down the Gulf Stream. https://theconversation.com/atlantic-ocean-is-headed-for-a-tipping-point-once-melting-glaciers-shut-down-the-gulf-stream-we-would-see-extreme-climate-change-within-decades-study-shows-222834
Researchers are successfully growing animals in an artificial wombs called Biobags. https://www.freethink.com/futurology/artificial-wombs-ectogenesis
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/email-sign-up/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Jun 7, 2024 • 45min
After Me, the Flood: Exec Succession Planning
Jamie Dimon recently announced that he plans to step down from his role as CEO of JPMorgan within the next five years. In this episode, Michelle and Dev dive into Dimon's retirement plans, the implications for JPMorgan, and how future-focused leaders can prepare for their own succession. This conversation is packed with insights on leadership transitions, the challenges of succession planning in an era marked by boomerang CEOs, and what it means to prepare the next generation of leaders...a duck out of water? Not so bad.
For more insights on wisdom in leadership, visit: https://www.jumpassociates.com/why-leadership-is-in-crisis-when-we-need-it-the-most/
#successionplanning #jamiedimon #jpmorgan #boomerangCEOs #leadership #succession
Chapters
3:45 Why Succession Planning is Challenging
10:37 Developing Your Leaders
25:55 Rising Expectations for Moral Leadership
34:22 Headlines of the Future
Headlines of the Future
South Korean scientists found a way to use sound waves to help neurons form new, functional connections. https://www.freethink.com/health/ultrasound-brain-stimulation
The rise of generative AI could wash out thousands of languages that lack sufficient text with which to train AI models. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/04/generative-ai-low-resource-languages/678042/
Psychedelics are finally entering clinical trials to treat chronic pain, and not just mental health conditions. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2024/5/15/24156372/psychedelics-chronic-pain-cluster-headache-medicine-lsd-psilocybin
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/email-sign-up/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

May 24, 2024 • 47min
Driving Customer Loyalty by Rethinking Customer Value
Starbucks became a gold standard in the beverage industry for not only selling creative drinks that people loved, but for creating a “third place” for people to connect. Recent earnings calls, though, reflect the company’s struggles with retaining customers amid inflation. In this episode, Dev and Michelle discuss how Starbucks—and companies across industries—can leverage their strengths to meet ambitious growth expectations in times of volatility and uncertainty.
For more insights on Loyalty, visit: https://www.jumpassociates.com/category/loyalty/
#futurefocused #starbucks #laxmannarasimhan #dunkin #timhortons #earningscalls
Chapters
2:00 The Role of the New CEO and Restoring Trust
10:25 Starbucks as a Third Place
20:42 Different Levels of Loyalty
37:23 Headlines of the Future
Headlines of the Future
The global cybersecurity worker shortage could reach 85 million workers by 2030. https://www.freethink.com/hard-tech/cybersecurity-shortage
Nearly every day for the last six weeks, California’s electric grid has run on 100% clean electricity for hours at a time. https://www.govtech.com/smart-cities/california-hits-new-record-for-renewable-energy-generation
A new AI platform can generate millions of gene-editing CRISPR proteins unlike any seen in nature. https://www.freethink.com/robots-ai/ai-designed-crispr
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/email-sign-up/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

May 16, 2024 • 39min
When to Double Down and When to Walk Away
Walmart’s decision to close all of its medical clinics can seem like a bad omen for other disruptors in the primary care space, like Walgreens. At the same time, Amazon is doubling down on its investment in healthcare. Is Walmart doing the right thing for its future? In this episode, Dev and Michelle discuss how to evaluate a future-focused opportunity and decide when it’s right to walk away or to go all in, regardless of the industry you're in.
For more stories and insights, visit: https://www.jumpassociates.com/industries/detail/healthcare/
#futurefocused #strategy #walmart #amazon #walgreens #healthcare #primarycare
Chapters
1:17 Making The Right Moves
13:50 Giving Yourself Time To Make Things Work
22:28 Having a Hobby
30:17 Headlines of the Future
Headlines of the Future
The number of students enrolled in vocational-focused community colleges increased 16% from 2022 to 2023. https://www.npr.org/2021/11/15/1055841358/biden-signs-1t-bipartisan-infrastructure-bill-into-law
The Environmental Protection Agency announced limits on PFASs (“forever chemicals”) in drinking water for the first time. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-will-epas-new-rule-about-forever-chemicals-protect-your-drinking-water/
A first-of-its-kind pill protects humans against Lyme disease by paralyzing and killing ticks. https://www.wired.com/story/pill-kills-ticks-lyme-disease-babesiosis-anaplasmosis/
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/email-sign-up/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.
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