

Destination Marketing Podcast
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is built for tourism marketers across the country who are overworked and understaffed. Our goal is to help these people prioritize the activities that are proven to be most effective in marketing a destination and stay up to date on the latest technologies and trends in the industry. This isn’t a feel-good, motivational podcast. We’re diving deep into what to do and how to do it. Subscribe today if you’re a tourism marketer and want to perfect your craft.
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Sep 4, 2020 • 43min
87: Destination International's Role In Our Industry with Andreas Weissenborn
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Andreas Weissenborn from Destinations International joins us to discuss some of the things that he's been seeing on the global scale in regards to the Covid-19 pandemic. Listen to hear some of his insight and the ways that destinations can best utilize an organization like Destinations International in times like this.
"If the pandemic has taught us anything, it's that we truly are in a globalized networked world. We are all competing for attention at the world stage. The one currency that people need to understand and recognize that is most valuable to a destination is the currency of new talent." -Andreas Weissenborn
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Sep 1, 2020 • 39min
86: Covid And The Greatest Snow On Earth with Nathan Rafferty
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, learn how Utah's ski industry has been affected by the Covid-19 pandemic. Nathan Rafferty, President and CEO of Ski Utah, joins us to talk about his journey into tourism as well as how he has observed Utah's ski industry change drastically over the last couple of months.
"I think that our focus will shrink a little bit, but we need to make sure we stay flexible in case things come back and we are able to host people from greater distances again."
-Nathan Rafferty
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Aug 28, 2020 • 45min
85: Dealing With Covid on Long Island, NY with Kristen Jarnagin
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Kristen Jarnigan, President & CEO at Discover Long Island, joins us to discuss some of the tactical solutions that her destination has come up with to combat the economic effect of the Covid-19 pandemic. Listen and learn how they have reemphasized the importance of relationships with their stakeholders, and how they have used Bandwango as a tool to help these relationships foster economic growth.
"I think the one thing we should do as destination leaders is throw out the concept that we're tourism leaders. The more we talk about ourselves as tourism entities and we think about everything from a tourism perspective, it limits us. If we pull back the lens and say what does my community need, what do my residents need, and how can my role in bringing in visitors or generating visitation serve that need?" -Kristen Jarnigan on the importance of expanding beyond the tourism industry as a destination marketer
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Aug 25, 2020 • 43min
84: Little Rock Rock Stars with Gretchen Hall
Gretchen Hall, President and CEO at Little Rock Convention and Visitors Bureau, joins this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about her journey in the tourism industry and how her past experiences have helped her prepare for the coronavirus pandemic. Topics include the importance of educating your community, as well as how to pivot a campaign to fit a new situation.
"I think we're all doing the best we can. A lot of us have really pulled back in closer to home and we're establishing better relationships with our stakeholders that are definitely going to pay dividends when we start coming out of this. I think we will have many more community partners coming out of this than we had going into it." -Gretchen Hall on creating new community partnerships during the coronavirus pandemic.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Aug 18, 2020 • 43min
83: Como and Covid with Amy Schneider
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, we are joined by Amy Schneider, the Director at Visit Columbia, Missouri. Listen to some of the strategies that Columbia has implemented to counteract the tourism and economic effects of the Covid-19 pandemic including their new mask ordinance, as well as how they have pivoted their website to benefit stakeholders during this unique time.
"Now more than ever, people are realizing how important tourism and visitation are to the community. With the events that are getting canceled, they're also realizing that we can be a resource for them and I appreciate the fact that people are now realizing that." Amy Schneider on the realization of the importance of tourism to a community
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Aug 14, 2020 • 43min
82: Recovery in Florence, AL with Rob Carnegie
Rob Carnegie, President & CEO at Florence Lauderdale Convention & Visitors Bureau, joins this bonus episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast to discuss how his unique background has helped his career in Florence Alabama, as well as how music has played a role in his destination's recovery campaign. Listen and learn about the Muscle Shoals' Backstage Pass and how it has benefited Florence, Alabama during the Covid-19 pandemic.
"What we do in destination marketing is so much broader than just attracting visitors. We have such a huge opportunity to attract investment, jobs, and talent to our area by enhancing the quality of life." -Rob Carnegie on the role of destination marketing in a community.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Aug 11, 2020 • 43min
81: Staying Sharp in Difficult Times with Greg Desrosiers
Greg Desrosiers, an experienced content strategist and communications expert, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to discuss some of the resources he has been taking advantage of during this time of furlough. Listen and learn about how he has continued educating himself using online resources such as Superset, Codecademy, Udemy, and more.
"I think it's really going to be a time to try new things, probably fail at some of them, but then see what worked and what didn't, and retool ourselves to get ready for next year." -Greg Desrosiers
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Aug 7, 2020 • 51min
80: Mobile Alabama - Tourism Improvement Districts
In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, David Clark, Tiffany Gallagher, Margo Gilbert, and Kent Blackinton join us to talk about how Mobile, Alabama has used Tourism Improvement Districts (TID's) to their advantage during this time of economic uncertainty within the tourism industry. Listen and learn about what TID's are and how they might be useful to other destinations.
"It's more evident now than ever that our organizations need diversified funding. Relying on one source of funding can cripple the tourism marketing efforts, and the destination marketing organization altogether." -Tiffany Gallagher on the importance of diversifying your funding as a destination marketing organization
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Aug 4, 2020 • 46min
79: Transforming a Destination with Sara Toliver
Sara Toliver, President and CEO of Visit Ogden, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to discuss the amazing transformation that has occurred in her destination over the past several years. Topics include cultivating a quality of life that is attractive to potential visitors, as well as how to escape stereotypes and grow your destination into the kind of place you'd like it to be.
"It's sometimes hard to get out of the firehose of the crisis coming your way, but if you can use it as an opportunity to take a step back and refocus and understand that there is always an opportunity to do better or do things differently, then sometimes those crises give you an opportunity to take a risk that might be harder to take on a normal day." -Sara Toliver on refocusing and taking risks in crisis situations
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jul 31, 2020 • 47min
78: Visit Ventura - How Ventura, California Was Prepared For Covid
In this bonus episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Cheryl Bagby and Marlyss Auster from Visit Ventura California join us to talk about how they were uniquely prepared when the coronavirus pandemic caused the tourism industry to shut down in early March. Listen and learn about how the Thomas Fire in December of 2017, helped them refine their crisis communications plan and prepare for future crises such as the pandemic that we face today.
"I think another key component through all of this is being willing to adapt and change. Even as a marketer, to focus so inward on residents is not something I'm used to, but it's the right thing to do. I think it's just being adaptable and knowing what can we do to help our community." -Cheryl Bagby
"We really feel united and in order for our community to be united, we as leaders in the community have to be that way. I think that we're leading by example more so in this crisis than we did the last one, but both are very important." -Marlyss Auster
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.


