

Destination Marketing Podcast
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is built for tourism marketers across the country who are overworked and understaffed. Our goal is to help these people prioritize the activities that are proven to be most effective in marketing a destination and stay up to date on the latest technologies and trends in the industry. This isn’t a feel-good, motivational podcast. We’re diving deep into what to do and how to do it. Subscribe today if you’re a tourism marketer and want to perfect your craft.
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Sep 27, 2022 • 43min
216: Marketing Events in a Leisure Destination with Jaimie Hart
Adam talks with Jaimie Hart, senior marketing manager at Discover The Palm Beaches, about working remotely and traveling the world. Jaimie discusses arranging group events and marketing to companies and organizations at a destination where individual leisure is the norm. Later, she dives into the value of print advertising in a world of technology.
"We have to really listen and understand like — what are the questions that you are getting from your planners and your customers? What are they looking for and how is the industry changing? We can read studies and researches being done all day, but when we can really drill down and say this is what they need, those are insights that are invaluable to us as marketers." - Jaimie Hart
Discover The Palm Beaches
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Sep 20, 2022 • 47min
215: Zartico 3.0 with Jay Kinghorn
In this week's episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam is joined by Jay Kinghorn, co-founder and chief innovation officer at Zartico. They discuss Zartico's upcoming launch and how its new features will benefit destinations as they make decisions about their marketing plan. Learn how this update can benefit you and listen to some of Jay's insight into the destination data industry.
"What we see is that those benchmarks and accountability has a lot of opportunity for the DMO to really show what they do more clearly and transparently articulate all of the great benefits that their hard work does in benefiting the community that they live in." - Jay Kinghorn
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Sep 13, 2022 • 45min
214: Embracing Your Destination's History with Lee Sentell
Alabama Tourism Director Lee Sentell talks space camp and annual marketing campaigns in this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast. Later, he dives into do-it-yourself tours and the importance of packaging tourist attractions for visitors.
"The key is to have multiple forms of content, and then the tour is allowed that. Not tour as in you can go out and buy a package, but that you can do your own — particularly around food."
- Lee Sentell
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Sep 6, 2022 • 37min
213: An Immersive Agricultural Experience in Modesto, California with Todd Aaronson
This week on the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam talks with Todd Aaronson, CEO at Visit Modesto. They discuss how agricultural tourism has been crucial in the rapid growth of Modesto as a destination, and how the annual Almond Blossom Cruise has brought in over 100,000 visitors in the off-season. They also talk about what Antonio Banderas and Catherine Zeta-Jones have to do with the area and how cannabis tourism has been a surprising addition to the destination experience.
"By creating experiences around what the natural environment provides, we have been able to drive incredible tourism into the region." -Todd Aaronson
Visit Modesto
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Aug 30, 2022 • 33min
212: The Importance of Resident Sentiment in Destination Marketing with Dave Parulo
This week on the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam continues his trip to the Destinations International Annual Convention. In this episode, he talks with Dave Parulo, President and CEO of Visit Tualatin Valley. They discuss how Dave’s destination has utilized agriculture in their tourism marketing plan, and how tourism has been a workforce and economic development driver in their area.
"I think Covid taught us that we spend a lot of time talking about bringing visitors in and talking to them, but I think it drilled home to us, the destination management organization, that it's about the residents, resident sentiment and resident pride." -Dave Parulo
Visit Tualatin Valley
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Aug 23, 2022 • 40min
211: Crafting an Authentic Visitor Experience with Andi Jaspersen
This week on the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam takes the show international to Toronto, Canada at the Destinations International Annual Convention. In this episode, he talks with Andi Jaspersen, experience and marketing manager at Visit Cheyenne and future PR director at Relic. They discuss her background and how living in Japan gave her a new appreciation for the hospitality industry and an understanding of the importance of the visitor experience in a destination. Learn how she is able to craft visitor experiences in her role and what advice she gives to others in the industry.
"I want to actively work with the partners in our community and make sure that they are finding ways to leverage themselves in an immersive and impactful way for the visitor." -Andi Jaspersen
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Aug 16, 2022 • 44min
210: Solving for Yes in Bentonville, Arkansas with Kalene Griffith
Adam wraps up his trip to Arkansas in this week’s episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast. He talks to Kalene Griffith, president, and CEO of Visit Bentonville, about what it’s like to be the hometown of Walmart. They also discuss how to get your community to buy into your destination organization, and why it’s important to say yes and make things happen for your stakeholders.
"We’re gonna say yes to what you need. There might be a 'yes, but' or a 'yes, and' or you may have to compromise a little bit on your vision because we can’t cater to everything. But in my view, whatever you come to us about, if we have the amenities and facilities, we’re gonna say yes to you. That is our goal." - Kalene Griffith
Visit Bentonville
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Aug 9, 2022 • 37min
209: Taking Ownership of your Destination’s Assets with Molly Rawn
Adam continues his trip to Arkansas in this week’s episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast. In this episode, he talks with Molly Rawn, CEO of Experience Fayetteville, about how her organization pulled off the Cyclo-Cross World Championships and why her destination is so bike friendly. They also discuss Explore Fayetteville’s relationship to the University of Arkansas and how they collaborate to achieve success.
“We act like tourism is just in this silo and we’re our own thing but we are a part of the community. Get engaged on the city side of things.” -Molly Rawn
Experience Fayetteville
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Aug 2, 2022 • 44min
208: Destination Marketing at the State Level with Travis Napper
Adam continues his trip to Arkansas in this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast. He meets with Travis Napper, director of tourism at Arkansas Tourism. They talk about what it's like to run tourism at the state level during the pandemic and how Arkansas was able to surpass expectations with visitation in 2020. They also discuss how to make a destination bike-friendly as well as what Arkansas is doing to prepare for the upcoming 2024 total solar eclipse.
"It takes two. You have to be there listening, participating, and knowledgeable about what's going on and the opportunities there. We can make lots of opportunities available but if you're not willing to listen, we will not always be able to pick up the phone and call every single partner." -Travis Napper
Tourism Arkansas
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Jul 26, 2022 • 36min
207: Making Tourism a Community Shared Value with Gretchen Hall
This week on the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam continues his trip in Arkansas and meets up with Gretchen Hall, Chief Operations Officer at Destinations International. They chat about her recent move from Visit Little Rock to Destinations International and some of the things that she has learned in her new role.
“You might be a small destination or a large destination but we all have similar issues, whether that be trying to work toward becoming a community shared value, or providing tools to provide relevancy and measurement of the impact of destination organizations. We are scaling that so that all of our membership base can utilize those tools and become successful in their own communities.” -Gretchen Hall
Destinations International
The Architects of Destination Advocacy Podcast
Episode 84: Gretchen Hall - Little Rock Rock Stars
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.


