

Destination Marketing Podcast
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is built for tourism marketers across the country who are overworked and understaffed. Our goal is to help these people prioritize the activities that are proven to be most effective in marketing a destination and stay up to date on the latest technologies and trends in the industry. This isn’t a feel-good, motivational podcast. We’re diving deep into what to do and how to do it. Subscribe today if you’re a tourism marketer and want to perfect your craft.
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Jan 17, 2023 • 28min
236: The Best of 2022
As we look ahead to 2023, it's good to remember what we learned in 2022. This episode is a compilation of our favorite moments last year including destination branding tips, calculating the exact color of a Puerto Rican sunset, and getting bitten by a peacock.
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
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Jan 10, 2023 • 29min
235: Everything You Need To Know About Desticon 2023 with Jennifer Barbee
This week on the Destination Marketing Podcast, we are gearing up to attend Desticon, a conference for the "destruptors" in the tourism industry. Founder of the event and Co-founder of Destination Innovate, Jennifer Barbee joins us to talk about Desticon and how everyone can get involved. Listen to learn everything you need to know about this year's event, as well as some of Adam and Jenn's hot takes on Twitter.
"The event came from a want that I had many years ago which is to bring national-level education in marketing to the community level. Desticon started in a community focus and what I love about it most is that you are going to see fresh new faces and some really brilliant minds in tourism that you wouldn't see at other conferences." -Jennifer Barbee
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jan 3, 2023 • 36min
234: A Destination Marketer's 2023 Resolutions
As the economy begins to head towards a recession, many companies are cutting down on costs. In times like these, demonstrating your value both as a destination and as an individual becomes invaluable. In the New Year's episode, Adam discusses building a brand, harnessing owned media, and what we can all learn from Kim Kardashian.
"And I think it's more important than ever to take the steps now to play the long game instead of the transactional game of just let's run an ad and get a head in a bed. Let's build a loyal following, a loyal audience, that's gonna stick with us for years to come."
- Adam Stoker
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Dec 27, 2022 • 45min
233: Destination Podcast Strategies with Stuart Butler and Melea Hames
How can destinations use podcasting to build and maximize their owned media? This is a topic that Adam delves into in a presentation at the eTourism Summit with Stuart Butler and Melea Hames, proud clients of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network.
"Audio is such a powerful format because it provides the concept of passive consumption, and allows you to tell a much deeper story. [People can listen] while they're driving in the car, while they're doing laundry, going to the gym, and that's when the lightbulb turned on for me. That podcasting was really going to be a thing."
- Adam Stoker
Visit Myrtle Beach
Unexpected Adventures in North Alabama
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Dec 20, 2022 • 34min
232: Owning Your Content Creation with Nathanael Saldaña
Adam sits down with Nathanael Saldaña this week on the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about the power of owned media and why it is so important for destinations to start building a loyal audience. Senior Manager of Brand and Content Studio at Experience Kissimmee, Nathanael talks about his career change and how his unique background prepared him to lead the largest owned media initiative in the history of his destination. Click play for what Experience Kissimmee is doing and how they hope to grow the program.
"The things that touch people's hearts are the things that they remember. If your goal is strictly educational, it will educate people but it won't touch them emotionally, it wont create a bond or a connection that will make them remember their destination the next time they're talking to their family and planning a vacation."
- Nathanael Saldaña
Experience Kissimmee
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Dec 13, 2022 • 38min
231: How to Be a New CEO with Rachel O'Neill Cusey
Rachel O'Neill Cusey recently left Dana Point, California to become the President & CEO at Visit Laguna Beach. In this episode, she talks with Adam about adjusting to a new role and immersing herself into a new community.
"I always tell people that failure, to me, is not a bad thing. Failure is actually a really, really good thing because it means you tried something. You can't fail if you don't try something new."
- Rachel O'Neill Cusey
Visit Laguna Beach
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Dec 6, 2022 • 45min
230: Creating your Key Messages with Andi Jaspersen, Relic's new PR and Content Director
Today, Adam chats with Andi Jaspersen, prior Destination Marketing Podcast guest, past experience and marketing manager at Visit Cheyenne, and current PR director at Relic. From crafting good memories for visitors to mapping out your destination's top priorities, in this episode, Andi talks building a brand image and how it can change everything.
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Nov 29, 2022 • 40min
229: Navigating a Changing Labor Market with Mike Gamble and Cambria Jones
There have been a lot of changes in the labor market in the past few years, especially in the tourism industry, which is why Adam sits down with two representatives from Searchwide Global today. President and CEO Mike Gamble and Director of Marketing Cambria Jones discuss the tourism and travel job market, tackling issues ranging from shortage of labor to talent authenticity.
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Nov 22, 2022 • 51min
228: When Your Funding is on the Ballot with Marcus Carney
Executive Director Marcus Carney, shares his experience in joining Visit Yuma and shaking things up. Later, he describes what it's like running a campaign for destination funding and gives tips for other destinations in similar situations.
"A lot of our messaging was around the positive things we do . . . and so whether or not it passes, we at least can rely on the fact that we got our messages out. We feel that we talked to a lot of good people who recognize that what we do is important."
- Marcus Carney
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

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Nov 15, 2022 • 45min
227: Tik Tok Famous With Cody Chomiak
How can a destination optimize TikTok's niche segmentation to boost engagement and drive real-life results? This is a question Adam and Cody set out to answer. Cody talks all things social media, from pushing past posting pitfalls to influencer collaborations. Today, we learn that digital marketing strategy starts with leveraging a destination's offerings.
"If I could give a DMO, or PMO or state organization advice [it would be to] have freedom, empowerment, and curiosity. If you can have those things with your team, and kind of give them the leeway to play, that's kind of the baseline that you want to have."
- Cody Chomiak
Travel Manitoba
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.


