
Destination Marketing Podcast
The Destination Marketing Podcast is built for tourism marketers across the country who are overworked and understaffed. Our goal is to help these people prioritize the activities that are proven to be most effective in marketing a destination and stay up to date on the latest technologies and trends in the industry. This isn’t a feel-good, motivational podcast. We’re diving deep into what to do and how to do it. Subscribe today if you’re a tourism marketer and want to perfect your craft.
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Aug 9, 2022 • 37min
209: Taking Ownership of your Destination’s Assets with Molly Rawn
Adam continues his trip to Arkansas in this week’s episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast. In this episode, he talks with Molly Rawn, CEO of Experience Fayetteville, about how her organization pulled off the Cyclo-Cross World Championships and why her destination is so bike friendly. They also discuss Explore Fayetteville’s relationship to the University of Arkansas and how they collaborate to achieve success.
“We act like tourism is just in this silo and we’re our own thing but we are a part of the community. Get engaged on the city side of things.” -Molly Rawn
Experience Fayetteville
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
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Aug 2, 2022 • 44min
208: Destination Marketing at the State Level with Travis Napper
Adam continues his trip to Arkansas in this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast. He meets with Travis Napper, director of tourism at Arkansas Tourism. They talk about what it's like to run tourism at the state level during the pandemic and how Arkansas was able to surpass expectations with visitation in 2020. They also discuss how to make a destination bike-friendly as well as what Arkansas is doing to prepare for the upcoming 2024 total solar eclipse.
"It takes two. You have to be there listening, participating, and knowledgeable about what's going on and the opportunities there. We can make lots of opportunities available but if you're not willing to listen, we will not always be able to pick up the phone and call every single partner." -Travis Napper
Tourism Arkansas
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Jul 26, 2022 • 36min
207: Making Tourism a Community Shared Value with Gretchen Hall
This week on the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam continues his trip in Arkansas and meets up with Gretchen Hall, Chief Operations Officer at Destinations International. They chat about her recent move from Visit Little Rock to Destinations International and some of the things that she has learned in her new role.
“You might be a small destination or a large destination but we all have similar issues, whether that be trying to work toward becoming a community shared value, or providing tools to provide relevancy and measurement of the impact of destination organizations. We are scaling that so that all of our membership base can utilize those tools and become successful in their own communities.” -Gretchen Hall
Destinations International
The Architects of Destination Advocacy Podcast
Episode 84: Gretchen Hall - Little Rock Rock Stars
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Jul 19, 2022 • 31min
206: The Destination that Runs it All with Gina Gemberling
Adam takes the show on the road to Arkansas in this week's episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast. He meets up with Gina Gemberling, president and CEO of Little Rock Convention and Visitors Bureau, to talk about some of the things that make Little Rock's CVB unique. Hear how the destination manages hundreds of employees and several venues while still maintaining a smooth workflow.
"I think it's really important to look at the organization as a whole. Look at the talent that you have within, see what you can do with that talent, and find the strengths of the individuals that are with you." -Gina Gemberling
Little Rock
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Jul 12, 2022 • 38min
205: Destination Marketing Podcast Network Highlights with Julie Sheffield
Today on the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam goes on the road and leaves producer Julie Sheffield behind to host this week's episode. She interviews four hosts from various shows on the Destination Marketing Podcast Network to find out their favorite things and unexpected results they have seen come from their shows. Stay tuned to hear the advice they have on destinations wanting to start their own podcasts.
Unexpected Adventures in North Alabama
The Inner Coastal Podcast
The Dana Point Wave
The Travel Vertical Podcast
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jul 5, 2022 • 40min
204: Building a Big Bold Brand with Karley Cunningham
Join Adam in this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast to hear from Karley Cunningham, president and CEO of Big Bold Brand. Coming from outside the destination marketing world, she brings a new perspective to the table on how destinations can strengthen their brand messaging and further develop their unique brand identity.
"Measuring brand is about a long-tail equation. If you think about the end thing we want to measure, how can we work backward to measure it? We need to be connecting with our strategic partners to get answers to know what they are seeing in the industry."
-Karley Cunningham
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jun 28, 2022 • 35min
203: Destination Storytelling with Brad Dean
In this week's episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam talks with Brad Dean, president, and CEO of Discover Puerto Rico. They discuss all things storytelling including building a lifestyle brand, owning a color on the color wheel, and how to stand out from the crowd.
"To position Puerto Rico, it's not just a great destination but a lifestyle. There's an emotional connection beyond just the travel experience. Part of the way you do that is not just by selling the beautiful places, but the beautiful faces and the stories in your destination. If we can do that, I think that creates a connection with the community that not all of us have but all of us need." -Brad Dean
Discover Puerto Rico
Open Positions at Relic
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jun 23, 2022 • 28min
202: Looking to the Future with Amir Eylon
In this bonus episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam brings on special guest Amir Eylon, president and CEO of Longwoods International, to talk about his organization's latest traveler sentiment survey. Originally created as a tool to study the effect of COVID-19 on travel and tourism, it has proven once again to be an invaluable resource as the United States heads into potential economic uncertainty.
"When you look at the data for people who said they went on a staycation and you ask them where they went, they went on a regional road trip. When you hear the word staycation as marketers, don't think these are people who are going to plant themselves on the couch and not go anywhere. They are definitely going to be doing regional road trips." -Amir Eylon
Longwoods International
The Traveler Sentiment Survey
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Jun 21, 2022 • 41min
201: The Importance of Owned Media with Stuart Butler
Adam Stoker talks with Stuart Butler, CMO of the Myrtle Beach Area Chamber of Commerce. Today, they discuss using owned media to market your destination, building your own audience, and connecting with consumers through entertainment.
"As an industry we have to change and say: 'how do we own an audience? How do we reach people higher in the funnel through branded entertainment so that over time, we can shape their thoughts and behaviors to have a higher propensity to come to our destination?" - Stuart Butler
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Jun 14, 2022 • 22min
200: 200 Episodes of the Destination Marketing Podcast
For our 200th episode, Adam recounts the road that led to where he is today — CEO of Relic Agency and host of the Destination Marketing Podcast.
“It's amazing to see that this little idea that we had has pioneered an initiative in the industry. Now, I see podcasts popping up all over the place, and the amazing thing is I'm seeing the industry finally catch onto this concept that we really feel like we introduced to the industry." - Adam Stoker
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.