

Owner To Owner Podcast
Michael Kerr
Owner to Owner is the boldest business podcast for Australia’s SMEs. Host Michael Kerr gets raw and real, talking to business owners like you. Exploring the everyday struggles they face and the different pathways they tread to success. Forget the slick stories of tech titans and out-of-reach solutions from people who’ve never put their hopes and livelihood on the line. Owner to Owner dives into the wins and losses, pitfalls, luck and moments that made a difference.
You’ll find grit, laughs, maybe a few tears and hard-won lessons only available from others who’ve been where you are—whatever your stage of ownership.
Every business owner has a compelling story to share. Join us to listen and learn.
You’ll find grit, laughs, maybe a few tears and hard-won lessons only available from others who’ve been where you are—whatever your stage of ownership.
Every business owner has a compelling story to share. Join us to listen and learn.
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Jan 31, 2023 • 28min
PART 2 - Jill Weeks, author and educator, from where2now.net on new and different ways to think about and 'do' retirement.
@JillWeeks has travelled widely across Australian and spoken with hundreds of people about #retirement. Where to retire? How to retire? What to do in retirement? Drawing on these stories from inspiring people Jill shares her tips on different ways to think about and 'do' retirement. In our discussion we cover;how retirement has changed in the last 20-30 years, and how this has opened up more optionshow the development of technology has allowed for retirement to involve a;#profitablehobby#homebasedbusiness, or #freelanceworkpersonal planning for life after businesshow business owners can find themsleves with little to do after they #sellabusiness to #retire the impact of selling your business and retiring on a #businessowners the need to rethink your approach to retirement to maintain #purposethe knowledge a #semiretired person can bring to another #smallbusinesstaking a break from your businessrethinking how to use your 40 work hours when you don't have a job or a businesthe importance of “protecting your brain” during retirement to ensure you are continually challenging yourself
Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

Jan 31, 2023 • 28min
PART 1 - Jill Weeks, author and educator, from where2now.net on new and different ways to think about and 'do' retirement.
@JillWeeks has travelled widely across Australian and spoken with hundreds of people about #retirement. Where to retire? How to retire? What to do in retirement? Drawing on these stories from inspiring people Jill shares her tips on different ways to think about and 'do' retirement. In our discussion we cover;how retirement has changed in the last 20-30 years, and how this has opened up more optionshow the development of technology has allowed for retirement to involve a;#profitablehobby#homebasedbusiness, or #freelanceworkpersonal planning for life after businesshow business owners can find themsleves with little to do after they #sellabusiness to #retire the impact of selling your business and retiring on a #businessowners the need to rethink your approach to retirement to maintain #purposethe knowledge a #semiretired person can bring to another #smallbusinesstaking a break from your businessrethinking how to use your 40 work hours when you don't have a job or a businesthe importance of “protecting your brain” during retirement to ensure you are continually challenging yourself
Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

Jan 30, 2023 • 28min
PART 2 - Lloyd Polkinghorne on how integral buying and running the local community newspaper was in his physical and emotional recovery from a traumatic injury sustained while working on his farm.
@LloydPolkinghorne was a #ricefarmer upuntil a #traumaticbraininjury caused by a mis-firing shotgun. After years of struggling physically and emotionally he needed to 'get back on the horse'. He did this by buying his local community newspaper www.thebridgenews.com.au . It was a bold and brave step. He made it with full support of family and an internal sense that he had to do something, knowing full well farming still wasn't an option. In our discussion we cover;the importance of having something meangingful to do #Smallbusiness as a vehicle for physical and emotional recoveryhow a business becomes a part of an #owners #identitythe impact on an in individual when work is removed from their life #purpose how the opportunity to buy the local #communitynewspaper brought purpose and the opportunity to represent the community he had grown up inassessing the opportunity to take over the a business how Lloyd’s #farming background taught him to be adaptable and think outside of the square which is what he had to do after his move into another professionwhat Lloyd learnt during the process of buying; in particular the process of being tapped on the shoulder to take over the newspaperthe importance of having a good advisor during the processthe role small businesses, including the local newspaper, play in a community and how the paper gives community members something to enjoy that is incredibly important to their routine how the local newspaper has become a key advocate for #ruralcommunities when it comes to state governments and electoratesaddressing the challenges that can arise running a rural newspaper due to differing views across the communitybalancing the #247newscycle that comes with running a newspaper and your personal lifehow small businesses fit into #ruraleconomies and the impact on #localtourism can havethe impact COVID-19 has had on rural and regional towns, their economies, population and consequently small businessesexploring the idea of moving into a #cooperativemodel of business for the newspaperacknowledging when time frames arise naturally and making the decision to then move on from a businesswhat approach Lloyd is taking to advertise and start the process of moving on from the newspaperAlong the way Lloyd also founded www.facebook.com/Lloydswalkforwater
Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

Jan 30, 2023 • 28min
PART 1 - Lloyd Polkinghorne on how integral buying and running the local community newspaper was in his physical and emotional recovery from a traumatic injury sustained while working on his farm.
@LloydPolkinghorne was a #ricefarmer upuntil a #traumaticbraininjury caused by a mis-firing shotgun. After years of struggling physically and emotionally he needed to 'get back on the horse'. He did this by buying his local community newspaper www.thebridgenews.com.au . It was a bold and brave step. He made it with full support of family and an internal sense that he had to do something, knowing full well farming still wasn't an option. In our discussion we cover;the importance of having something meangingful to do #Smallbusiness as a vehicle for physical and emotional recoveryhow a business becomes a part of an #owners #identitythe impact on an in individual when work is removed from their life #purpose how the opportunity to buy the local #communitynewspaper brought purpose and the opportunity to represent the community he had grown up inassessing the opportunity to take over the a business how Lloyd’s #farming background taught him to be adaptable and think outside of the square which is what he had to do after his move into another professionwhat Lloyd learnt during the process of buying; in particular the process of being tapped on the shoulder to take over the newspaperthe importance of having a good advisor during the processthe role small businesses, including the local newspaper, play in a community and how the paper gives community members something to enjoy that is incredibly important to their routine how the local newspaper has become a key advocate for #ruralcommunities when it comes to state governments and electoratesaddressing the challenges that can arise running a rural newspaper due to differing views across the communitybalancing the #247newscycle that comes with running a newspaper and your personal lifehow small businesses fit into #ruraleconomies and the impact on #localtourism can havethe impact COVID-19 has had on rural and regional towns, their economies, population and consequently small businessesexploring the idea of moving into a #cooperativemodel of business for the newspaperacknowledging when time frames arise naturally and making the decision to then move on from a businesswhat approach Lloyd is taking to advertise and start the process of moving on from the newspaperAlong the way Lloyd also founded www.facebook.com/Lloydswalkforwater
Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

Jan 9, 2023 • 28min
PART 3 - Norman Hall from Exit By Design makes a compelling case for why business owners need an Exit Plan.
@NormanHall has a diverse background including business, corporate and private banking. He's also been through the process of selling a family business that his wife founded. Now he's a specialist #exitplanner and draws on all this experience to help #businessowners protect the value they have built up in their business, and then when the time is right, plan and execute a more successful #businessexit. In our discussion we cover;the importance of having a ‘ringmaster’ for your businesses exitthe reasons business owners put off exit planning and the consequences of thisthe challenging discussions that can arise in family businesses that have not considered an exit planthe timelines that are involved in exit planninghow Norman breaks down the process of exit planning for owners into something worthy and compelling for the time and effort involvedwhy business owners should see value in exit planning as an #investmentwhy the very old mantra of "failing to plan = planning to fail" unfortunately still applies to many owners the importance of staged exit planning because “you cannot do it all at once”working with the new business owner after selling how Norman drew on his own experience and the experience of his wife and business partner to get their business ready to sell the importance of having all your external experts taking the same approachwhy it is important for exit planning to involve #successionplanning, #businessplanning, and structuring for tax purposes as well as management purposesbreaking down the assumptions that surround exit planningwhy problems with terminology have misled owners about exit planning, what it involves and why it is so importantCONTRIBUTORSNorman HallMichael KerrKEYWORDSexitbydesignfamilybusinessbusinessownershipsmallbusinessexitplanningbusinessexit
Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

Jan 9, 2023 • 28min
PART 2 - Norman Hall from Exit By Design makes a compelling case for why business owners need an Exit Plan.
@NormanHall has a diverse background including business, corporate and private banking. He's also been through the process of selling a family business that his wife founded. Now he's a specialist #exitplanner and draws on all this experience to help #businessowners protect the value they have built up in their business, and then when the time is right, plan and execute a more successful #businessexit. In our discussion we cover;the importance of having a ‘ringmaster’ for your businesses exitthe reasons business owners put off exit planning and the consequences of thisthe challenging discussions that can arise in family businesses that have not considered an exit planthe timelines that are involved in exit planninghow Norman breaks down the process of exit planning for owners into something worthy and compelling for the time and effort involvedwhy business owners should see value in exit planning as an #investmentwhy the very old mantra of "failing to plan = planning to fail" unfortunately still applies to many owners the importance of staged exit planning because “you cannot do it all at once”working with the new business owner after selling how Norman drew on his own experience and the experience of his wife and business partner to get their business ready to sell the importance of having all your external experts taking the same approachwhy it is important for exit planning to involve #successionplanning, #businessplanning, and structuring for tax purposes as well as management purposesbreaking down the assumptions that surround exit planningwhy problems with terminology have misled owners about exit planning, what it involves and why it is so importantCONTRIBUTORSNorman HallMichael KerrKEYWORDSexitbydesignfamilybusinessbusinessownershipsmallbusinessexitplanningbusinessexit
Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

Dec 8, 2022 • 28min
PART 1 - Norman Hall from Exit By Design makes a compelling case for why business owners need an Exit Plan.
@NormanHall has a diverse background including business, corporate and private banking. He's also been through the process of selling a family business that his wife founded. Now he's a specialist #exitplanner and draws on all this experience to help #businessowners protect the value they have built up in their business, and then when the time is right, plan and execute a more successful #businessexit. In our discussion we cover;the importance of having a ‘ringmaster’ for your businesses exitthe reasons business owners put off exit planning and the consequences of thisthe challenging discussions that can arise in family businesses that have not considered an exit planthe timelines that are involved in exit planninghow Norman breaks down the process of exit planning for owners into something worthy and compelling for the time and effort involvedwhy business owners should see value in exit planning as an #investmentwhy the very old mantra of "failing to plan = planning to fail" unfortunately still applies to many owners the importance of staged exit planning because “you cannot do it all at once”working with the new business owner after selling how Norman drew on his own experience and the experience of his wife and business partner to get their business ready to sell the importance of having all your external experts taking the same approachwhy it is important for exit planning to involve #successionplanning, #businessplanning, and structuring for tax purposes as well as management purposesbreaking down the assumptions that surround exit planningwhy problems with terminology have misled owners about exit planning, what it involves and why it is so important
Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

Nov 27, 2022 • 27min
PART 3 - Yasmin Grigaliunas founder of Circonomy (née Worlds Biggest Garage Sale) on the personal commitment, energy and sacrifices to begin, grow and sustain a viable world changing business.
@YasminGrigaliunas is the #founder of @circonomy (nee @WorldsBiggestGarageSale) that is delivering big on their mantra of a world where nothing useful goes to waste, including human potential. She brought energy. commitment and #ownermindset to everything she did prior in roles as #employee #licensee #businessowner #founder and #mentor. Across three episodes we track right back to the influences that helped formed Yas's personal motivations and values. Along with the desire to deliver change through business they fuelled the formation and ongoing success of @circonomy. Our discussion covers;How taking on a permanent full time role as manager of #SilviosDialAPizza (now #dominos) after finishing school changed the trajectory of Yas’ career to becoming a real entrepreneurThe significant role #smallbusinesses play in creating our future business leaders and sustaining our local communitiesThe importance of having a small business ownership mindset and "acting like an owner”Why small businesses with constraints should consider partnerships with bigger businessesHow Yas’s personal passion for supporting cancer research seeded the World’s Largest Garage SaleWhy doing business that isn't about yourselfThe #circulareconomy that surrounds charities and different enterprisesWhy Yas made the decision to stay as a small business #socialenterprise and not a #charity#raisingcapitalThe partnership with @OfficeWorks (capability = agility + stability)#trust and #transparency in a business relationshipWhy timing is everything in businessHow Circonomy adapted to COVID-19 pressures and made the decision to #godigitalYasmin’s top 10 tips for starting a business partnershipThe crossroads that founders and business owners have to faceThe importance of self-awareness for business owners to understand what is important for them as owners and their businessReference booksThe Little Engine That Could @thelittleenginethatcouldMultipliers @mulitpliersWho Moved My Cheese @whomovedmycheese
Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

Nov 27, 2022 • 27min
PART 2 - Yasmin Grigaliunas founder of Circonomy (née Worlds Biggest Garage Sale) on the personal commitment, energy and sacrifices to begin, grow and sustain a viable world changing business.
@YasminGrigaliunas is the #founder of @circonomy (nee @WorldsBiggestGarageSale) that is delivering big on their mantra of a world where nothing useful goes to waste, including human potential. She brought energy. commitment and #ownermindset to everything she did prior in roles as #employee #licensee #businessowner #founder and #mentor. Across three episodes we track right back to the influences that helped formed Yas's personal motivations and values. Along with the desire to deliver change through business they fuelled the formation and ongoing success of @circonomy. Our discussion covers;How taking on a permanent full time role as manager of #SilviosDialAPizza (now #dominos) after finishing school changed the trajectory of Yas’ career to becoming a real entrepreneurThe significant role #smallbusinesses play in creating our future business leaders and sustaining our local communitiesThe importance of having a small business ownership mindset and "acting like an owner”Why small businesses with constraints should consider partnerships with bigger businessesHow Yas’s personal passion for supporting cancer research seeded the World’s Largest Garage SaleWhy doing business that isn't about yourselfThe #circulareconomy that surrounds charities and different enterprisesWhy Yas made the decision to stay as a small business #socialenterprise and not a #charity#raisingcapitalThe partnership with @OfficeWorks (capability = agility + stability)#trust and #transparency in a business relationshipWhy timing is everything in businessHow Circonomy adapted to COVID-19 pressures and made the decision to #godigitalYasmin’s top 10 tips for starting a business partnershipThe crossroads that founders and business owners have to faceThe importance of self-awareness for business owners to understand what is important for them as owners and their businessReference booksThe Little Engine That Could @thelittleenginethatcouldMultipliers @mulitpliersWho Moved My Cheese @whomovedmycheese
Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au

Nov 27, 2022 • 27min
PART 1 - Yasmin Grigaliunas founder of Circonomy (née Worlds Biggest Garage Sale) on the personal commitment, energy and sacrifices to begin, grow and sustain a viable world changing business.
@YasminGrigaliunas is the #founder of @circonomy (nee @WorldsBiggestGarageSale) that is delivering big on their mantra of a world where nothing useful goes to waste, including human potential. She brought energy. commitment and #ownermindset to everything she did prior in roles as #employee #licensee #businessowner #founder and #mentor. Across three episodes we track right back to the influences that helped formed Yas's personal motivations and values. Along with the desire to deliver change through business they fuelled the formation and ongoing success of @circonomy. Our discussion covers;How taking on a permanent full time role as manager of #SilviosDialAPizza (now #dominos) after finishing school changed the trajectory of Yas’ career to becoming a real entrepreneurThe significant role #smallbusinesses play in creating our future business leaders and sustaining our local communitiesThe importance of having a small business ownership mindset and "acting like an owner”Why small businesses with constraints should consider partnerships with bigger businessesHow Yas’s personal passion for supporting cancer research seeded the World’s Largest Garage SaleWhy doing business that isn't about yourselfThe #circulareconomy that surrounds charities and different enterprisesWhy Yas made the decision to stay as a small business #socialenterprise and not a #charity#raisingcapital#impact The partnership with @OfficeWorks (capability = agility + stability)#trust and #transparency in a business relationshipWhy timing is everything in businessHow Circonomy adapted to COVID-19 pressures and made the decision to #godigitalYasmin’s top 10 tips for starting a business partnershipThe crossroads that founders and business owners have to faceThe importance of self-awareness for business owners to understand what is important for them as owners and their businessReference booksThe Little Engine That Could @thelittleenginethatcould Multipliers @mulitpliersWho Moved My Cheese @whomovedmycheese
Thanks for listening. Visit the Owner To Owner Podcast website to subscribe, listen back, or check out any resources or information mentioned on the show.Search @ownertoownerpodcast on your favourite podcast player to subscribe and listen to the episodes.Reach out to Michael Kerr via the website if you need personal assistance or advice for your small business.michael.kerr@kerrcapital.com.auwww.ownertoownerpodcast.com.au