More or Less
Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin
Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin have debated the future of Silicon Valley and tech as the closest of friends for the last 15 years. Now six companies, two venture funds and more than a decade at Google, Apple and Facebook later, they are opening up the debate. From The Information, Offline Ventures, and Slow Ventures.
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Jul 25, 2025 • 57min
#109 OpenAI vs Google: The Real Business Model War Begins
This discussion explores the need for genuine enjoyment in the startup scene. The hosts dive into the playful side of AI, revealing how humor and creativity can enhance tech interactions. They analyze the competitive clash between Google and OpenAI, examining the future of AI investment dynamics. Insights on Apple’s unique stance amidst the AI hype are shared, along with thoughts on the emotional landscape of tech investments. The conversation wraps up with a humorous take on societal behaviors influenced by pop culture.
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Jul 18, 2025 • 60min
#108 Meta vs. OpenAI: Who Wins the Next Attention War?
Explore the fierce competition between AI giants as they tackle attention, engagement, and business models. Discover how tools like ChatGPT are shifting the landscape of productivity and entertainment. Dive into the role of AI in revitalizing local journalism and the challenges of data governance. Uncover the nuanced relationship between social media dynamics, AI-driven advertising, and consumer behavior. Plus, enjoy insights into modern coding practices and a pop culture corner that discusses everything from TV narratives to tennis triumphs!
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Jul 11, 2025 • 57min
#107 Anatoly Yakovenko: Crypto Isn’t for Everyone (And That’s a Good Thing)
Anatoly Yakovenko, co-founder of Solana, dives into the evolving world of cryptocurrency and technology. He discusses the 'punks, hoodies, suits' cycle and how crypto is a movement, not just a product. Anatoly shares predictions about stablecoins potentially reaching $1 trillion and explains the vision behind the Solana phone to challenge app store monopolies. He argues that the future of crypto lies in serving a niche of high-value users rather than mass adoption, offering insights into the shifting dynamics of digital finance and innovation.
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Jul 4, 2025 • 55min
#106: AI Researchers Earning More Than Cristiano Ronaldo
This week, the hosts tackle the fierce competition in AI, questioning if Meta's latest moves position them as the new powerhouse in the industry. They argue against usage-based pricing for AI as a flawed model and discuss the quest for universal 'God-tier' content. The shocking reality emerges that AI researchers are now pulling in more cash than soccer superstars. Additionally, they dive into the dynamics of team building in AI, likening it to assembling a championship sports team, blending humor with insightful industry analysis.
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Jun 27, 2025 • 51min
#105: Tesla, Bumble, And Bezos' Wedding - Everything Is A Mess
In a lively summer edition, the hosts explore how AI is revolutionizing hiring, questioning the relevance of traditional resumes. They share laughs over quirky topics like the 'nap dress' and a 'caffeine nap.' The discussion then shifts to innovations in coding, Tesla's autonomous vehicles, and the stark contrast of Jeff Bezos' lavish wedding amid economic inequality. With humor woven throughout, they also tackle modern dating challenges, particularly for Bumble, and suggest new ways to navigate the tangled tech landscape.
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Jun 20, 2025 • 53min
#104: AI Clones, Commoditized Ads, and the Cult of Trust
Explore the AI talent wars as major players like Meta and OpenAI vie for top innovators. Discover how AI is reshaping advertising strategies and challenging brands to maintain emotional connections in a commoditized market. Delve into the paradox of capitalism as AI impacts profit margins and job landscapes. Hear about the evolving dynamics for founders in tech, emphasizing trust and community, and understand the shift in marketing strategies from traditional methods to more authentic, attraction-based approaches.
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Jun 13, 2025 • 1h 10min
#103: Are Silicon Valley’s Mega-Deals Just Talent Grabs?
Discover if Austin is outpacing San Francisco in self-driving tech and the real implications of Apple's recent announcements on AI. Learn about Meta's major investments in AI talent and the fierce competition for top researchers in Silicon Valley. The hosts dive into the evolution of data labeling in AI, the changing app landscape, and the quirks of AI missteps in business. With humor and insights, they explore how extraordinary talent is reshaping the tech world and the humorous risks it entails, alongside a thrilling tennis match.
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Jun 6, 2025 • 54min
#102: Snap Spectacles, Build-A-Bear, and the Myth of the Everything App
This week dives into tech culture's mixed reviews, sparking debates on whether it's unwatchable. The future of content creation could be shaped by the rise of 'substackers' as a crucial job. Build-A-Bear emerges as a surprising contender in the AI landscape. Safety concerns surround self-driving cars, especially on field trips. The feasibility of an 'everything app' raises skepticism, with more emphasis likely on specialized tools. From playful toys to innovative tech trends, the discussion brims with insights and humor.
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May 30, 2025 • 56min
#101: The Business of OnlyFans, Future of Identity, and Navigating Privacy in the AI Age
In this discussion, the evolving investment landscape of OnlyFans is examined, revealing its controversial yet promising potential. The impacts of AI on content creation and user interaction spark intriguing insights. Age verification emerges as a critical issue in safeguarding children online. The balance between digital identity and privacy is highlighted, emphasizing the urgent need for secure systems amid rising social engineering threats. Celebrity brands also take center stage, showcasing their significance in today's market.
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May 23, 2025 • 1h 1min
#100: OpenAI Teams Up with Jony Ive, Vibe Coding, Gemini, and More
This week, an AI version of Fidji Simo joins the hosts to discuss intriguing topics. They debate the merits of vibe coding and how it contrasts with traditional software engineering. The conversation also covers OpenAI's $6 billion deal with Jony Ive and the sudden buzz around the Metaphone. Skepticism around AI tools like ChatGPT and the implications of personal data in AI interactions are explored, alongside GitHub's role in reshaping developer productivity. Join the fun as they navigate the evolving landscape of technology and coding!
