
More or Less
Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin have debated the future of Silicon Valley and tech as the closest of friends for the last 15 years. Now six companies, two venture funds and more than a decade at Google, Apple and Facebook later, they are opening up the debate. From The Information, Offline Ventures, and Slow Ventures.
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Latest episodes

44 snips
Mar 28, 2025 • 55min
#92: The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson)
Join media heavyweights Ben Smith, founder of Semafor, and Nick Carlson, founder of Dynamo, as they dive into the juicy collision between Washington and Silicon Valley. They tackle the Signal Group Chat Scandal and dissect how DOGE's popularity reveals deep ideological rifts. The conversation shifts to China overtaking Tesla and Elon Musk's changing public perception. They explore the impact of AI on creative industries and the media landscape, serving up insights on trust, transparency, and the evolving dynamics of journalism in today's tech-centric world.

47 snips
Mar 21, 2025 • 1h
#91: Google’s $32B Deal and a Silicon Valley Spy Scandal!
In the whirlwind of Silicon Valley, the drama unfolds! Google’s jaw-dropping $32B acquisition raises eyebrows amid antitrust concerns. A spy scandal between fintech firms Rippling and Deel reveals shocking espionage tactics. Gwyneth Paltrow stirs the pot by dismissing intimacy coordinators, highlighting Hollywood’s evolving culture. Meanwhile, innovative apps like GuardLeen aim to protect kids’ online identities. Plus, venture capital dynamics reveal the intense rivalries, making this tech landscape more intriguing than ever!

68 snips
Mar 14, 2025 • 57min
#90: Silicon Valley Unscripted: Billionaires, AI, and Interplanetary Exploration
A lively discussion unfolds as the hosts dive into Waymo's bold moves and the impact on ride-sharing apps. Tensions rise over a million-dollar bet on Mars colonization! They tackle TikTok's uncertain future amid algorithmic debates and ponder the implications of AI taking over coding tasks. The conversation touches on potential recessions, startup resilience, and whimsical thoughts about tennis on Mars. With humor and insights, they explore the quirky dynamics of Silicon Valley, economics, and the evolving media landscape.

14 snips
Mar 7, 2025 • 53min
#89: America’s Crypto Reserve, Nvidia’s $600M Hit & Digg’s Comeback
This episode dives into Trump's new crypto reserve strategy, analyzing its cultural implications. The team discusses nostalgic trends and the revival of early internet platforms while pondering the fate of live sports in a digital world. They also tackle unconventional advertising, including a quirky AI billboard. Fun anecdotes about surfing adventures and playful banter lighten the mood, alongside serious insights into tech layoffs and the future of autonomous vehicles. A lively exchange about robotic massage therapy adds an unexpected twist to the conversation.

16 snips
Feb 28, 2025 • 1h
#88: Meta’s $200B AI Bet, Instagram Reels & The Future of Content
Live from a bustling summit, the hosts dive into Meta's staggering $200 billion AI bet and the potential launch of a new Reels app to challenge TikTok. They share amusing hotel tales and dissect the media mogul ambitions of Jeff Bezos. The conversation extends to meme coins and their place in today’s digital economy, while reflecting on the challenges faced by Instagram amid fierce competition. Finally, insights from the Time Women of the Year Gala celebrate the achievements of women shaping various industries, leaving you with a mix of humor and inspiration.

26 snips
Feb 21, 2025 • 1h 2min
#87: SKIMS To Revive Nike? AI Drama & The Satoshi Mystery
Elon Musk seems to be stirring the pot on social media, leaving us questioning if his interactions are just clever marketing. The AI landscape is buzzing with discussions on the failures of AI tools like Humane's pin and the pitfalls of AI integration in consumer products. Meanwhile, the debate over Jack Dorsey possibly being Satoshi adds a layer of intrigue. From skiing shenanigans to the challenges of balancing fitness and family, the conversation offers both laughs and insights into our tech-driven lives.

40 snips
Feb 14, 2025 • 1h 3min
#86: Elon’s $97B Curveball For OpenAI
Elon Musk's $97 billion bid for OpenAI raises eyebrows—does he want it or is it just a meme-worthy move? The conversation touches on the rise of serial influencers and the $60 million fund backing creators. Google Maps faces serious issues, prompting chuckles among the hosts. They dive into AI's effect on productivity and humorously dissect the changing dynamics of remote work. Plus, insights into TikTok negotiations and the transformative future of investment in the creator economy make for a lively discussion.

18 snips
Feb 7, 2025 • 1h 11min
#85: The $250M Meme Coin Experiment
Dive into the whirlwind world of meme coins as frothy investments take a twist with a $250M launch. Discover the amusing backstories behind the chaos and how creators are reshaping content with innovative tools. Explore regulatory hurdles in the crypto space, alongside debates on the government’s engagement with memes like Dogecoin. The hosts share laughs over creative advertising ideas and the ever-evolving relationship between finance, public trust, and digital currencies, all packed with insights and humor.

32 snips
Jan 31, 2025 • 1h 3min
#84: China's DeepSeek Shakes the Tech World
A groundbreaking Chinese model, DeepSeek, is shaking up Big Tech, causing a $1 trillion loss in market value. The hosts humorously dissect the role of memes in financial markets and discuss the rapid transformation of news consumption in our digital age. They delve into meme coins, the nostalgia of platforms like Vine, and the differences between open source and proprietary tech. AI advancements also take center stage, revealing the competitive landscape and its impact on corporate strategies. Expect laughs and insights throughout!

34 snips
Jan 24, 2025 • 52min
#83: Trump Inauguration, Stargate, and the Meme Economy
Discover the tantalizing world of the $500 billion Stargate project and its connections to tech giants like Elon Musk and Satya Nadella. Dive into the intriguing role of Silicon Valley during the tumultuous Trump era, exploring public image and wardrobe choices. Uncover the dynamics of the meme economy and its redefined value landscape, in contrast to traditional metrics. Plus, get a glimpse into the psychological effects of cryptocurrency investing, highlighting the emotional rollercoaster of retail investors. It's a wild ride through tech and finance!