
More or Less
Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin have debated the future of Silicon Valley and tech as the closest of friends for the last 15 years. Now six companies, two venture funds and more than a decade at Google, Apple and Facebook later, they are opening up the debate. From The Information, Offline Ventures, and Slow Ventures.
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Latest episodes

29 snips
Nov 29, 2024 • 1h 2min
#75: The Rise of the Tech Bro
In this discussion, filmmaker Matt Vascellaro shares his insights on the clash between artists and the tech bro culture, particularly in the wake of the Sora leak. He explores the uneasy partnership of AI and art, emphasizing the challenges in finding effective user interfaces. The conversation also tackles the stereotypes surrounding tech bros like Elon Musk, the underrepresentation of women in tech, and the pressing need for authenticity in storytelling. The hosts dig into the evolving dynamics of entertainment and the role of immersive experiences in shaping the future.

26 snips
Nov 22, 2024 • 1h 5min
#74: Winding Down From a $400M Fundraise, or How to Move Forward After Forward (with Adrian Aoun)
Adrian Aoun, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur and founder of Forward, discusses the challenges of winding down his AI-driven healthcare startup. He shares insights on creating sustainable healthcare solutions and tackles whether primary care can scale. The conversation humorously delves into the unique relationships among tech titans like Elon Musk and Donald Trump, and even touches on his memorable experiences in NYC. Aoun highlights resilience in entrepreneurship and reflects on valuable lessons learned from navigating failures and market corrections.

10 snips
Nov 15, 2024 • 1h 1min
#73: Elon to Lead DOGE, Bitcoin Surges & the Trump Alliance
The discussion explores Elon Musk's growing influence on government, merging tech interests with political power. There's speculation about Bitcoin potentially surging to $100K and the implications of leaders like Musk in the crypto community. They dive into investment strategies in volatile markets and the intertwining of tech and politics. AI developments are analyzed, especially in healthcare and advertising. Additionally, humorous anecdotes about personal experiences and pop culture add a light-hearted touch to the conversation.

21 snips
Nov 8, 2024 • 1h 10min
#72: Trump's Influencer Strategy Pays Off and the Future of App Building (with Guillermo Rauch!)
Guillermo Rauch, CEO of Vercel, discusses the shift towards citizen journalism and the decline of traditional media gatekeeping. He emphasizes the democratization of content creation, noting that the rise of personal platforms allows diverse voices to emerge. The conversation touches on the implications of AI and algorithms in shaping public narratives and the erosion of trust in news organizations. They also explore the role of Vercel in facilitating application development and the challenges posed by bots and misinformation in today's digital landscape.

Nov 1, 2024 • 1h 5min
#71: Big Tech Earnings and the AI Revolution
The conversation kicks off with the pivotal role of AI tools in tech development, examining why they’re here to stay. Snap's ambitious subscription model faces off against Meta's market clout. Bezos’s political anxieties add a twist as the crew discusses the digital realm’s influence on elections, creators, and voter engagement. The debate continues on tech product quality, digital advertising peculiarities, and innovative inventions. Expect humor mingled with insights on navigating screen time and effective communication in an AI-driven landscape.

6 snips
Oct 25, 2024 • 1h 5min
#70: Is Apple’s Vision Out of Focus?
This discussion dives into Apple's shocking sales slump of the Vision Pro, revealing a drop from a projected three million to just 450,000 units. The hosts compare Apple's AR strategies with Meta's, while also exploring the intricate relationship between AI, mental health, and societal impacts. They touch on the evolving role of journalism in tech reporting and the pressing need for accuracy in a misinformed world. Light-hearted anecdotes about life, cars, and celebrity encounters add humor to the insightful analysis.

6 snips
Oct 18, 2024 • 55min
#69: Robots, Rockets, and Elon Hype
Discover the intriguing world of Tesla's robotics and the hype surrounding its advancements. The hosts explore whether these innovations are genuinely groundbreaking or just a show like a theme park attraction. They dive into the promising future of robovehicles and the culture of online retail that fuels Planet Elon. Late-stage capitalism and its effects on innovation are up for discussion, alongside the challenges of monetizing autonomous technologies. Join this engaging conversation about tech, investment, and the reality behind the buzz!

5 snips
Oct 11, 2024 • 1h 3min
#68: Google's Antitrust Saga Continues…
The podcast dives deep into Google's ongoing antitrust challenges, pondering if a breakup is on the horizon. The hosts discuss the intricate landscape of Big Tech regulations and how it impacts innovation. They also tackle screen time and the struggle for healthier tech habits, weaving in personal anecdotes. Finally, the conversation shifts to the future of AI, exploring its potential risks and rewards, and pondering whether leveraging AI for consumer apps is still merely a dream.

13 snips
Oct 4, 2024 • 50min
#67: OpenAI Sets a Record and Will Apple Make Its Next Move?
Delve into OpenAI's record-breaking funding round and its strategic shift in product development. Discover the intersection of AI and consumer experiences, while Apple considers its role in this evolving landscape. A humorous take on the quirks of venture capitalists adds lightness to serious discussions. Explore AI's impact on health tech and venture capital trends, alongside quirky insights on Japan's demographic challenges. Wind down with entertaining pop culture commentary and intriguing tech innovations.

8 snips
Sep 27, 2024 • 55min
#66: Meta Connect, the Hardware Renaissance (or Not?) and Special Guest Dan Feder
Dan Feder, a limited partner at Offline and Slow Ventures and associated with the University of Michigan, joins the hosts for a lively discussion. They dive into Meta's recent hardware innovations, including Ray-Ban glasses and Quest VR devices. The conversation shifts to venture capital strategies, likening investment to fishing, and the challenges of navigating private market inefficiencies. They also explore Japan's unique tech landscape, contrasting its collectivist culture with the individualistic spirit of American entrepreneurship, highlighting valuable lessons for both sides.
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