More or Less SaaS Companies Beware: AI Is The New UI (Anthropic's Claude Code and Cowork)
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Jan 16, 2026 This discussion dives into how AI is transforming the landscape of software, particularly for SaaS companies. Vibe-coding tools are rapidly changing the way UIs are designed, with one host demonstrating an impressive reverse-engineering feat. The risks of local AI agents raise concerns about security vulnerabilities. There's a provocative question about whether software is even a defensible business anymore. The conversation wraps up with reflections on the playful, yet underwhelming, nature of many AI-driven projects today.
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Reverse‑Engineered Mural In Minutes
- Dave reverse‑engineered his Mural photo frames and built a new web UI in under 30 minutes using Claude/CloudBot tools.
- He open‑sourced the Mural manager on GitHub so others can use the improved interface.
Hacking Tonal To Extract Data
- Dave used the same approach to pull data from a Tonal gym device that had no public API so he could extract workout data.
- He framed these moves as productive hacks that illustrate how accessible device data can be when tinkered with locally.
Local Agents Are A Security Backdoor
- Local AI agents with root or browser access present a profound security and privacy risk because they can read files and control interfaces.
- Sam warns this creates a backdoor to everything and will force trust to consolidate with big platforms like Apple and Google.