
Better Done Than Perfect
The show for SaaS marketers and product people. We talk with industry experts about email automation, marketing, content, and product strategy.
Latest episodes

Jul 28, 2023 • 31min
Marketing for Humans with Sarah McCredie
How can B2B brands become more authentic and straightforward in their messaging? In this episode, we talk to Sarah McCredie, director of product marketing at Recurly. You'll learn what marketing for humans is, which brands are nailing it, why you shouldn’t be afraid to rebrand, and more.Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings.Recurly — Sarah’s place of workGlossier — one of direct-to-consumer pioneers in human marketingSlack — an example of human branding in SaaSState of Subscriptions: What consumers wantConnect with Sarah on LinkedInThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about the show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. It matches the complexity of your customer data, including many-to-many relationships between users and companies. Book your demo call today at userlist.com.

Jul 14, 2023 • 29min
Re-engagement Emails with Tim Hart
How do you know if a subscriber is due for a re-engagement campaign? In this episode, we talk to Tim Hart, senior email developer at Response Labs. You'll learn what incentives you can offer to reactivate subscribers, what engagement metrics matter the most, how often you should be pruning your email list, and more.Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings.Response LabsEmail GeeksConnect with Tim on LinkedInThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about the show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. Onboard, engage, and nurture your customers, as well as marketing leads. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.

Jun 30, 2023 • 43min
Customer Acquisition Strategies with Farzad Rashidi
How can you improve your customer acquisition funnel? In this episode, we talk to Farzad Rashidi, co-founder of Respona. You'll learn how they grow and convert their website traffic, how to help your landing pages rank, what content promotion strategies work best, and more.Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings.Respona — Farzad’s toolUI Breakfast Episode 167: Designing Effective Presentations with Payman TaeiSemrush, Ahrefs, Moz — Farzad’s tool stackOutreach Strategy HubConnect with Farzad on LinkedInThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about the show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. It matches the complexity of your customer data, including many-to-many relationships between users and companies. Book your demo call today at userlist.com.

Jun 16, 2023 • 38min
Prioritizing Engineering Resources with Phil Alves
How do you get the best ROI from your engineering team while keeping them happy? In this episode, we talk to Phil Alves, founder of DevSquad and DevStats. You'll learn how to prioritize feature development, how to take care of your developers’ well-being, what non-technical founders should know, and more.Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings.DevSquad — Phil’s consultancyDevStats — Phil’s productShape Up — a book by Ryan SingerUI Breakfast Podcast Episode 238: The Allied Team Model with Anthony ArmendarizDORA MetricsSPACE FrameworkSaaS Origin StoriesCheck out Phil’s websiteFollow Phil on TwitterThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about the show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. Onboard, engage, and nurture your customers, as well as marketing leads. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.

Jun 5, 2023 • 42min
Virality & Word of Mouth with Gaurav Vohra
How can virality and word of mouth help with your SaaS growth? In this episode, we talk to Gaurav Vohra, a startup advisor and a member of the founding team at Superhuman. You'll learn why they decided to focus on a specific set of channels, the mechanics of virality, how you can measure it in the early stages, and more.Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings.Superhuman — Gaurav’s companyTraction — a book by Gabriel Weinberg and Justin MaresWarby Parker — an example of great customer experienceHow to Model Viral Growth: The Hybrid ModelWhat is K-Factor in Viral Marketing?Snowflake, HubSpot, BigQueryWordle, DALL·E, Midjourney, ChatGPT, Lensa — viral success storiesCheck out Gaurav’s websiteFollow Gaurav on Twitter and LinkedInThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about the show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. It matches the complexity of your customer data, including many-to-many relationships between users and companies. Book your demo call today at userlist.com.

May 19, 2023 • 47min
Using Swag to Grow Your SaaS Brand with Scott Markovits
How can swag amplify your SaaS brand reputation? In this episode, we talk to Scott Markovits, fractional COO and startup mentor. You'll learn how swag supplements your marketing strategy, when it’s best to offer swag, why you should be thoughtful about selecting physical items, and more.Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings.InVision — Scott’s previous place of workThreadbirdCotton BureauFathom AnalyticsFollow Scott on Twitter and LinkedInCheck out Scott’s websiteLeading From AfarThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about the show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. Onboard, engage, and nurture your customers, as well as marketing leads. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.

May 5, 2023 • 53min
Personal Motivation in B2B SaaS with Sofia Quintero
How can you uncover your customers’ personal motivation and leverage it for SaaS growth? In this episode, we talk to Sofia Quintero, the founder of Collie and previously the founder of EnjoyHQ. You'll learn the lessons she learned from building EnjoyHQ, how you can get customers to open up to you, why you should ask why their project may fail, and more.Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings.Collie — Sofia’s new product, a tool for engineering teamsEnjoyHQ — Sofia’s previous companyKnow Your Customers’ “Jobs to Be Done”Uncovering Customer Insights with Aggelos MouzakitisCheck out Sofia’s personal websiteThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about the show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. It matches the complexity of your customer data, including many-to-many relationships between users and companies. Book your demo call today at userlist.com.

Apr 21, 2023 • 41min
SaaS Brand Architecture with Karrie Sanderson
What makes a SaaS brand special? In this episode, we talk to Karrie Sanderson, a marketing executive and former chief marketing officer at Typeform. You'll learn about the work that goes into branding, why branding also involves internal education, how to stay on brand when you’re scaling, and more.Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings.Typeform, Smartsheet — Karrie’s previous employersUncovering Customer Insights with Aggelos MouzakitisWynter — a research platformWarby Parker — an example of a consistent brandBrandfolder, Frontify — Digital asset management systemsConnect with Karrie on LinkedInThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about the show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. Onboard, engage, and nurture your customers, as well as marketing leads. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.

Apr 7, 2023 • 43min
Managing SaaS Growth with Asia Orangio
How do you approach and manage your SaaS growth processes? In this episode, we talk to Asia Orangio, founder and CEO of DemandMaven. You'll learn why selecting your North Star KPI is crucial, how to pick a focus area, how to handle pricing experiments, and more.Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings.DemandMaven — Asia’s companyHacking Growth — a book by Sean Ellis and Morgan BrownSprint — a book by Jake Knapp, John Zeratsky, and Braden KowitzNorth Star KPIVan Westendorp Price Sensitivity SurveyHow Superhuman Built an Engine to Find Product-Market FitPrice Intelligently BlogSoftware Pricing Design with Chris Mele10+ Survey Email Examples for Your SaaS + Free TemplateFollow Asia on Twitter and on LinkedInIn Demand PodcastThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about the show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. It matches the complexity of your customer data, including many-to-many relationships between users and companies. Book your demo call today at userlist.com.

Mar 3, 2023 • 1h 5min
Software Pricing Design with Chris Mele
Why should SaaS businesses invest in a pricing strategy? In this episode, we talk to Chris Mele, the managing partner at Software Pricing Partners. You'll learn what happens behind-the-scenes of enterprise pricing, what value-based selling really is, the problem with pricing tiers, and more.Visit our website for the detailed episode recap with key learnings.Software Pricing PartnersThe three worst B2B SaaS pricing errors – and how to avoid themThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about the show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. Onboard, engage, and nurture your customers, as well as marketing leads. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.