Rattle & Pedal: B2B Marketing Podcast
Jason Mlicki & Jeff McKay
Jason Mlicki, agency leader, and Jeff McKay, former global CMO, discuss growth, marketing, and life in professional services in this weekly podcast. The duo offers divergent thoughts on solving the issues practice leaders and marketers confront—or probably should—including stupid sh*t Marketing should NOT do, how Marketing ruins everything, the BS of professional services, and unleashing your Young Turks. Executive guests and industry experts join frequently to share their insights and experiences. It’s all served up with humor and a refreshing dose of reality from two guys who know how to grow firms.
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Jul 7, 2025 • 28min
REPLAY: Avoiding the Sales Kill Box with Gartner’s Maria Boulden
In this insightful discussion, Maria Boulden, Gartner's CSO Whisperer and former DuPont leader, delves into the evolving B2B sales landscape. She highlights how the pandemic has shifted buyer behaviors, noting that buyers now spend less time with suppliers. Maria emphasizes the importance of adapting sales strategies to align with contemporary preferences, such as the growing demand for rep-free experiences. She also explores the challenges sales teams face in guiding buyers through the complex decision-making process and stresses the need for relationship-building and clarity in communication.
Jun 27, 2025 • 40min
Growth That Scales: Aligning Thinkers, Sellers, and Doers to Create Market Momentum
Discover how aligning marketing, sales, and delivery through the IC Triad enables professional services firms to commercialize their expertise and drive market momentum.
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Jun 13, 2025 • 38min
The Framework for Firms That Want to Win: The Prudent Pedal Growth Framework
Discover the Prudent Pedal Growth Framework designed for professional services firms. The hosts discuss cultural challenges and the thinker-seller dynamic as key growth inhibitors. They introduce a triangular growth model that aligns market, capabilities, and brand to boost revenue. Explore the concept of 'best selves' and the importance of strategic alignment, especially with the rise of AI. Finally, the importance of the IC triad—marketing, delivery, and sales—is highlighted as crucial for enhancing brand preference and overcoming challenges.
May 30, 2025 • 37min
The Real Reasons Growth Stalls in Professional Services
Jeff and Jason kick off a multi-part series on the CEO’s Guide to Differentiation, Growth, and Scale by unpacking the three major hurdles to sustainable growth in professional services firms.
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May 16, 2025 • 38min
The Death of Industry-First Segmentation?
Explore how AI is revolutionizing industry-first segmentation in professional services. The shift from traditional industry expertise to a focus on capabilities like operational efficiency is changing client preferences. Dive into the evolving dynamics of client relationships in telecom and the need for tailored solutions. Hear about the balance between specialized knowledge and innovative problem-solving strategies, and how emerging technologies are reshaping decision-making in B2B marketing.
May 2, 2025 • 38min
Measuring Your Marketing (or Brand) Investments
Learn how to assess marketing effectiveness beyond metrics. We discuss the importance of brand preference for sustainable growth and aligning your marketing strategy with your firm’s strategic objectives.
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Apr 18, 2025 • 39min
Is PS Marketing Ahead of the Game or Behind?
Is professional services marketing behind the curve? Jeff and Jason dig into the industry’s creative, strategic, and resource challenges—and the timeless advantages it still holds.
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Apr 4, 2025 • 0sec
The Evolution of Professional Services Marketing: A 25-Year Retrospective
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Mar 21, 2025 • 58min
How AI is Changing Marketing’s Roles
This discussion dives into how AI is reshaping marketing roles, highlighting six key positions essential for strategic success. The enforcer emerges as a pivotal figure, facilitating alignment and execution. A notable tension between data analytics and creative narratives is explored, emphasizing the need for collaboration. The conversation also touches on the human-AI synergy, where unique insights challenge conventional trends. Finally, there's a call for diverse marketing teams to adapt to AI's influence while rethinking organizational structures.
Mar 3, 2025 • 43min
Differentiation: Is It Getting Harder? Or Easier?
From AI-enabled search to the growth of industry directories, the forces of the market are making it harder to differentiate a firm. Or are they?
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