
Rattle & Pedal: B2B Marketing Podcast
Jason Mlicki, agency leader, and Jeff McKay, former global CMO, discuss growth, marketing, and life in professional services in this weekly podcast. The duo offers divergent thoughts on solving the issues practice leaders and marketers confront—or probably should—including stupid sh*t Marketing should NOT do, how Marketing ruins everything, the BS of professional services, and unleashing your Young Turks. Executive guests and industry experts join frequently to share their insights and experiences. It’s all served up with humor and a refreshing dose of reality from two guys who know how to grow firms.
Latest episodes

Mar 3, 2025 • 43min
Differentiation: Is It Getting Harder? Or Easier?
From AI-enabled search to the growth of industry directories, the forces of the market are making it harder to differentiate a firm. Or are they?
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Feb 7, 2025 • 0sec
The Credibility Crisis: Its Impact on Society, Business, and Professional Services Firms—and What to Do About It
We examine the growing credibility crisis shaking society, business, and professional services. Learn how declining trust in experts and institutions is reshaping decision-making. Featuring data from Edelman, Pew, Gartner, and Deloitte, this episode offers actionable strategies to rebuild trust and drive lasting success.
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Jan 25, 2025 • 44min
How Firms and Software Companies Can Drive Business Together with Patrick Ferdig, CEO of Power of Partnering
Many of the fastest-growing firms are deeply embedded within software ecosystems. Patrick joins the show to explore the secret sauce that makes a partner strategy work.
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Jan 10, 2025 • 40min
The Tercera 30 Market Movers and Partners with Bill Magnuson, Co-Founder and CEO of Braze, and Michael Burton, Co-Founder and CEO of Stitch
What does a great software + services firm partnership even look like? Bill Magnuson of Braze and Michael Burton of Stitch show us, real-time.
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Jan 4, 2025 • 47min
A Peek Inside The Tercera 30 with Chris Barbin and Michelle Swan
Chris and Michelle join us to talk about Tercera’s strategic investments in thought leadership and break down the release of the firm’s research, the Tercera 30.
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Dec 20, 2024 • 49min
2025 Marketing and Growth Priorities. Are They New or Evergreen?
From changing regulations to AI and finding better ways to connect with clients, Jeff and Jason set strategic priorities for professional services firms in 2025.
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Dec 10, 2024 • 52min
CROs, CCOs, CXOs? The Changing Role of the CMO with Denise Dahlhoff of The Conference Board
There are some new members hanging around the C-Suite of a lot of corporations. How’d they get there and why? Denise Dahlhoff shares her latest research unpacking the trend and what it means.
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Nov 22, 2024 • 47min
Winning the Battle for Mindshare When the Competitor is a Bot
AI is changing both how clients seek solutions to problems and how they vet firms to hire. Jeff and Jason wrestle with these changes and offer a clear path forward for firm leaders and marketers.
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Nov 8, 2024 • 48min
Marketing Channels: Which Ones are the Right Ones for Your Firm
SEO, podcasts, conferences, advertorials, blogs … so many marketing channels to choose from. But which ones are right for MY firm?
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Oct 25, 2024 • 48min
Why People Don’t Understand Data and What to Do About It with Bill Shander
Data visualiation expert Bill Shander joins the show to talk about why people don’t understand data, how to increase the data literacy of your teams, and how to shape a compelling POV using data.
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