
Nerd Marketing
The Nerd Marketing Ecommerce Podcast is a series of conversations about growing an ecommerce business. It's by CEOs and CMOs for CEOs and CMOs. Ecommerce veterans and 20-year operators Drew Sanocki and Michael Epstein deliver clear, actionable, data-driven strategies.
Latest episodes

May 8, 2024 • 33min
Masterclass in eCom-Economics + Finance with Bill D'Alessandro of Natural Dog
The Turnaround legends, Drew Sanocki and Michael Epstein, are joined by Bill D'Alessandro of Natural Dog to talk buying brands, the perils and rewards of retail, eCom-economics + finance, and the earlier days of eCommerce.

Dec 1, 2023 • 20min
How to Get Customers to Buy Without Discounting
Every brand wants to be Apple, and they can be—at least when it comes to avoiding discounts. In this episode, PostPilot CEOs Drew Sanocki and Michael Epstein discuss discounting alternatives that ecommerce brands can use to juice sales while preserving profit margins.

Nov 16, 2023 • 27min
Building a Big Brand with a Small Team with Matt Mullenax of Huron
Men’s grooming brand Huron has become a phenomenon with a team of just four. Co-founder and CEO Matt Mullenax joins hosts Drew Sanocki and Michael Epstein to discuss maniacal focus, the importance of brand, and why Huron isn’t rushing to get into retail. CPG founders and marketers won’t want to miss this episode.

Nov 9, 2023 • 26min
Thinking Outside the Black Friday Box with Luke McAlpine of Taylor Stitch
The VP of brand for cult menswear label Taylor Stitch joins Drew Sanocki and Michael Epstein to go deep on Black Friday strategies. They talk about why you should think hard about your holiday objectives, how promos can be dangerous to your financial health, why you should have a plan B (and C) ready to roll, and more. This is a conversation you don't want to miss.

Nov 2, 2023 • 24min
Making Your Brand Ubiquitous with Katie Hanna of Ka’Chava
How do you stand out in a crowded market? What propelled Ka’Chava’s growth from startup to nine-figure brand? And how are they strategizing around Black Friday? Katie Hanna, director of retention at Ka’Chava, spills some tea on the rocketship business with hosts Drew Sanocki and Michael Epstein.

Sep 28, 2023 • 29min
Lessons from 45 Black Fridays in Ecommerce
Together Drew Sanocki and Michael Epstein been through almost 50 Black Fridays. In this episode, they share the big, hard lessons they've learned over the years—not the tactical moves, but principles for winning Black Friday/Cyber Monday. Tune in to learn why brands often lose money on offers, how to avoid bleeding cash on high CPCs, and more.

Sep 21, 2023 • 26min
What Successful Ecom Brands Know with Anthony Choe, Founder of Provenance
Why do you need to know your tribe? What makes smart investors buy into an ecommerce business? How should founders approach brand-building? Visionary investor Anthony Choe lets Drew Sanocki and Michael Epstein pick his very large brain. You don’t want to miss the insights in this episode!

Sep 14, 2023 • 21min
Marketing a $100M Brand with Julia Perez, CMO of OWYN
Drew Sanocki and Michael Epstein chat with Julia Perez, CMO of plant-based protein-shake brand OWYN. She shares her route to the C-suite, why retail is much more than a sales channel, the three keys to becoming a nine-figure brand, and how she ID’s job candidates who are trailblazers.

Sep 7, 2023 • 31min
How to Grow a Brand Profitably with Brandon Park of 100 Thieves
Drew Sanocki talks with Brandon Park, CMO of 100 Thieves and former CEO of Homesick, about creating brands, rolling up ecom companies, and always showing a profit.

Aug 31, 2023 • 31min
How to Change an Industry with Morgen Newman, CEO of Cora
Drew Sanocki and guest host Mike Maher talk with Morgen Newman, co-founder of period-care brand Cora, about why he tries to scare potential hires, how to stay premium on Amazon, and what they did to survive a cash crunch.
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