

Therapist Uncensored Podcast
Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD
Ranked as one of Apple’s Top 10 Social Science podcasts, Therapist Uncensored delivers trusted, science-backed insights on mental health and secure relationships. With over 11 million downloads worldwide, this female-led, independent podcast puts you right in the therapy room, making powerful psychological insights accessible and actionable. Co-hosts Sue Marriott, LCSW CGP and Ann Kelley, PhD break down complex ideas into practical wisdom you can use immediately. They’re joined by top neuroscientists, world-renown relationship experts and outside-the-box perspectives to share cutting-edge research and strategies for building stronger connections with yourself and others. Shownotes at www.therapistuncensored.com Transform how you understand your mind, your relationships, and yourself.
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Jan 20, 2026 • 50min
Celebrating 10 Years of TU: Growth, Reflections & the Future (289)
Celebrate a decade of growth and reflection in the mental health podcasting space. Discover how the hosts evolved from experts to learners while bridging research with accessibility. They candidly tackle the complexities of vulnerability, privilege, and the need for diverse voices. Listen as they share insights on challenging conventional narratives and the importance of community support in mental health. This heartfelt homage to their listeners is sprinkled with lessons learned and a commitment to continual inclusivity and learning.

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Jan 6, 2026 • 54min
In Each Other’s Care: Building & Sustaining Healthy Relationships with Stan Tatkin – Replay – (288)
Dr. Stan Tatkin, a clinician and co-founder of the PACT Institute, shares invaluable insights on building and sustaining healthy relationships. He discusses the inevitability of conflict and the importance of repair, advocating for secure functioning partnerships that tackle problems together. Tatkin explores the concept of procedural memory, highlighting how attachment styles influence dynamics, even in polyamorous setups. With practical approaches to ensure healthy interdependence, he sheds light on common relationship pitfalls and emphasizes effective communication.

Dec 16, 2025 • 1h 12min
Improv: Fostering Connection in Challenging Conversations – Replay – (287)
A replay episode from our powerful interview with Lisa Kays on how improv can deepen conversations around tough topics like race and oppression.
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Improv in Therapy and in Life –
Explore the power – and sheer fun – of using improvisation in therapy!
Dr. Ann Kelley and Lisa Kays discuss how improv can deepen conversations around tough topics like race and oppression. They examine white supremacy culture and show how improv values like collaboration, slowing down, and embracing complexity can challenge these norms. Improv fosters creativity, playfulness, and self-reflection to help reduce defensiveness and strengthen relationships in everyday life, at work, or in our closest relationships. By creating a supportive, collaborative environment, improv deepens connections and helps people tap into a wider range of emotions.
“A culture of improvisation is collaborative – it is nature – you cannot do it by yourself.” – Lisa Kays
Time Stamps for Improv in Therapy & Life
03:30 The integration of improv and tough conversations
10:03 The origins of improv and its connection to social justice
14:27 Contrasting white supremacy culture and improv culture
19:20 Questioning cultural norms and valuing relationships
25:29 The power of the ‘And’ in joining and connecting
38:27 The power of improv in building secure relationships
53:25 Embracing creativity and letting go of perfectionism
58:12 Creating a culture of support and collaboration
01:05:04 Applying improv in everyday life
01:09:10 Deepening connections and accessing different emotions
About our Guest for Improv Therapy – Lisa Kays LICSW, LCSW, LCSW-C
Lisa Kays, LICSW, LCSW-C, LCSW, is an independently licensed clinical social worker in Washington, D.C, Maryland, Virginia, Oregon and New Jersey. She obtained her MSW from Catholic University in 2011 and has worked in a variety of clinical settings. Since 2013, she has been in private practice, providing individual, couples and group therapy to adults. She has interest in social work ethic and has published on and leads ethics training on the intersection of technology, social media and social work ethics as well as anti-racism and systemic oppression. Her practice also provides opportunities for other presenters to develop CE trainings on under-taught topics linked to social justice, systemic racism, and oppression. In addition to her traditional psychotherapy work, Lisa was a performing improviser from 2007-2019 and was on the faculty of Washington Improv Theatre from 2008-2016. She developed Washington Improv Theater’s first Improv for Therapist’s class and has offered Improv for Therapists courses, workshops and trainings to individual clinicians, pastors, life coaches, and psychiatrists, as well as clinical agencies. Since its inception, Lisa has trained more than 500 people in the application of improvisation to foster personal growth and stronger and more cohesive groups. Lisa has been invited to lead trainings in improv-informed therapy at the American Academy of Psychotherapists, the Mid-Atlantic Group Psychotherapy Association, the American Group Psychotherapy Association, and at The Psychotherapy Networker, among others. Her work has been featured in The Washington Post and on NBC4. Recently, Lisa launched a humor, humility-infused podcast, “What if Nothing’s Wrong With You?” with co-host Paula D. Atkinson on themes related to therapy, mental health, oppression, patriarchy and how it’s all interconnected.
Resources for Improv Therapy –
Lisa Kay’s – Website & Resources
The Fierce Urgency of Now: Improvisation, Rights, and the Ethics of Cocreation (Improvisation, Community, and Social Practice) – by Fischlin, Daniel; Heble, Ajah; Lipsitz, George
Theater Games – Viola Spolin Resources
Rehearsals for Growth – Website and Educational Resources
Decolonizing Therapy: Oppression, Historical Trauma, and Politicizing Your Practice – book by Jennifer Mullan, PsyD
The Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron – Book and Resources
Free Play: Improvisation in Life and Art – Nachmanovitch, Stephen
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Dec 2, 2025 • 1h 26min
Trailblazers in Love: Understanding & Advocating for the LGBTQ+ Community with Jeff Lutes – Replay – (286)
A replay episode from our powerful interview with Jeff Lutes, this discussion dives into raising families, the evolution of the community, allyship, gender, and the importance of advocacy.
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“There are a lot of therapists that see themselves as affirming, but I think you have to get actively involved in order to be an ally.” – Jeff Lutes
Time Stamps for Advocating for the LGBTQ+ Community
2:00 – Jeff’s anecdotes about religion and sexuality
11:18 – How advocacy can be a thankless job
12:00 – Introduction to the Contemporary Relationships Conference
14:34 – The difference between being trained in accepting versus educated
16:48 – The importance of knowing the correct terminology
20:39 – What we can learn from the polyamorous community
22:58 – Definition of queer and who that represents
24:37 – Let’s talk about pronouns
31:21 – Explanation of dead naming and why it is wrong
42:15 – Conversion therapy research and findings
47:00: Trailblazers in Love, Jeff’s book
Resources for today’s episode Advocating for the LGBTQ+ Community
Jeff Lute’s Website – Information, credentials, presentations and publications
Contemporary Relationships Conference – Conference information and proposals
Get your copy of his book, Trailblazers in Love, here!!
About our Guest – Jeff Lutes, LPC
Jeff specializes in creating collaborative conversations with clients that generate new possibilities for change. Using a postmodern approach, he listens carefully to each client’s story and strives to understand how they might make meaning of themselves, others, and the world around them. He founded the Contemporary Relationships Conference and has presented to audiences around the country, including the American Association of Marriage & Family Therapy, the American Family Therapy Academy, the American Counseling Association, and the Texas Psychological Association. He is also the author of Trailblazers In Love, as well as chapters in three counseling textbooks. Lutes also wrote a children’s book about adoption, deaf culture, and non-traditional families and has been a contributing writer at Bilerico and Therapy Matters.
Beyond Attachment Styles course is available NOW!
Learn how your nervous system, your mind, and your relationships work together in a fascinating dance, shaping who you are and how you connect with others.
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Nov 18, 2025 • 1h 5min
Mind, Body, Heart, Spirit: Embodying Liberation Psychology with Dr. Shena Young – Replay – (285)
A replay episode from our powerful interview with Dr. Shena Young
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“The more that we unlearn, the more that we decolonize our minds, bodies, hearts and spirits” – Dr. Shena Young
Join co-host Sue Marriott and Dr. Shena Young as they dive into liberation psychology and the conflict between intuition and the traditional European model of psychology. Dr. Shena highlights embodying a holistic approach to help heal traumas and deeply root us in our most authentic selves. Whether through connections with nature or the exploration of ancestral traditions, this discussion is enriched with various opportunities to reconnect and liberate our mind, body, heart, and spirit.
About our Guest – Dr. Shena Young (She/Her)
Affectionately known as Dr. Shena (she/her) & spiritually as Iya Osunbunmi Orisasewa, she is a licensed embodiment-focused psychologist–healer, artist, mental health futurist, on-set wellbeing professional, and priestess in the Isese tradition of Ifa. She holds space internationally for individuals, couples, groups, and organizations committed to the ritual of calling themselves back into their bodies as a freedom practice. She owns a private practice, embodied truth healing & psychological services, rooted in Los Angeles, CA where she offers mind–body–heart–spirit care in healing from sexual, racial, intergenerational, and ancestral traumas.
Time Stamps for Embodying Liberation Psychology
1:30 – Dr. Shena’s journey with liberation psychology and decolonization
7:25 – Dr. Shena’s early life and intuition
9:48 – Body language is one of our first languages
18:58 – Understanding the pillars of authenticity
20:52 – Embracing the mind, body, heart, spirit approach
28:21 – Unlearning scarcity and expecting abundance
33:29 – Thinking of currency as seeds
41:37 – New interests in ancient traditions
44:11 – What the act of grounding may look like
51:45 – The decriminalization of psychedelic plant medicines
56:30 – There is power in practicing choice
1:05:01 – Impact of The Color Purple
Resources for today’s episode – Embodying Liberation Psychology
EmbodiedTruthHealing.com – Dr. Shena’s website
Healing Opportunities with Dr. Shena
@EmbodiedTruthHealing – Dr. Shena’s Instagram
Invest in healing programs for BIPOC
Dr. Clenora Hudson-Weems website – Where Dr. Shena first learned about Africana Womanist theory
Body Rites – Dr. Shena’s book. Get your copy!!
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Nov 4, 2025 • 55min
Family Estrangement: The Space Between Love & Self-Protection with Dafna Lender (284)
Dafna Lender, a family therapist and attachment specialist, dives into the heart-wrenching topic of parent-child estrangement. She explores the emotional toll of cutting off family ties and how cultural influences shape these dynamics. Dafna discusses the importance of setting boundaries while maintaining empathy, emphasizing that understanding a parent's history can ease personal hurt. She offers practical strategies for navigating estrangement and highlights the therapeutic challenges and opportunities for fostering healing and hope amidst family complexities.

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Oct 21, 2025 • 1h 4min
Autism in Polyvagal Terms with Dr. Sean Inderbitzen (283)
Dr. Sean Inderbitzen, an autistic psychotherapist and Mayo Clinic researcher, shares his journey and insights into autism and neurodiversity. He breaks down the evolution of autism diagnosis and discusses the term 'disorder' in relation to identity. The conversation pivots to the application of polyvagal theory, emphasizing safety and authentic connection in therapy for autistic individuals. Topics include neuroaffirming therapy, attachment patterns, and practical strategies for healthcare providers to better support neurodivergent clients.

Oct 7, 2025 • 56min
Storytelling as Medicine: Decolonizing Therapy with José Rosario (282)
José Rosario, a clinical psychology scholar and advocate, discusses the power of storytelling for healing in marginalized communities. He shares how embracing intersectional identities enhances empathy and resilience. The conversation delves into dismantling ableism in therapy, the need for therapists to support community healing, and the stark realities of hate-motivated violence. José also emphasizes moving from empathy to actionable support, advocating for representation and structural changes in therapy to empower disabled voices.

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Sep 23, 2025 • 1h 11min
Saving Relationships in a Polarized World: Bill Doherty on Citizen Therapists & Political Healing (281)
In this engaging conversation, Bill Doherty, a Professor Emeritus of Family Social Science and a co-founder of Braver Angels, sheds light on the idea of 'Citizen Therapists.' He delves into discernment counseling for couples navigating political differences and the impactful work of Braver Angels in fostering dialogue. Bill emphasizes the importance of curiosity and respectful boundaries in hard conversations. He shares tools for bridging divides, highlighting values over policies and the need for narratives to foster understanding in our increasingly polarized world.

Sep 16, 2025 • 12min
Bonus – Harnessing “Genius Energy”: The Art of Wise Effort for Growth with Dr. Diana Hill (280)
In this engaging discussion, Dr. Diana Hill, a clinical psychologist and expert in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, shares her insights on harnessing 'genius energy' for personal and professional growth. She discusses the difference between life force energy and anxiety, emphasizing wise energy management. Diana highlights the importance of community resilience and compassionate connections. With fascinating parallels drawn from nature, she inspires listeners to break free from stuck patterns and channel their efforts toward meaningful change.


