

Therapist Uncensored Podcast
Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD
Ranked as one of Apple’s Top 10 Social Science podcasts, Therapist Uncensored delivers trusted, science-backed insights on mental health and secure relationships. With over 11 million downloads worldwide, this female-led, independent podcast puts you right in the therapy room, making powerful psychological insights accessible and actionable. Co-hosts Sue Marriott, LCSW CGP and Ann Kelley, PhD break down complex ideas into practical wisdom you can use immediately. They’re joined by top neuroscientists, world-renown relationship experts and outside-the-box perspectives to share cutting-edge research and strategies for building stronger connections with yourself and others. Shownotes at www.therapistuncensored.com Transform how you understand your mind, your relationships, and yourself.
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Apr 15, 2025 • 16min
Bonus – Disarming the Narcissist: Myths, Truths & Strategies for Healing with Wendy Behary (264)
Wendy Behary, a leading expert on narcissism and founder of The Cognitive Therapy Center of New Jersey, dives deep into the complexities of narcissistic behavior. She clarifies that narcissism exists on a spectrum, debunking common myths along the way. Exploring emotional unmet needs, she highlights how narcissists often struggle with self-awareness. Behary also discusses the cultural implications of narcissism and offers practical strategies to protect mental health while navigating these challenging relationships.

Apr 8, 2025 • 1h 3min
Neuroception and the Evolution of Human Spirit with Kim Barthel (263)
In this engaging discussion, Kim Barthel, an occupational therapist and author specializing in trauma and sensory processing, joins Dr. Ann Kelley. They dive into neuroception, the brain's ability to sense safety without conscious thought. Topics include the evolution of self-compassion, the significance of sensory integration in healing, and the transformative Safe and Sound Protocol. Barthel emphasizes how understanding our own nervous systems can enhance emotional regulation and deepen connections with others.

Mar 25, 2025 • 59min
How Modern Attachment Meets Polyvagal Theory with Dr. Stephen Porges (262)
In this engaging conversation, Dr. Stephen Porges, a distinguished scientist and founder of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium, shares insights on the intersection of modern attachment theory and Polyvagal Theory. He discusses the evolution of attachment and how our nervous systems influence relationships. Porges emphasizes the importance of vocal tone in emotional expression and explores the Safe and Sound Protocol's role in promoting engagement. He also delves into how our bodies communicate emotions and the significance of feeling safe for personal connections.

Mar 18, 2025 • 17min
Bonus – Taking Sexy Back: A Journey to Empowerment with Dr. Alexandra Solomon (261)
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Dr. Ann Kelley and Dr. Alexandra Solomon discuss her book 'Taking Sexy Back,' exploring the intersection of gender and sexuality, the impact of societal messages on women's sexual experiences, and the importance of self-advocacy in relationships. They dive into the complexities of desire, body image, and the influence of patriarchy on both men and women - emphasizing the need for emotional awareness and connection in intimate relationships. Explore the evolving landscape of sexuality across generations and the impact of online dating and pornography on sexual experiences.
"We are taught to serve, to focus on others, but we need to notice our own feelings." - Dr. Alexandra Solomon
Time Stamps for Taking Sexy Back: A Journey to Empowerment with Dr. Alexandra Solomon (261)
02:47 The intersection of gender and sexuality
11:52 Impact of body image on desire
14:52 Patriarchy's influence on men and women
17:55 Emotional complexity in masculinity
28:05 The impact of pornography on sexual experiences
36:45 Embodiment and mindfulness in sexuality
41:50 Exploring pleasure and connection in relationships
About our Guest - Dr. Alexandra Solomon
Alexandra H. Solomon, PhD, is internationally recognized as one of today’s most trusted voices in the world of relationships, and her framework of Relational Self-Awareness has reached millions of people around the globe. A couple therapist, speaker, author, professor, podcast host, and media personality, Dr. Alexandra is passionate about translating cutting-edge research and clinical wisdom into practical tools people can use to bring awareness, curiosity, and authenticity to their relationships. She is a clinician educator and a frequent contributor to academic journals and research, and she translates her academic and therapeutic experience to the public through her popular and vibrant Instagram page, which has garnered over 200K followers. She is an adjunct professor in the School of Education and Social Policy at Northwestern University and is a licensed clinical psychologist in private practice. Her hit podcast, Reimagining Love, has reached listeners across the globe and features high-profile guests from the worlds of therapy, academia, and pop culture. She is the award-winning author of Taking Sexy Back: How to Own Your Sexuality and Create the Relationships You Want, Loving Bravely: 20 Lessons of Self-Discovery to Help You Get the Love You Want, and Love Every Day: 365 Relational Self-Awareness Practices to Help Your Relationship Heal, Grow, and Thrive.
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Special Featured event: Ann and Sue are deep diving into clinical application of their work at the Psychotherapy Networker Symposium - March 20-23, 2025. It's an incredible conference - they'd love to see you there!
Rethinking Attachment – Using the Attachment Spectrum in Clinical Practice
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Mar 11, 2025 • 1h 6min
Beyond Sex: Understanding Desire with Shadeen Francis (260)
Desire is a liberating force
Dr. Ann Kelley and Shadeen Francis, LMFT unpack the intricate nature of desire, extending beyond just the sexual realm. They unpack the challenges in identifying true desires, the role of embodiment in self-awareness, and the key distinction between wanting and liking. Together they discuss intimacy, self-discovery and communication - with an emphasis on the need for negotiation and authentic connection in sexual experiences.
"The simplest of all luxuries is the freedom to pursue your pleasure." - Shadeen Francis
Time Stamps for Beyond Sex: Understanding Desire
05:15 The challenge of identifying desire
17:58 The nuances of wanting vs. liking
25:01 Desire in sexual contexts
35:07 Negotiating wants in relationships
44:41 The impact of technology on desire
56:30 Desire as a tool for liberation
About our Guest - Shadeen Francis, LMFT, CST
Shadeen Francis is a licensed marriage and family psychotherapist and a board-certified sex therapist. Her expertise spans the domains of mental health, emotional intelligence, and the intersection of sexual wellness and social justice. A sought-after voice in her field, Shadeen has been featured on major networks including ABC, NBC, and CBS, and has been the subject matter expert for prominent brands such as Essence, Bumble, Tinder, and Teen Vogue. Shadeen's work extends beyond the therapy room, influencing nationally implemented curricula, global media strategies, and public health policies. Known for her signature brand of warmth and humor, Shadeen’s work is inspired by her commitment to helping people live lives full of peace and pleasure.
Resources for Beyond Sex: Understanding Desire
shadeenfrancis.com - Shadeen's website, resources, and other information
hello@shadeenfrancis.com - The best way to contact Shadeen
@shadeenfrancis - Shadeen's Instagram handle
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Find Upcoming Events here
Featured event: Ann and Sue are deep diving into clinical application of their work at the Psychotherapy Networker Symposium - March 20-23, 2025. It's an incredible conference - they'd love to see you there!
Rethinking Attachment – Using the Attachment Spectrum in Clinical Practice
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Feb 25, 2025 • 1h 5min
Pleasurable Sex, Gender Queerness & Life Burnout with Dr. Emily Nagoski (259)
Dr. Emily Nagoski, an award-winning author and renowned sex educator, dives into an enlightening discussion about pleasure, intimacy, and the evolving landscape of gender identity. She emphasizes the importance of safety and supportive contexts for fostering connection and mutual enjoyment. The conversation addresses the challenges faced by the transgender community, advocating for patient-centered care and societal inclusivity. Nagoski also shares insights on managing burnout and finding meaning in life, reminding us that pleasure should take precedence over rigid societal norms.

Feb 18, 2025 • 17min
Bonus – Disorganized / Unresolved Attachment with Dr. Krista Jordan (258)
Dr. Krista Jordan, an expert in Disorganized Attachment and clinical psychologist based in Austin, joins co-host Sue Marriott for an enlightening discussion. They delve into the complexities of disorganized attachment, sharing personal stories and insights on its manifestation in therapy and everyday life. Topics include the critical role of feedback in fostering self-awareness, the intertwined nature of shame and anger, and therapeutic techniques for addressing unresolved trauma. Discover how these dynamics can shape relationships and self-perception in profound ways.

Feb 11, 2025 • 1h 2min
The Power of Liberation: Courage, Identity & Growth with Pam Benson Owens (257)
Pam Benson Owens, President and CEO of Edge of Your Seat Consulting, brings her expertise in creating healthy organizational cultures to a deep discussion about liberation and personal growth. She emphasizes that liberation is fluid, reflecting on the challenges of navigating systemic issues. Pam explores the importance of self-care in activism, fear's role in DEI work, and the value of having difficult conversations. Together with co-host Sue Marriott, they tackle themes of vulnerability, identity, and the necessity of pacing oneself for sustainable impact.

Jan 28, 2025 • 1h 11min
Rediscovering Play for More Secure Connections with Children – and Adults (256)
Tina Payne Bryson, a clinical psychologist and New York Times bestselling author, joins Georgie Wisen-Vincent, a play therapy expert, to explore the transformative power of play in childhood development. They discuss how play fosters emotional resilience and strengthens the parent-child bond. The conversation addresses common parental resistance to play and offers practical strategies to incorporate fun into daily life. Listeners learn how playful interactions can enhance emotional growth and foster secure attachments, empowering both kids and parents.

Jan 14, 2025 • 1h 1min
Family Estrangement, Spiritual Harm & the Ethics of AI in Therapy with Matthias Barker (255)
Matthias Barker, a psychotherapist and CEO of the Trauma Institute, discusses the complexities of family estrangement and the emotional dynamics at play. He sheds light on the deep impacts of spiritual harm, emphasizing the need for healing and understanding patterns inherited from parents. The conversation also dives into the ethical dilemmas of using AI in therapy, highlighting concerns about maintaining human connection amidst technological advancements. It's a thought-provoking exploration of relationships and the future of mental health.