

No Cap by CRE Daily
CRE Daily
Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate.
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Apr 6, 2025 • 59min
How Spencer Burton Accidentally Built the #1 Real Estate Resource
Season 2, Episode 10: In this episode of the No Cap Podcast, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik sit down with Spencer Burton, co-founder of Adventures in CRE and CRE Agents, to explore how technology and innovation are transforming the real estate industry.
With years of experience in real estate, Spencer shares how he revolutionized the field by creating essential financial modeling tools used by thousands and pioneering AI-powered digital coworkers. From his early days as an analyst to founding AC and now leading CR Agents, Spencer gives us an insider's view of the future of real estate, where automation and digital entities will take on repetitive tasks and allow professionals to elevate their work.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Introduction
04:00 - Community & Free Models
12:34 - The ACR Project & Accelerator Program
18:21 - Land Brokerage & Panama
24:26 - Time, Growth & Consulting
31:54 - Stablewood & Tech
40:34 - Vertical AI Platforms & Digital Coworkers
48:10 - AI Future & Fun
We want to thank our sponsor Greysteel.
For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily
About No Cap Podcast
Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate.
About CRE Daily
CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

Mar 30, 2025 • 1h 12min
KBS CEO Reveals SECRET to Office Success
Season 2, Episode 9: In this episode of the No Cap Podcast, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik sit down with Marc DeLuca, CEO of KBS, to explore how the firm has navigated the ever-changing landscape of office real estate.
With over 30 years of experience in the industry, Marc has managed billions of dollars in real estate across the Eastern U.S. and Mid-Atlantic regions, overseeing some of the most strategic acquisitions in the office sector. He shares the secrets to KBS’s success, from innovative office amenities to a renewed focus on tenant relationships.
Learn how KBS has continued to excel in the office space market despite the challenges posed by COVID-19, economic uncertainty, and shifting workplace trends.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 – Introduction
09:53 – Shifting Focus & Challenges
19:44 – Tenant Support & Interest Rates
25:22 – Return to Office & Recovery
35:14 – Leasing Demand & Corporate Moves
43:33 – Financing in Uncertain Times
49:35 – Top Markets & KBS Adaptation
57:02 – Innovative Amenities & Trends
We want to thank our sponsor Greysteel.
For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily
About No Cap Podcast
Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate.
About CRE Daily
CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

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Mar 23, 2025 • 48min
How AI is Making CRE Brokers More Efficient Than Ever w/ Albert Lojko
Albert Lojko, CEO of Lightbox, shares insights on how AI is revolutionizing the commercial real estate (CRE) sector by organizing and digitizing fragmented data. He discusses how technology streamlines transactions and enhances collaboration, making life easier for brokers and investors. Hear about innovative solutions for automating appraisals and document generation, as well as the importance of data integrity amidst the rapid advancement of AI. Lojko emphasizes the need for integrated systems to optimize decision-making in a competitive landscape.

Mar 16, 2025 • 1h 3min
Building the Largest Privately Owned Self-Storage Company w/ Cris Burnam
Season 2, Episode 7: On this episode of the No Cap Podcast, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik are joined by Cris Burnham, CEO of StorageMart, the world’s largest privately owned self-storage company. Cris shares the journey from his father's humble real estate beginnings to growing StorageMart into a multibillion-dollar empire, including the $3.2B acquisition of Manhattan Mini Storage.
Cris dives into the industry's evolution, from strategic partnerships to adaptive reuse and technological advancements, and discusses the ongoing challenges facing the self-storage sector—like declining home sales and market saturation.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 – Introduction
0:26 -- Cris Burnam's Journey with Storage Mart
06:08 – Hostile Takeover and Major Acquisition
13:36 – The $7.5 Billion Self-Storage Partnership
25:10 – Adaptive Reuse of Office Spaces for Self-Storage
33:18 – Iconic Billboard Strategy
37:34 – Declining Home Sales and Storage Auctions
45:03 – International Self-Storage Growth
54:50 – The Future of Self-Storage and Market Shifts
We want to thank our sponsor Greysteel.
For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily
About No Cap Podcast
Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate.
About CRE Daily
CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

Mar 9, 2025 • 36min
Barron Trump’s First Real Estate Deal? Plus, Tax Hacks & Multifamily w/ Omar Khan
Season 2, Episode 6: In this episode of No Cap Podcast, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik are joined by Omar Khan, founder of Boardwalk Wealth. Omar brings over $3.7B in capital financing and M&A experience, along with a track record of raising over $50 million in equity. He shares his journey from investment banking to commercial real estate, giving us valuable insights into his successful deals and why strategic partnerships and tax efficiency are crucial for multifamily investments.
But the conversation doesn’t stop there.
We also dive into some of the most talked-about real estate news of the moment: Baron Trump’s real estate ambitions, the Fed’s ongoing interest rate decisions, and how the multifamily market is being shaped by inflation, tariffs, and other key market factors.
CHAPTERS:
0:00 – Introduction
2:30 – Baron Trump’s Real Estate Move
5:30 – Baron Trump Entering Real Estate
10:00 – Trump’s Legacy & Policies
15:00 – Impact of Interest Rates on Real Estate
18:00 – Mortgage Rates & Buyer Impact
23:00 – North Dakota Tax Breaks & Appeal
26:00 – Investing in Secondary Markets
32:00 – Real Estate Strategies for Smaller Markets
We want to thank our sponsor Greysteel.
For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily
About No Cap Podcast
Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate.
About CRE Daily
CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

Mar 7, 2025 • 1h 5min
What's Behind Crow Holdings MASSIVE $33 Billion Real Estate Empire
Season 2, Episode 5: In this episode of No Cap by CRE Daily, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik sit down with Michael Levy, CEO of Crow Holdings, one of the most influential real estate companies in the world. Michael shares his personal journey and the history of Crow Holdings, diving deep into their innovative approach to real estate, sustainability, and expansion into energy and mass timber development.
They discuss Crow’s legacy, how the company is revolutionizing construction, and how its commitment to long-term environmental impact is shaping the future of the real estate industry.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Introduction
02:08 - Dallas vs. New York
05:33 - Moving to Dallas and Joining Crow
10:42 - Crow Holdings Legacy and Culture
17:17 - The Old Parkland Campus
23:09 - Expansion into Energy & Timber
30:02 - Multifamily & Industrial Development Focus
40:28 - Industrial Market Trends
50:35 - Sustainability & Innovation in Real Estate
55:58 - Leadership Approach at Crow Holdings
01:00:22 - AI and Tech in Real Estate
01:05:11 - Career Advice & Success Insights
We want to thank our sponsor Greysteel.
For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily
About No Cap Podcast
Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate.
About CRE Daily
CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

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Feb 23, 2025 • 52min
What It Takes To Be A Successful Broker In NYC w/ Bob Knakal
In this engaging discussion, Bob Knakal, Chairman and CEO of BK Real Estate Advisors and one of NYC's top brokers, shares his inspiring journey in real estate. He emphasizes the criticality of market knowledge and strategic prospecting for success. Knakal also explores the unique aspects of the New York market, offering practical advice for aspiring brokers. Additionally, he highlights the transformative role of social media in expanding reach and building a professional legacy in an increasingly competitive landscape.

Feb 16, 2025 • 37min
C-PACE Financing: The Best-Kept Secret in Real Estate?
Season 2, Episode 3: C-PACE Financing: The Best-Kept Secret in Real Estate?
In this episode of No Cap by CRE Daily, hosts Alex Gornik and Jack Stone are joined by Robbie Pinkas, Senior Vice President of PACE Loan Group. They dive into the world of C-PACE financing, explaining how it works and how it can fund energy-efficient improvements, making your property more sustainable and valuable.
They also discuss how C-PACE fits into the broader financing landscape, its differences from traditional loans, and why it's important to fully understand the details before jumping in. If you’re wondering whether C-PACE financing is the right fit for your next project, this episode has everything you need to know!
CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Introduction
3:23 - Barry Stern's Return of Starwood Hotels
10:11 - Chrysler Building Leasehold Loss
15:31 - Loan Modifications and Financing Trends
19:47 - What is C-PACE Financing?
26:57 - Sound Stage in St. Louis
29:36 - Downtown LA Office Tower
36:17 - Getting in Touch with Robbie Pinkas
We want to thank our sponsor Greysteel.
For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily
About No Cap Podcast
Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate.
About CRE Daily
CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

Feb 9, 2025 • 49min
Is Converting Old Offices into Apartments THE BEST Solution to Housing Shortages?
In this conversation, Anoop Dave, co-founder of Victrix Investment, shares his expertise in transforming old office spaces into vibrant residential communities. He discusses the rising trend of adaptive reuse as a solution to housing shortages, shedding light on the civic support needed and the federal government's role. Anoop also addresses the challenges of converting offices in urban areas like NYC, highlighting success stories and the financial hurdles developers face, all while emphasizing the long-term benefits of such projects for communities.

Feb 2, 2025 • 52min
Fannie & Freddie’s Future, Trump’s 2025 Policies & LA's Insurance Crisis
Season 2, Episode 1: No Cap by CRE Daily is back and we're kicking things off with a deep dive into the biggest headlines shaping commercial real estate in 2025.
Fannie & Freddie might finally go private—but what does that mean for mortgages, multifamily lending, and the housing market? Trump’s 2025 policies could bring major changes, and soaring insurance costs from LA wildfires are hitting property values hard.
Join our hosts Alexander Gornik and Jack Stone as they break it all down
TOPICS
0:00 – Introduction
02:15 – Will Fannie & Freddie Go Private?
06:09 – What Happens If Fannie & Freddie Go Private?
10:45 – How Privatization Could Impact Homeowners & Investors
16:20 – Trump’s 2025 Real Estate Policies
20:57 – Will the U.S. Sell Off Federal Real Estate?
28:46 – Hot Rental Markets in 2025
35:39 – Wildfires, Insurance Crisis & Falling Property Values
43:47 – The Biggest Real Estate Loans of 2024
50:10 – 2025 Market Predictions
We want to thank our sponsor Greysteel.
For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily
About No Cap Podcast
Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate.
About CRE Daily
CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.