CHAOSScast

Researchers discuss their experiences with CHAOSS metrics and software, emphasizing standardization for consistency. They explore challenges in metric definitions, bridging academia and industry, and the importance of collaboration. The podcast also touches on data privacy, cultural context in data analysis, and the impact of CHAOSS metrics on open-source communities.

Thank you to the folks at Sustain for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! In this collaboration between the CHAOSS Cast and Mechanical Ink podcasts, hosts Dawn Foster and Schalk Neethling are joined by guests Daniel Izquierdo and Sean Goggins to discuss open source community health metrics. The focus is on providing an overview of two projects under the CHAOSS (Community Health Analytics for Open Source Software) umbrella - GrimoireLab and Augur. These open source tools gather data from diverse sources and analyze it to provide insights into open-source community health. The episode brings together two fascinating open source projects - GrimoireLab and Augur - that aim to provide insights into the health of open-source software communities. By gathering data from various platforms and channels, and analyzing contributor activity, issues, pull requests, and conversations, these projects shine a light on the inner workings of open-source projects. You have Sean Goggins, a university researcher who co-created Augur to dissect community interactions at scale. Then you have Daniel Izquierdo whose startup Bitergia built GrimoireLab to offer open source analytics as a service. Both share insightful stories on the evolving landscape of inner source and metrics-driven community management. It's a great listen for anyone involved in running open-source projects or communities. Beyond project leads, the conversation also touches on why understanding community health is vital today for enterprise adopters to track their dependencies and influence. And as Dawn Foster from CHAOSS chips in, you get an important reminder to not get carried away chasing tools without clarity on what specific questions you want answered from the underlying data. Overall, a stimulating mix of history and future direction on using metrics to guide open-source communities toward greater sustainability. Guests Daniel Izquierdo: Co-founder and CEO of Bitergia, co-founder of CHAOSS, President of InnerSource Commons Sean Goggins: Professor of Computer Science at the University of Missouri, maintainer of Augur software package in CHAOSS Key Topics Discussed Origins and goals of the CHAOSS project Overview of GrimoireLab Overview of Augur Supporting analysis across diverse data sources Focus areas and roadmaps Getting involved in the projects Links Mentioned CHAOSS (chaoss.community) GrimoireLab (grimoirelab.github.io) Augur (augurlabs.io) Cauldron instance (cauldron.io) Public Augur instance (metrics.chaoss.io) OSS Compass (oss.compass.community) Special Guest: Schalk Neethling.Support CHAOSScast

Join the panelists from various universities as they discuss the relationship between open source software and university missions, the role of libraries in supporting OSS, and the collaborative culture fostering community and innovation. They explore the challenges and promises of developing universities OSPOs and highlight the potential of OSS in enhancing educational experiences and research output.

In this episode, Dawn Foster hosts a discussion with three guests from Microsoft's Open Source Programs Office: Emma Irwin, James Siri, and Justin Gosses. They talk about how Microsoft measures the health of open source communities, their experiences with the CHAOSS Community, and the critical role of open source within the organization. Topics include metrics, tackling security issues, the value of open source contributions, and tracking and improving processes at Microsoft.

The CHAOSS Project's goals for 2024 and beyond include establishing metrics as international standards, growing the user and contributor communities, rethinking metrics in open source projects, and reflecting on vanity metrics. The speakers also discuss the importance of community engagement and share personal experiences with books and fascinating discoveries.

Anita Ihuman, a developer advocate and technical writer, discusses the usage and effectiveness of DEI metrics in open source communities, including surprising findings such as lack of codes of conduct and DEI as a myth in some projects. They highlight projects using DEI metrics like Apache Traffic Control and emphasize the importance of implementing DEI metrics to enhance inclusivity. The speakers also share personal anecdotes at the end of the podcast.

Panelists Sean Goggins, Yehui Wang, Mike Nolan, and Cali Dolfi discuss the CHAOSS software, Augur, and GrimoireLab. They delve into projects like Augur, OSS Compass, and Project Aspen's 8Knot. The discussion explores the role of CHAOSS software in open source and community health, data visualization, and the transformative potential of Mystic's prototype software for academic contributions. Exciting future projects and the value of diverse perspectives are also highlighted.

The podcast discusses the Linux Foundation Research OSS Maintainers Report, exploring topics such as obtaining a representative sample in open source research, the bias toward technical contributors, and the importance of considering long-term engagement of contributors. They also touch upon best practices, including documentation and diversity, and how these practices can be connected across different categories.

Thank you to the folks at Sustain for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 72 In this episode, our host, Matt Germonprez, is joined by Dawn Foster from the CHAOSS Community, Sophia Vargas from Google, and Gary White from Verizon. Today, they dive into the crucial topic of assessing the viability of open source projects for adoption within organizations. The discussion covers the intricacies of evaluating project viability, the challenges of project failure, and the necessity of continuous assessments. The panelists provide valuable insights on mitigating risks, leveraging metrics, and the importance of active engagement within open source communities. This episode offers a wealth of knowledge and practical advice for navigating the world of open source software. Download this episode now to hear more! [00:02:13] The discussion begins on the importance of assessing the viability of open source projects for adoption within organizations. Gary emphasizes the need to formalize the assessment of open source project viability beyond just technical metrics, Sophia stresses the importance of rigor in evaluating open source tools due to the lower barrier to adoption, and Dawn points out the importance of context, where the viability assessment depends on how the project is used within the organization. [00:06:32] The conversation shifts to when an open source project fails or changes significantly within an organization. Dawn discusses the challenges and uncertainty companies face when an open source project becomes unusable due to license changes or discontinuation, Sophia highlights the complexities and burdens of change management when a project fails, and Gary mentions the negative impact on morale and the time-consuming nature of dealing with project failures. [00:10:55] Sophia discusses the challenges in communication between project leaders and end users, particularly when projects are consumed through third-party package managers. Gary highlights the challenge of getting project leaders and developers motivated to assess project viability and the need for data-driven metrics to facilitate communication between leadership and implementation teams. [00:13:09] Dawn stresses the importance of continuous assessments of open source project viability rather than treating it as a one-time task. [00:14:06] How do we assess if a project is good? Dawn discusses her historical approach to assessing open source projects, which included manual assessments. [00:16:31] Gary emphasizes the common practice of engineers making quick project choices without thorough assessments due to the ease of finding solutions online. [00:19:41] Sophia highlights the importance of considering how a project is used within the organization and the strategic implications of choosing open source projects, especially in large organizations. [00:21:50] Matt asks about monitoring and mitigating risks when using open source projects that may not be ideal from a viability perspective but are popular. Dawn acknowledges that project viability is not binary and can vary in terms of risk, suggesting that contributing to open source projects can mitigate risks. [00:22:56] Gary emphasizes the importance of becoming engaged and active members of open source communities to gain insight into project changes and mitigate potential risks. [00 24:15] Sophia highlights the role of metrics and monitoring in risk mitigation, mentioning that tracking certain information may not be easy but it is crucial. Dawn notes the lack of ongoing viability monitoring and suggests the need for more sophisticated approaches. [00:26:37] Gary agrees that monitoring is essential and mentions a metric called “lib year” to track the age of dependencies as an example of monitoring for open source projects, and he discusses the importance of automated recommendations within software scanning tools to help users make informed decisions about dependencies. [00:28:27] Sophia addresses the challenge of scale when dealing with many open source projects, emphasizing the need to adapt monitoring and risk mitigation approaches based on the organization’s portfolio size. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:30:15] Matt’s pick is running in the dark on cool mornings. [00:30:33] Dawn’s pick is hanging out with people when she was at the Open Source Summit in Bilbao, Spain. [00:31:03] Sophia’s pick is joining an orchestra a few months ago. [00:31:41] Gary’s pick is having pumpkin spice back in his life. *Panelists: * Matt Germonprez Dawn Foster Sophia Vargas Gary White Links: CHAOSS CHAOSS Project Twitter CHAOSScast Podcast podcast@chaoss.community Ford Foundation Georg Link Twitter Matt Germonprez Twitter Dawn Foster Twitter Sophia Vargas Twitter Gary White LinkedIn libyear OSS Project Viability Metrics Models: OSS Project Viability: Community OSS Project Viability: Compliance + Security OSS Project Viability: Governance OSS Project Viability: Strategy Special Guest: Gary White.Support CHAOSScast

The CHAOSScast team discusses the relaunch of the podcast and focuses on the development of metrics and metric models in the Chaos Project. They highlight the importance of understanding context, consolidating metrics, and categorizing them for accessibility. The podcast also covers the evolution of Auger and updates in Grimoir Lab, data management and enrichment in CHAOSS, community growth and initiatives, and moments of joy.