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Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today’s episode is a shared podcast between Sustain and CHAOSS. We have six panelists to talk about maintaining open source and we’ll also do a quick update from a previous episode and talk about what has changed and what maintaining open source looks like today. The panelists we have are Georg Link, Richard Littauer, Dawn Foster, Willem Jiang, Amanda Casari, and Ben Nickolls. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:19] The six panelists introduce themselves. [00:04:45] Richard details more about what Sustain is, Georg and Dawn explain CHAOSS and what’s going on there, and Amanda shares what she likes about CHAOSS. [00:13:56] Dawn talks about the kind of community members CHAOSS has, Willem tells us about the Asia community, and Ben shares his views on the Sustain community. [00:20:04] Georg asks if there’s been any updates on the funding situation in open source and if anything has changed there and Ben updates us. [00:24:14] When thinking about resources, who gets paid, how money flows, and how we identify when help is needed, Amanda wonders how that’s changed in the last few years in the CHAOSS community. [00:26:34] Richard shares from his angle what he’s seen about what has changed in the past two years in open source. [00:28:33] Ben shares his views on the supply chain conversation about who is making money in open source. [00:30:36] Since security is such a hot topic, Georg asks if we’re prepared in all the open source projects to really focus on this topic or if we have to upskill everyone, and we hear Ben’s thoughts on this. [00:32:27] Richard explains how you can get involved in Sustain happenings that are going on, and Georg and Dawn inform us about some projects, working groups, and other things going on with CHAOSS. [00:40:42] Find out where you can get involved with Sustain and CHAOSS. Spotlights/Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:35:46] Georg’s pick is meeting with an online local group and doing cool things together. [00:36:31] Richard’s pick is going on a super long hike and buying a hydration pack (CamelBak Pouch). [00:37:21] Dawn’s spotlight is GraphiQL. [00:37:59] Ben’s spotlights are taking care of Swifts on his roof, and the book, Swifts and Us: The Life of the Bird that Sleeps in the Sky. [00:38:21] Amanda’s pick is the book, Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle. [00:39:29] Willem’s pick is ApacheCon Asia 2022. Panelists: Georg Link Richard Littauer Dawn Foster Willem Jiang Amanda Casari Ben Nickolls Sponsor: SustainOSS Links: CHAOSS CHAOSS Project Twitter CHAOSScast Podcast CHAOSS Community Participate podcast@chaoss.community SustainOSS SustainOSS Twitter SustainOSS Discourse Sustain Podcast podcast@sustainoss.org Ford Foundation Georg Link Twitter Richard Littauer Twitter Dawn Foster Twitter Willem Jiang Twitter Amanda Casari Twitter Ben Nickolls Twitter Sustain Podcast-Episode 65: CHAOSS and Sustain: A Joint Podcast Ecosyste.ms xkcd Executive Order on Improving the Nation’s Cybersecurity (The White House) Sustain 2021 Event Report Mozilla-Open Source Archetypes: A Framework For Purposeful Open Source May 2018 SonarQube CamelBak Crux 3-Liter Water Reservoir GraphiQL Swifts and Us: The Life of the Bird that Sleeps in the Sky by Sarah Gibson Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle by Emily Nagoski, PhD and Amelia Nagoski, DMA ApacheCon Asia 2022 Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software by Nadia Eghbal Special Guests: Amanda Casari, Benjamin Nickolls, Richard Littauer, and Willem Jiang.Support CHAOSScast

Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. We are super excited to have as our guest, Richard Millington, who’s the Founder of FeverBee and author of Build Your Community. Today, we’ll be talking with Richard about communities, metrics, and what FeverBee does for organizations. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:31] Richard introduces himself, he tells us about FeverBee, and how he got into the field of communities. [00:06:11] How did Richard move Seth and a lot of his clients into the headspace of being community first and what a community could do for his brands? [00:12:29] Richard dives into the topic of convince and persuade. [00:16:22] We hear Richard’s thoughts on how to set goals for community or for existing communities that are out there today. [00:19:26] When you find what your goals are for engaging a community, Georg wonders how to do this authentically without overriding what everyone else is already doing in the community, and Richard tells us how they approach it. [00:25:02] We learn from Richard the way to go about understanding what matters for your community and finding the right goals. [00:29:10] When it comes to open source communities, Richard shares suggestions of where to begin when people are trying to figure out what goals to set. [00:30:56] Georg asks Richard if he’s ever done a workshop in an asynchronous way over mailing lists or slack where you didn’t require everyone to be in the same room at the same time for the workshop. [00:31:55] We hear about setting targets based upon prior data or data that already exists, and Richard explains a problem in plucking metrics from thin air. [00:36:53] Find out where you can follow Richard on the internet. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:37:46] Georg’s pick is enjoying their backyard pool. [00:39:24] Richard’s pick is his girlfriend’s cat finally likes him. [00:40:31] Venia’s pick is the importance of travel. Panelists: Georg Link Venia Logan Guest: Richard Millington Sponsor: SustainOSS Links: CHAOSS CHAOSS Project Twitter CHAOSScast Podcast podcast@chaoss.community Ford Foundation Georg Link Twitter Venia Logan Twitter Richard Millington Twitter Richard Millington LinkedIn FeverBee Build Your Community by Richard Millington Richard’s Blog- “How to Set the Right Targets and Build a Great Community Dashboard” Richard’s Blog- “Have You Prepared Your Community for These Powerful Trends?” Special Guest: Richard Millington.Support CHAOSScast

Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Venia is super excited about this episode because you may know our guests from around the community. Today, we have Brian Oblinger, Senior Vice President of New Products at Commsor, and Lori Goldman, Community Manager at ForgeRock. Our conversations touch on how Brian and Lori found themselves in community and their experiences with measuring community health over the years. We also learn about some start-ups in the community, what CMX has done in the community, where the community is going in a post 2022 world, and some projects Lori and Brian are working on. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:11] Brian and Lori share their stories on how they found themselves in community and measuring community health. [00:04:58] We hear about some start-ups such as Commsor, Orbit, and Common Room. [00:06:24] Lori and Brian talk about their experiences with measuring community health over the years. [00:10:26] Venia wonders how we’re supposed to bring businesses back into the discussion about measurement marketing, and Brian explains it’s about understanding who you’re talking to and understanding their language and Lori mentions monetizing it. [00:13:05] Lori speaks about the conversation about metrics and the wrapping in of community and CMX. [00:18:08] Venia explains her take on managing metrics, and Lori and Brian share some thoughts. [00:20:06] We find out how this community measurement is going to look like in a post-2022, post pandemic, and the problems that need to be solved. [00:24:23] Lori brings up the interconnection between community and developer relations and how do we work best with that function since it’s so important, and Brian and Venia share their thoughts. [00:27:56] Find out what Lori and Brian are doing as far as projects in the next six months to a year with community metrics. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:31:12] Brian’s picks are a meeting series built by Tiffany Oda and Cassie Mayes called Community OPServations and subscribing to MasterClass. [00:32:29] Lori’s picks are Duolingo to learn Spanish and to start a personal podcast. [00:34:08] Venia’s pick is an information diet campaign she put together. Panelist: Venia Logan Guests: Brian Oblinger Lori Goldman Sponsor: SustainOSS Links: CHAOSS CHAOSS Project Twitter CHAOSScast Podcast podcast@chaoss.community Ford Foundation Venia Logan Twitter Brian Oblinger Website Brian Oblinger Twitter Brian Oblinger LinkedIn Lori Goldman LinkedIn ForgeRock Commsor Orbit Common Room CMX Summit 2022 Community OPServations MasterClass Duolingo The Information Diet: A Case for Conscious Consumption by Clay A. Johnson How to go on an information diet by Anne-Laure Le Cunff (Ness Labs) Special Guests: Brian Oblinger and Lori Goldman.Support CHAOSScast

Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, our special guest is Matt Van Itallie, who’s the Founder and CEO of Sema, a software company focused on code quality. Today, we find out about Sema’s tools, one being an analytics tool to understand open source, the other one helps developers build a portfolio of their work, and we learn how these tools relate to the work CHAOSS is doing. Also, Matt goes in depth about “code is a craft,” using Sonar for Linting, and ScanCode, and some things he would like to make better in the future. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:42] Matt tells us his background and what brought him to CHAOSS. [00:03:17] We hear Matt’s thoughts on the various paradoxes and complexities when evaluating code quality in open source, Sean asks Matt if anyone has cataloged the available Linters, and we hear about an open source project called ScanCode. [00:07:21] Sean brings up the language agnostic code quality analysis tool, and Matt explains how it works, what the benefits are, and some constraints that he’s discovered in his work. [00:09:54] Georg wonders how detailed Matt gets looking at the process analysis. [00:12:37] Matt talks about explaining quality measurement to executives and non-technical executives. [00:15:19] Since security is always a concern, Sean tells us about a challenge they have in the Risk working group at CHAOSS with identifying various declared recognized risks, and Matt explains how this relates to the work he’s doing. [00:21:10] Georg wonders if there’s anything Matt wants to make better in the future and if the CHAOSS Community can help him with it. He explains an automated tool to understand the health of the guild. [00:26:40] Matt talks about a tool from Sema that makes it easier and faster to write code reviews and using ScanCode. [00:29:33] Find out where you can follow Matt online. Quote: [00:19:29] “Code is a craft means that creators matter a ton because there’s so much institutional knowledge in their heads about how things fit together and the meaning of it. Crafts people create meaning that is incredibly hard to transfer.” Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:30:29] Georg’s pick is moving into a new house. [00:30:46] Matt’s pick are two extraordinary open source community leaders, Kunal and Eddie. [00:31:30] Sean’s picks are being back on his bicycle, TREK 520 with Schwalbe tires, and to thank Google, Red Hat, and VMware for all the support they’ve provided for CHAOSS Project. Panelists: Georg Link Sean Goggins Guest: Matt Van Itallie Sponsor: SustainOSS Links: CHAOSS CHAOSS Project Twitter CHAOSScast Podcast podcast@chaoss.community Ford Foundation Georg Link Twitter Sean Goggins Twitter Matt Van Itallie Twitter Matt Van Itallie LinkedIn Sema Sonar ScanCode toolkit-GitHub Kunal Kushwaha Twitter Eddie Jaoude Twitter TREK 520 Schwalbe tires Special Guest: Matt Van Itallie.Support CHAOSScast

Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, Venia, Don, and Sean are having a panel discussion about the juicy news with Google Analytics, the history of it, their experience with it over the years, and the future of metrics. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:47] Don, Sean, and Venia share their experiences with Google Analytics. [00:03:45] Venia announces the big news about Google Analytics and we hear about the history of Google Analytics. [00:13:47] Sean asks if the folks who were invisible to the conventional Analytics become a prototype of what people have in terms of tools and power under the new Google, and Venia explains “dark data.” [00:16:25] Don talks about the global privacy control you have to do for handling personal data in California and the California Detector. [00:17:32] Venia talks about what happened in 2016 with GDPR. [00:19:29] Where does Google Analytics new platform fit into this problem space? [00:22:46] Sean asks if we are anthropomorphizing his smart fridge if it’s connected to the internet and if it now has a right to be forgotten, and Venia and Don respond. [00:27:37] Don explains about how we put a lot of emphasis on privacy changes but arbitrary policy changes by big platforms also have a big impact, and we learn how much will be handled by JavaScript Frameworks and development tools down the road. [00:30:54] Venia wonders how much of a nightmare this transition will be, and what it will look like for the business owner, the end user, and for Google. [00:36:24] What are the implications for people who buy and sell these ads by the thousand and what are the implications for the consumer? [00:40:30] We hear about a new group called the Private Advertising Technology Community Group and what they do. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:41:25] Don’s pick is The Flask Mega-Tutorial. [00:43:23] Venia’s pick is working in her sketchbook. [00:43:56] Sean’s pick is getting outside to ride his bicycle. Panelists: Venia Logan Don Marti Sean Goggins Sponsor: SustainOSS Links: CHAOSS CHAOSS Project Twitter CHAOSScast Podcast podcast@chaoss.community Ford Foundation Flask Mega-Tutorial Update: Flask 2.0 and more! By Miguel Grinberg News: Google Sunsetting Universal Analytics in 2023 Europe’s Move Against Google Analytics Is Just the Beginning UPDATE: CNIL decides EU-US data transfer to Google Analytics illegal Website fined by German court for leaking visitor’s IP address via Google Fonts State Laws Related to Digital Privacy Problems Persist With Google’s Privacy Sandbox Proposals as Trials Open Case Studies: How Target Figured Out A Teen Girl Was Pregnant Before Her Father Did Data Brokers: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) YouTube Next steps in privacy-preserving Telemetry with Prio-Mozilla Security Blog Privacy Tools: Ghostery ClearURLs Global Privacy Control Implementing Global Privacy Control in Firefox CCPA opt out, nerd edition (Don Marti Blog) Cleaning up YouTube (Don Marti Blog) Forums: Private Advertising Technology Community Group CPPA Regulations (Public rulemaking process for CPRA (next generation of CCPA) Fair Competition on the Post-Cookie WebSupport CHAOSScast

Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we are excited to have as our guest, Hilary Carter, who is the Vice President of Research at the Linux Foundation where she leads the creation of decision-useful insights into the open source technologies and standards underpinning much of the digital infrastructure on which the global economy depends. Today’s discussion focuses on the Linux Foundation Research. Hilary goes in depth with the planning process on what she chooses to investigate, their process of surveys and collecting trace data, metrics, and some surprises she learned about research in the open source community. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:02:09] Hilary tells us her background and how she got to be the VP of Research at the Linux Foundation. [00:04:02] What is Hilary’s planning and scoping process to choose what she chooses to investigate? [00:07:01] When Hilary talks about the open source paradigm and the framework built around it, we learn where she sees the community within that. [00:08:35] Since Hilary has been in her role for a year, she explains some things she was surprised to learn about research in this area. [00:10:59] Sophia wonders how Hilary has had to adapt her research processes in order to develop methodologies in this new format. [00:16:00] Georg wonders how much Hilary leverages the LFX insights platform and how much other data does she collect about communities without having to incentivize people. [00:20:02] Kate asks if there are areas Hilary would like to see more standard metrics evolve to make it easier to match things up and get insight. [00:24:10] We learn how Hilary is creating research for specific users or personas. [00:26:38] Sophia brings up a great question to Hilary about how we can coordinate as a community so we can collaborate and work more in tandem with each other. [00:29:24] Hilary talks about establishing a working group to share ideas within the community. [00:30:13] Find out where you can follow Hilary and her work online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:31:02] Georg’s pick is going on a family road trip for Spring Break. [00:31:40] Hilary’s pick is working remotely from her cottage this summer. [00:32:26] Kate’s pick is reviewing the submissions for OSS NA tracks. [00:32:44] Sophia’s pick is her travel yoga mat and using it for trips. Panelists: Georg Link Kate Stewart Sophia Vargas Guest: Hilary Carter Sponsor: SustainOSS Links: CHAOSS CHAOSS Project Twitter CHAOSScast Podcast podcast@chaoss.community Ford Foundation Hilary Carter Twitter Hilary Carter LinkedIn hcarter@linuxfoundation.org research@linuxfoundation.org The Linux Foundation Research Yoga Travel Mats Special Guest: Hilary Carter.Support CHAOSScast

Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. On this episode we have joining us, Chenqi Shan, who’s an open source developer at Huawei Open Source management center. Today we have a great discussion about GrimoireLab, which is a powerful CHAOSS tool for gathering data, and we find out a multitude of dashboards that can be used to show metric models. Chenqi shares with us how she uses GrimoireLab and how her experience has been contributing to the GrimoireLab project. Daniel details the GrimoireLab repository Sigils, and the component Perceval, and we hear stories about different approaches and different problems that we’re trying to solve with GrimoireLab. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:53] Daniel gives us a little history of Grimoire Lab, and Chenqi tells us how she uses GrimoireLab and the benefits it has for her organization and her analysis of open source software, health, sustainability, and openEuler. [00:05:59] Sean asks Chenqi about what kinds of key information do the special interest groups get from GrimoireLab that help them understand the work that needs to be done or how things are going, and Chenqi also explains what she means by health. [00:07:33] Chenqi tells us if she uses any other big metrics in their dashboards or in their setups besides the health for the response. [00:08:32] With 90 special interest groups involved, we find out if there are less experienced or newer groups that look at different metrics than some of the more experienced special interest groups. [00:10:05] Venia and Daniel talk about how different dashboards are useful to different projects at different levels or parts of their life cycle. [00:14:10] Chenqi explains their metrics. [00:16:02] We hear Chenqi’s thoughts on her experience contributing to the Grimoire Lab project. [00:17:12] Chenqi shares some recommendations for developers that would like to help with GrimoireLab gitee or GrimoireLab. [00:18:04] Venia, Daniel, and Sean share some important things about GrimoireLab and then Daniel tells us about the GrimoireLab repository Sigils. [00:25:56] Chenqi tells us why they used OpenSearch instead of Elasticsearch on their project. [00:27:32] Daniel explains if it’s common to have different platform dashboards or metric models that are presented to different projects or roles on a project in a larger organization or open source enterprise. [00:32:00] Find out about Perceval, which is a very powerful component of GrimoireLab, and Venia talks about a case study she did. [00:36:58] Looking forward towards the next year, Daniel talks about some of the key objectives happening in GrimoireLab in terms of new features, new functionality, and advances in technology and he shares a wish list of what he would like to see. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:40:54] Sean’s pick is his bicycle. [00:41:31] Venia’s pick is having better help with virtual digital therapy available. [00:42:09] Daniel’s pick is being able to meet with people. [00:42:43] Chenqi’s pick is going to Universal Studios and seeing Harry Potter. Panelists: Sean Goggins Venia Logan Daniel Izguierdo Guest: Chenqi Shan Sponsor: SustainOSS Links: CHAOSS CHAOSS Project Twitter CHAOSScast Podcast podcast@chaoss.community Ford Foundation Sean Goggins Twitter Venia Logan Twitter Daniel Izguierdo Twitter Chenqi Shan-GitHub Huawei openEuler GrimoireLab GrimoireLab-gitee Sigil Generic Dashboards for GrimoireLab-Sigils GrimoireLab Perceval-GitHub CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 21: Extending GrimoireLab projects with Ria and VenuSpecial Guest: Chenqi Shan.Support CHAOSScast

Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. On today’s episode, we have joining us as our guest, Dhruv Sachdev, who’s an undergraduate Computer Engineering student at Mumbai University and was a Google Summer of Code 2021 student for CHAOSS. Dhruv is here to talk about his path to open source and the project he did with the Google Summer of Code 2021. We hear about his experience managing his time as a student and working on this project, what projects he’s excited about doing in the near future, and he shares advice if you are new to open source or if you’re looking to explore the world of open source. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:02:00] Dhruv tells us his path to open source, when he started working on an open source project, how he found out about it, and what he finds cool about CHAOSS. [00:03:40] Sean wonders what it is about the measurement and analytics field that is so fascinating to Dhruv. [00:06:28] We hear more about Dhruv’s project he did with the Google Summer of Code. [00:10:34] Dhruv tells us what resources really helped him when he started with the Augur team to better understand the software components and more about how CHAOSS was structured. [00:12:17] Sophia talks about a research article evaluating hackathons and how effective they are on open source projects, and Sean tells us about the benefits and impacts of Google Summer of Code. [00:15:33] Dhruv explains his experience as a student, how he thought about time management, and volunteering his time in this space while still in school. [00:21:00] Sean talks about Dhruv’s pieces that he did of Augur that looked at metrics and wonders why dependencies are so important right now, and Sophia explains why. [00:25:45] Sean explains what happened in the OpenSSL security breach and talks about Heartbleed. Sophia brings up a previous episode with Avi Press, Founder of Scarf, which is an analytics tool, and explains about the vulnerabilities with tools. [00:29:50] Find out what Dhruv is most excited about doing in the near future with projects. [00:32:54] Dhruv shares advice if you are new to open source or students who are looking to explore the vast ecosystem of open source. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:35:04] Sean’s pick is Discord’s emergence. [00:36:11] Sophia’s pick is cats and daylight savings time. [00:38:11] Dhruv’s pick is having so much fun at the MahaShivRatri festival. Panelists: Sean Goggins Sophia Vargas Guest: Dhruv Sachdev Sponsor: SustainOSS Links: CHAOSS CHAOSS Project Twitter CHAOSScast Podcast podcast@chaoss.community Ford Foundation Sean Goggins Twitter Sophia Vargas Twitter Dhruv Sachdev Website Dhruv Sachdev Twitter Dhruv Sachdev LinkedIn Dhruv Sachdev project submission-Google Summer of Code 2021 for CHAOSS Security Scorecards CHAOSS Augur CHAOSS Risk Metrics Working Group CHAOSS Community Handbook CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 53: Gathering Open Source Usage Data with Avi Press SwiftOnSecurity Twitter Sam Stepanyan Twitter MahaShivRatri 2022Special Guest: Dhruv Sachdev.Support CHAOSScast

Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. On today’s episode, we are talking about Diversity, Equity, & Inclusion Reflection, which is a project that we had at CHAOSS Community to look at our own practices and how we can make our community more welcoming and inclusive, and we were fortunate to receive a grant from the Ford Foundation to complete this work. Our DEI team that has been working on this is joining us to discuss the motivation for this journey, what they’ve learned, implemented, the metrics strategy, and what they are looking forward at into the future of where they can take this work next. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:03:40] Some of the panelists share what their motivation was to embark on this journey. [00:05:27] We hear some things the panelists have learned from looking at the CHAOSS Project and things they’ve been doing to understand what works and where can they improve. [00:08:05] Elizabeth and Matt explain how the group got together and worked to arrive at their findings. [00:10:34] We learn about some easy things they’ve learned and implemented. [00:14:34] Sean dives into the metrics strategy and explains the three categories of metrics, and Matt explains the DEI Badging Program. [00:19:21] The panelists share things they are looking at into the future of where can we take this work next? [00:24:41] Find out where you can learn more if you’re interested in this kind of work they’re doing, as well as learn about new things that are coming up with this group. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:25:43] Georg’s pick is being super happy with how professional the medical field has been keeping people happy. [00:26:36] Ruth’s pick is to always have hard conversations. [00:26:52] Kristi’s pick is she passed the Project Management Professional Certification. [00:27:21] Matt’s pick is he bought his first snow blower. [00:27:54] Sean’s pick is a book called, Algorithms on Strings. [00:28:10] Kafayah’s pick is her plants and a light she found to help them grow during the winter. [00:28:27] Elizabeth’s pick is her favorite team, the Cincinnati Bengals. [00:29:12] Georgia’s pick is a website called, How I Experienced Web Today. Panelists: Georg Link Kristi Progri Selene Yang Georgia Bullen Ruth Ikegah Matt Germonprez Sean Goggins Elizabeth Barron Kafayah Lawal Sponsor: SustainOSS Links: CHAOSS CHAOSS Project Twitter CHAOSScast Podcast podcast@chaoss.community Ford Foundation CHAOSS Blog Post-DEI Audit 2021 Georg Link Twitter Kristi Progri Twitter Selene Yang Georgia Bullen Twitter Matt Germonprez Twitter Sean Goggins Twitter Kafayah Lawal LinkedIn Elizabeth Barron Twitter Ruth Ikegah Twitter CHAOSS Community- Participate CHAOSS Community Slack Algorithms on Strings by Maxime Crochemore, Christophe Hancart, Thierry Lecroq Plant Grow Light Cincinnati Bengals How I Experienced Web Today Support CHAOSScast

Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we are super excited to have as our guest, Avi Press, Founder and CEO of Scarf. Avi tells us all about Scarf, Scarf Gateway, the tools that compliment it, and details how Scarf is helping open source software developers use data effectively. Also, Avi shares something he was surprised about early on with usage of open source projects. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:02:18] Avi tells us more about his background, what brought him into open source, and what led him to start Scarf. [00:04:13] We learn more how Scarf works and what the tool is collecting. [00:06:44] Kate asks Avi if he’s looking at being able to generate out the software buildable materials and making that available at all or maybe something he’s contemplating. [00:08:18] Avi explains their polices for maintainers and Kate tells us more about a census coming out with people doing scans code that Ari is interested in. [00:14:55] We hear a story about a package that Ari first built called scarf-js on npm. [00:18:00] Sophia wonders from a practical standpoint, how the user experience is so they know they’re interacting with Scarf. [00:20:15] Another question Sophie asks Avi circles back to what a user is, knowing there’s a lot of overlap between activity, new user contributors, and everything in between, and she wonders how that’s handled and the tool. [00:22:10] Avi explains how they encourage maintainers collect usage data. [00:23:54] Avi had mentioned that having insights and data about the usage of open source can help an open source project become more sustainable, and he shares examples that he’s seen already put in place. [00:26:46] Kate asks Avi how he sees what he’s sharing back to the projects differing from the clones out there. [00:28:05] We learn something that surprised Avi early on being the middleman. [00:29:24] Find out where you follow Avi online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:30:12] Georg’s pick is having a proud father moment with his son. [00:30:54] Kate’s pick is Log4j which is helping to really illustrate the need for SBOMs & tracking dependencies. [00:31:26] Sophia’s pick is an electric tea kettle she just acquired. [00:33:05] Avi’s picks are two open source projects that he uses: org-mode and org-roam. Panelists: Georg Link Sophia Vargas Kate Stewart Guest: Avi Press Sponsor: SustainOSS Links: CHAOSS CHAOSS Project Twitter CHAOSScast Podcast podcast@chaoss.community Avi Press Website Avi Press Twitter Avi Press LinkedIn Scarf Scarf Twitter Scarf-GitHub Scarf-js Apache Log4j Org Mode Org-roam Special Guest: Avi Press.Support CHAOSScast