

Get Creative with Pace Morby
Pace Morby
Discover the insider secrets of real estate investing and unlock your path to financial freedom with the Get Creative Podcast with Pace Morby. Join Pace and industry experts as they share invaluable tips, creative finance strategies, and success stories to help you thrive in the competitive world of real estate investing. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just starting out, our podcast provides actionable insights to accelerate your journey towards wealth and independence. Tune in now and start building your empire today!
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Jun 17, 2024 • 37min
From Corporate to Creative: Nathan Johnson's Journey Through Real Estate
 Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative. We are going to dive into Nathan Johnson’s journey. Nathan is a resourceful real estate investor who transitioned from a corporate job to full-time flipping and Airbnb management. Discover how Nathan and his family embraced a life of adventure, traveling in an RV, and making strategic investments that transformed their lives. With heartwarming stories and practical tips, this episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to break into the world of creative finance and real estate.
 
Highlights:
 
"Don't be afraid to ask because the answer might pleasantly surprise you and save you."
 
"It was the best year of my life, just carefree enjoyment and traveling."
 
"The Sub To community has sped me up probably 100x from where I would be if I wasn't a part of it."
 
Timestamps:
00:00 - Welcome to Get Creative Podcast
03:18 - From Arkansas to Indiana
06:34 - The 1920s House Deal
09:12 - Renovating a Dollhouse
13:11 - Living the RV Life
17:33 - Major Home Renovations
22:07 - Asking for Help
24:42 - Transition to Airbnb
27:38 - First Wholesale Deal
31:27 - Impact of the Sub Two Community
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► Want to Become a Private Money Lender?  Join Us For The Upcoming LIVE Training this Saturday to Learn How to Lend Money on Real Estate Deals:
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► Join Our Free Facebook Group to Connect with Pace and his Students: https://paceapproves.com/freefb-yt 
 
► Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator and Make Money Doing The Paperwork For Real Estate Transactions:
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► Listen To Pace and His Students Share Insider Secrets To Real Estate Investor Success:
https://getcreativepodcast.com/ 
 
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Jun 16, 2024 • 31min
Grant Cardone vs. John Legere: Inside the $100M Legal Battle
 Welcome to a new episode of the Get Creative podcast! Today, we have a conversation with business and real estate mogul, Grant Cardone. Grant is currently involved in a $100 million defamation lawsuit against the ex-CEO of T-Mobile, John Legere. This episode explores the details of this legal battle, including the influence, power, and reputation at play in the modern business world. Grant shares his thoughts on navigating these challenges, handling public scrutiny, and the impact of high-stakes decisions.
Highlights:
"If you can't handle being talked about, then you're not ready for success."
"I believe that in the next year, Grant Cardone will be guilty of fraud. Why John? Because he has significant influence, and his false claims have caused real damage."
"The most valuable thing you have is your name."
 
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction and overview of the episode's topic.
00:20 - Grant Cardone discusses his approach to handling public scrutiny and negative comments.
01:33 - Grant Cardone's response to the defamation lawsuit against John Legere.
02:29 - The impact of false claims on public figures and their reputations.
03:39 - Details of the allegations made by John Legere against Grant Cardone.
04:19 - Grant Cardone on the influence and responsibility of public figures.
06:47 - The personal and professional impact of the lawsuit on Grant Cardone.
09:13 - Grant's conversation with his family about pursuing the lawsuit.
10:11 - The strategic decision to sue John Legere and its implications.
11:47 - The importance of reputation and handling public criticism.
► Join The Subto Community & Learn Creative Finance Directly from Pace:  
https://paceapproves.com/subto-gc 
► Want to Become a Private Money Lender?  Join Us For The Upcoming LIVE Training this Saturday to Learn How to Lend Money on Real Estate Deals:
http://joingatortribe.com/yt 
 
► Join Our Free Facebook Group to Connect with Pace and his Students: https://paceapproves.com/freefb-yt 
 
► Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator and Make Money Doing The Paperwork For Real Estate Transactions:
https://paceapproves.com/tttc-gc 
 
► Listen To Pace and His Students Share Insider Secrets To Real Estate Investor Success:
https://getcreativepodcast.com/ 
 
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Jun 15, 2024 • 1h 11min
From DIYer to CEO: Building a Real Estate Empire
 Welcome to a new episode of the Get Creative Podcast! In this episode, we're diving into the world of real estate, exploring the journey from being a hands-on DIYer to becoming the CEO of a successful enterprise. We'll discuss the importance of delegation, the transformative power of finding the right partners, and how to build and lead a thriving team. We’ll also touch on the value of networking, mentorship, and authentic branding. This episode is packed with actionable advice and inspiring stories, perfect for anyone looking to scale their real estate business or gain new insights into effective business management. 
Highlights:
"When opportunity calls, I had to learn to get over doing it myself and start answering."
"You don’t have a business until you can go somewhere for three or four days and your company continues to make money in your absence."
"Sometimes we're standing so close to our problem that we need somebody who's been there to give us permission to look up."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction: Learning to delegate and finding the right partners.
01:03 - The grind: Traveling 110 days a year and managing costs.
02:08 - Scaling the business: From a few employees to over 600.
03:09 - Building a team: Importance of culture and finding the right people.
12:38 - The turning point: Hiring a coach and the impact on business growth.
14:32 - Realizing you're in your own way: Overcoming ego and pride.
16:38 - Moving from a blue-collar background to entrepreneurship.
18:40 - Providing value: Importance of taking action and building a team.
22:28 - Leveraging proximity: The power of networking and mentorship.
26:30 - Authentic branding: Documenting the journey and building a reputation.
 
► Join The Subto Community & Learn Creative Finance Directly from Pace:  
https://paceapproves.com/subto-gc 
► Want to Become a Private Money Lender?  Join Us For The Upcoming LIVE Training this Saturday to Learn How to Lend Money on Real Estate Deals:
http://joingatortribe.com/yt 
 
► Join Our Free Facebook Group to Connect with Pace and his Students: https://paceapproves.com/freefb-yt 
 
► Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator and Make Money Doing The Paperwork For Real Estate Transactions:
https://paceapproves.com/tttc-gc 
 
► Listen To Pace and His Students Share Insider Secrets To Real Estate Investor Success:
https://getcreativepodcast.com/ 
 
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Jun 14, 2024 • 23min
The Power of Community in Real Estate Investments with Chase & Tiffaney Hefflefinger and Nicki Hajek
 Welcome to a new episode of the Get Creative Podcast! In this episode, we’re talking with Chase & Tiffaney Hefflefinger and Nicki Hajek. Together, they dive into the details of a recent creative financing deal, sharing their strategies, experiences, and insights on managing short-term and mid-term rentals. The conversation covers the benefits of being part of a supportive community, the specifics of the deal, and the guests' future goals in real estate.
Highlights:
"I work with a lot of insurance adjusters, placement agencies, temporary housing agencies... I have a lot of data as far as zip codes and how often they're getting requests."
"It's a really good network of people to work together and support together... there's a whole different mindset within the SubTo community."
"You could literally build your real estate portfolio with cash flow without having to worry about getting your DTI cleared up."
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:52 Highlighting the Community
01:45 Breaking Down the Deal
04:20 Partnering for Success
05:40 Market Insights
07:08 Tiffany's Involvement
10:15 Challenges and Successes
14:00 Future Goals
17:05 Management Strategies
20:39 Community Impact
 
► Join The Subto Community & Learn Creative Finance Directly from Pace:  
https://paceapproves.com/subto-gc 
► Want to Become a Private Money Lender?  Join Us For The Upcoming LIVE Training this Saturday to Learn How to Lend Money on Real Estate Deals:
http://joingatortribe.com/yt 
 
► Join Our Free Facebook Group to Connect with Pace and his Students: https://paceapproves.com/freefb-yt 
 
► Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator and Make Money Doing The Paperwork For Real Estate Transactions:
https://paceapproves.com/tttc-gc 
 
► Listen To Pace and His Students Share Insider Secrets To Real Estate Investor Success:
https://getcreativepodcast.com/ 
  

Jun 13, 2024 • 32min
Navigating Hybrid Real Estate Deals: Angel Arellanes and Jordan Hirschfeld's Success Story
 Welcome to a new episode of the Get Creative Podcast, where we break down the world of creative finance. In this episode, we dive deep into the intricate process of a hybrid real estate deal, featuring insights from Angel Arellanes and Jordan Hirschfeld. Join us as we explore the challenges and triumphs they encountered, from navigating attorney hurdles to securing a profitable transaction. Whether you're a seasoned investor or just starting out, this episode is packed with valuable lessons on creative finance strategies.
 
Highlights:
"Collaboration is key. You don't know what you don't know until you know." 
"When you truly have motivated buyers and sellers, patience becomes a virtue."
"Always vet your title companies and attorneys. That can make or break your deal."
"The mentorship and communities really help ramp up your potential."
 
Timestamps:
00:01 - Introduction to the Get Creative Podcast
01:44 - The Beginning of a Hybrid Deal in Wyoming
04:17 - From Novation to Hybrid: A Journey in Creative Finance
06:44 - Incorporating Jordan as a Transaction Coordinator
09:21 - Challenges of Finding the Right Attorney
12:33 - Keeping the Seller Engaged During a Long Process
16:20 - Breaking Down the Deal Numbers
20:00 - Understanding Hybrid Deals: Sub Two and Seller Carry
23:25 - Advice for Joining the Sub Two Community
28:27 - Transitioning to Full-Time Real Estate
31:04 - Final Advice: Vetting Title Companies and Attorneys
 
► Join The Subto Community & Learn Creative Finance Directly from Pace: 
https://paceapproves.com/subto-gc 
► Want to Become a Private Money Lender? Join Us For The Upcoming LIVE Training this Saturday to Learn How to Lend Money on Real Estate Deals:
http://joingatortribe.com/yt 
 
► Join Our Free Facebook Group to Connect with Pace and his Students: https://paceapproves.com/freefb-yt 
 
► Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator and Make Money Doing The Paperwork For Real Estate Transactions:
https://paceapproves.com/tttc-gc 
 
► Listen To Pace and His Students Share Insider Secrets To Real Estate Investor Success:
https://getcreativepodcast.com/ 
 
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Jun 12, 2024 • 1h 4min
Surviving the AI Takeover: Real Estate Strategies for the Future
 Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! Today, we’re discussing the future of work, housing, and life in the era of AI, and what you should do to thrive in the age of AI. Discover how AI is transforming the real estate landscape and what it means for the future of jobs and investments.
Highlights:
"AI is already taking over. Your job won’t be around in 10 years, 15 years, definitely not in 25 years."
"The only thing that you should be doing is buying real estate with creative finance, putting it in your portfolio, and being smart with your money."
"In the next 10 years, you should have 25 rentals to never have to work again."
"Truck drivers will be obsolete, meaning 90% of the existing number of people that are employed by trucks driving across the country, 90% of them will be gone in five years."
Timestamps:
03:15 - AI and Human Obsolescence
06:48 - Driverless Cars
11:48 - Future of Truck Drivers
15:00 - Farming and Automation
19:34 - Universal Basic Income
23:12 - Real Estate Investment Advice
25:34 - Airbnb and the Future of Housing
45:14 - The End of Rental Arbitrage
48:32 - Financial Advisor Obsolescence
50:37 - The Co-Living Revolution
 
► Join The Subto Community & Learn Creative Finance Directly from Pace: 
https://paceapproves.com/subto-gc 
► Want to Become a Private Money Lender? Join Us For The Upcoming LIVE Training this Saturday to Learn How to Lend Money on Real Estate Deals:
http://joingatortribe.com/yt 
 
► Join Our Free Facebook Group to Connect with Pace and his Students: https://paceapproves.com/freefb-yt 
 
► Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator and Make Money Doing The Paperwork For Real Estate Transactions:
https://paceapproves.com/tttc-gc 
 
► Listen To Pace and His Students Share Insider Secrets To Real Estate Investor Success:
https://getcreativepodcast.com/ 
 
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Jun 11, 2024 • 41min
From the Netherlands to the USA: Real Estate Strategies with Kenny Van Boxel
 Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! Today, we dive deep into the world of real estate investing with Kenny Van Boxel. Kenny came from the Netherlands and shares his journey of investing in real estate across three different countries. Learn about his innovative strategies, the challenges he overcame, and the secrets to his success. 
 
Highlights:
"Building great relationships gives you great opportunities."
 
"If you want to invest in real estate, you can make it passive if you want. Just a couple of hours a week should be sufficient to get you going."
 
"You're not just investing someone else's money; you're investing their time. Treat it with respect."
 
Timestamps:
 
00:00 - Welcome to the Get Creative Podcast
01:20 - Meet Kenny Van Boxel
02:30 - Investing Across Borders
04:06 - First Property in Spain
07:34 - The Power of Private Money
09:30 - Expanding to St. Louis
17:54 - Portfolio Highlights
25:00 - The Importance of Joint Ventures
31:58 - Navigating Regulations and Risks
38:22 - Building a Supportive Community
 
► Join The Subto Community & Learn Creative Finance Directly from Pace:  
https://paceapproves.com/subto-gc 
► Want to Become a Private Money Lender?  Join Us For The Upcoming LIVE Training this Saturday to Learn How to Lend Money on Real Estate Deals:
http://joingatortribe.com/yt 
 
► Join Our Free Facebook Group to Connect with Pace and his Students: https://paceapproves.com/freefb-yt 
 
► Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator and Make Money Doing The Paperwork For Real Estate Transactions:
https://paceapproves.com/tttc-gc 
 
► Listen To Pace and His Students Share Insider Secrets To Real Estate Investor Success:
https://getcreativepodcast.com/ 
 
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Jun 10, 2024 • 33min
Learn More About Real Estate Lending with Paul M. Lutter
 Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, we dive into the world of real estate lending with our special guest, Paul M. Lutter. Paul, a seasoned investor from Texas, shares his journey from healthcare to becoming a successful private lender. Discover how leveraging relationships and community can lead to amazing deals and financial freedom. Tune in for practical advice, inspiring stories, and valuable insights to help you navigate your own real estate ventures.
 
Highlights:
"The deals are always going to be there. If you are a motivated lender, you're gonna set yourself up for failure. Don't be in a rush to do a bad deal."
 
"In business, just like in healthcare, the same concept applies: connect with people, meet their needs, and listen."
 
"We said, 'Where do we want to be at this stage of our life?' For us, staying in lending was better for our lifestyle and being present as a family."
 
Timestamps:
 
00:00 - Welcome to Get Creative Podcast
05:00 - Paul's Journey into Real Estate Lending
07:16 - Cross Collateralizing for Security
08:03 - The Deal That Went Perfectly
10:21 - Overcoming Obstacles in Deals
15:48 - Utilizing IRA LLCs for Quick Funding
18:54 - Advice for Newcomers to Gator and Sub-To
20:31 - Personal Growth Through Real Estate Communities
23:39 - Finding Your Avatar in Real Estate
29:51 - Balancing Family and Business
 
► Join The Subto Community & Learn Creative Finance Directly from Pace:  
https://paceapproves.com/subto-gc 
► Want to Become a Private Money Lender?  Join Us For The Upcoming LIVE Training this Saturday to Learn How to Lend Money on Real Estate Deals:
http://joingatortribe.com/yt 
 
► Join Our Free Facebook Group to Connect with Pace and his Students: https://paceapproves.com/freefb-yt 
 
► Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator and Make Money Doing The Paperwork For Real Estate Transactions:
https://paceapproves.com/tttc-gc 
 
► Listen To Pace and His Students Share Insider Secrets To Real Estate Investor Success:
https://getcreativepodcast.com/ 
 
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Jun 9, 2024 • 48min
Creative Real Estate Mastery: Insights and Strategies
 Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative. In this episode, I joined Jordan Belford over on his podcast, The Wolf's Den. We uncover the secrets of creative financing in real estate. From Subject-To deals to building a community. We discuss some unique approaches to investing and his journey to success. Tune in to learn how to build and leverage a supportive community in real estate and the value of taking imperfect action and learning along the way.
 
Highlights:
 "The quickest way to drown out negativity is with an abundance of positivity." 
"Hard makes you resilient. Soft and easy doesn't make you resilient." 
"The Lord puts you into these situations knowing you can handle them. It's a test." 
 
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
02:24 - Collecting Tools
05:00 - Power of Money
10:00 - Journey into Real Estate
20:00 - Importance of Community
30:00 - Taking Messy Action
40:00 - Delegation and Growth
50:00 - Consistency and Commitment
1:00:00 - Overcoming Adversity
1:10:00 - Future Plans
► Join The Subto Community & Learn Creative Finance Directly from Pace:  
https://paceapproves.com/subto-gc 
► Want to Become a Private Money Lender?  Join Us For The Upcoming LIVE Training this Saturday to Learn How to Lend Money on Real Estate Deals:
http://joingatortribe.com/yt 
 
► Join Our Free Facebook Group to Connect with Pace and his Students: https://paceapproves.com/freefb-yt 
 
► Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator and Make Money Doing The Paperwork For Real Estate Transactions:
https://paceapproves.com/tttc-gc 
 
► Listen To Pace and His Students Share Insider Secrets To Real Estate Investor Success:
https://getcreativepodcast.com/ 
 
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Jun 8, 2024 • 1h 44min
Growing Through Giving: Real Estate Growth Mindset
 Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative. In this episode, I joined Steve Crawford and Justin Hoke on The Grow Giver Podcast. We discussed creative finance and the power of community in real estate investing. From overcoming early challenges to building a thriving community, we shared mindset growth strategies, actionable insights, and inspiring stories. 
 
Highlights: 
 
"The quickest way to drown out negativity is with an abundance of positivity."
 
"Hard makes you resilient. Soft and easy doesn't make you resilient." 
 
"The Lord puts you into these situations knowing you can handle them. It's a test." 
 
Timestamps: 
00:00 - Introduction
02:16 - Collecting Tools
05:00 - Power of Money
10:00 - Journey into Real Estate
20:00 - Importance of Community
30:00 - Taking Messy Action
40:00 - Delegation and Growth
50:00 - Consistency and Commitment
1:00:00 - Overcoming Adversity
1:10:00 - Future Plans
 
► Join The Subto Community & Learn Creative Finance Directly from Pace:  
https://paceapproves.com/subto-gc 
► Want to Become a Private Money Lender?  Join Us For The Upcoming LIVE Training this Saturday to Learn How to Lend Money on Real Estate Deals:
http://joingatortribe.com/yt 
 
► Join Our Free Facebook Group to Connect with Pace and his Students: https://paceapproves.com/freefb-yt 
 
► Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator and Make Money Doing The Paperwork For Real Estate Transactions:
https://paceapproves.com/tttc-gc 
 
► Listen To Pace and His Students Share Insider Secrets To Real Estate Investor Success:
https://getcreativepodcast.com/ 
 
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