

Curious Minds at Work
Gayle Allen
Want to get better at work? At managing others? Managing yourself? Gayle Allen interviews experts who take your performance to the next level. Each episode features a book with insights to help you achieve your goals.
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Feb 26, 2024 • 45min
CM 260: Malissa Clark Asks, Are You a Workaholic?
There’s more to being a workaholic than working long hours. Consider what motivates you to work more. Where you’re spending your energy. Think about the impact those longer hours have on family and friends.
These are some of the distinctions Malissa Clark makes in her book, Never Not Working: Why the Always-on Culture is Bad for Business and How to Fix it. She not only shares a helpful framework for thinking about workaholism but gives us ways to recognize it. Equally helpful, she explains steps we – and our organizations – can take to undo it.
Malissa’s book is a great resource for assessing workaholic tendencies and for changing them – as individuals, teams, and organizations.
Episode Links
Are You a Workaholic? Don’t Wear it as a Badge of Honor
These are the Four Drivers of Workaholism
Thomas Curran on The Perfection Trap
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Feb 12, 2024 • 52min
CM 259: Geoffrey Cohen on the Science of Belonging
Researchers discuss the increase in loneliness and its negative effects on health. Feeling like we belong can improve motivation and performance in all areas of life. Psychologist Geoffrey Cohen shares insights on combating loneliness and creating connections. Interventions and strategies to foster belonging and overcome challenges are explored in various chapters of the podcast.

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Jan 29, 2024 • 45min
CM 258: Steven Rogelberg on the Perfect One-on-One Meeting
Guest: Steven Rogelberg, meeting expert and author of the book, Glad We Met: The Art and Science of 1. In this podcast, Steven Rogelberg discusses the importance and effectiveness of one-on-one meetings. He provides practical tips on designing and leading these meetings, emphasizing the value of reflection and attention managers can provide to their employees. The podcast also explores topics like avoiding the 'status update trap', aligning values with meetings, and gathering data on meeting activities and feelings.

Jan 15, 2024 • 53min
CM 257: Anna Lembke on Our Digital Addictions
Psychiatrist Anna Lembke discusses addiction beyond drugs and alcohol, focusing on our tech-induced behaviors. She explores the relationship between pleasure, pain, and addiction, and the impact of leisure time on well-being. The podcast also covers the connection between pleasure and pain, the importance of radical honesty in recovery, and the role of spirituality in healing.

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Jan 1, 2024 • 45min
CM 256: Cassie Holmes on Happiness, Meaning, and Fulfillment – Rebroadcast
Discover the importance of being intentional with how you spend your time to feel happier and more fulfilled. Learn about the connection between happiness and time, including the impact of social connections and commuting. Understand hedonic adaptation and strategies for countering it. Prioritize joy, cherish time with loved ones, and optimize your use of time through time crafting. Find purpose and significance in everyday tasks through powerful strategies.

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Dec 18, 2023 • 50min
CM 255: Kat Vellos on Mastering Friendship – Rebroadcast
I’ve spent a lot of time talking to guests about our relationships at work. For example, we’ve discussed how to listen better, how to navigate conflict, and how to influence others, just to name a few.
What I’ve spent less time talking about are the relationships that go beyond work. That’s why I invited Kat Vellos on the show this week to talk about her amazing book, We Should Get Together: The Secret to Cultivating Better Friendships.
Kat’s book is more than a callout to the power of friendship. It’s a roadmap for making new friends, and, equally valuable, it’s an owner’s manual for deepening existing friendships.
It's an episode that really resonated with listeners. With the holidays approaching - and opportunities for more time with friends and family - I wanted to rebroadcast it for you. Enjoy!
Episode Links
How Many Hours Does It Take to Make a Friend by Jeffrey A. Hall
Better Than Small Talk
The Art of Gathering by Priya Parker
Donald Horton and Richard Wohl and Para-Social Communication
Loneliness and Social Connections
Choke by Sian Beilock
Non-Violent Communication: A Language of Life by Marshall Rosenberg
Kat Vellos TED Talk
Happy City by Charles Montgomery
Having and Being Had by Eula Biss
The Team
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Dec 4, 2023 • 56min
CM 254: Adia Harvey Wingfield on Racism at Work
In the U.S., we have laws and policies in place to prevent discrimination of Black workers. In addition, we have leaders who make public pledges in support of diversity goals. Yet the data continue to show that Black employees are less likely to be hired, more likely to stall out in mid-level positions, and stand little chance of gaining senior level positions.
Why is that?
Adia Harvey Winfield’s work lies at the intersection of labor and race, and her research reveals that, for Black workers, there are gray areas. These gray areas are the cultural, social, and relational factors that influence who gets hired, who gets promoted, and who finds it easiest to navigate the workplace. That’s what she writes about in her latest book, Gray Areas: How the Way We Work Perpetuates Racism and What We Can Do to Fix It.
Adia shares powerful stories of Black workers across all kinds of professions and organizations. We’re taken into the lived experiences of individual Black employees as they navigate landmines most of us don’t even see. It’s a book that took my understanding of racism in the workplace to a whole other level.
Episode Links
How Gray Areas in Work Culture Drive Racial Inequality
What Do a Black Scientist, Non-Profit Executive, and Filmmaker Have in Common? They All Face Racism in the 'Gray Areas' of Workplace Culture
We Built a Diverse Academic Department in 5 Years. Here's How.
Joan Williams on Diversity Practices that Work
The Team
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Nov 20, 2023 • 51min
CM 253: Karen Eber on Crafting the Perfect Story
A well-crafted story can fuel connection. It can inspire trust and entertain. Better still, it can have a ripple effect.
Yet most of us avoid telling stories. Instead, we stick to the facts and emphasize the data. Now, even if we believe this is the best way to convey information, our brains, if they could talk, would disagree. That’s why, if we want to connect, persuade, or just keep our audience’s attention, we need to get better at storytelling.
That’s why I wanted to speak with Karen Eber, author of the book, The Perfect Story: How to Tell Stories That Inform, Influence, and Inspire. Karen not only explains why stories matter, she also explains how to craft them. Every section of this book is filled with takeaways you can immediately put into practice. It’s a book I’ll return to again and again.
Episode Links
How Your Brain Responds to Stories and Why They’re Crucial for Leaders
The 4-Part Structure to Telling Great Stories
Vanessa Bohns on How We Influence Others
The Team
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Nov 6, 2023 • 46min
CM 252: Matt Abrahams on How to Speak on the Spot
In this podcast, communications expert Matt Abrahams shares strategies for speaking successfully when put on the spot. Topics include overcoming anxiety and perfectionism, the importance of structure in various domains, practicing and focusing communication skills, tips for small talk and Q&A sessions, and exploring artificial intelligence in communication.

Oct 23, 2023 • 48min
CM 251: Eduardo Briceno on Improving Our Performance
Most of us are on a performance treadmill. We show up. We execute. Then tomorrow we do it all over again.
But this relentless focus on execution leaves little time for learning. As a result, our skills stagnate, and we accomplish less. Soon we find ourselves working harder while falling further behind.
Eduardo Briceno calls this The Performance Paradox: Turning the Power of Mindset into Action, a label that’s also the title of his book. In it, he shares how we can build learning into our day without sacrificing performance. It’s a way of working that ensures high execution and continuous learning.
Episode Links
4 Signs of the Chronic Performance Trap and How to Break Free
Your Talent Wants a Learning Culture. Here are 5 Steps to Create One
Interview with Steve Magness
My Name is Red by Orhan Pamuk
The Team
Learn more about host, Gayle Allen, and producer, Rob Mancabelli, here.
Support the Podcast
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