
Flourish FM
What does it take to flourish? We started Flourish FM to share cutting edge research from world experts on how to thrive, so you can take away big ideas and practical steps to enhance your life, the lives of others, and, ultimately, make the world a better place.
Flourish FM is hosted by Dr. Jon Beale and Dr. Nick Holton, and in collaboration with the Human Flourishing Program at Harvard University, the Department of Education at the University of Oxford, and The Shipley School.
Latest episodes

Jun 25, 2024 • 50min
Episode #50: How Theology can Help you Flourish, with Dr. Miroslav Volf
Dr. Miroslav Volf is a prominent theologian, scholar, author, and founding Director of the Yale Center for Faith and Culture.
Born in Croatia, Miroslav experienced the religious and political tensions of his homeland firsthand, which deeply influenced his academic and theological pursuits. He has authored numerous influential books, including Exclusion and Embrace: A Theological Exploration of Identity, Otherness, and Reconciliation and Allah: A Christian Response, which engage with pressing theological and ethical questions in a globalized world. His most recent book is the New York Times bestseller Life Worth Living: A Guide to What Matters Most, co-authored with Matthew Croasmun and Ryan McAnnally-Linz last year.
Miroslav's work emphasizes the importance of dialogue, understanding, and reconciliation across religious and cultural divides, making him a significant figure in contemporary Christian thought and interfaith discourse.
In the episode, we discuss what we can learn about what it means to flourish and how to flourish from Life Worth Living and the Yale course of the same name, and how to answer what Miroslav calls “The Question” concerning human flourishing.
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Timestamps:
[01:05] A fresh perspective on flourishing.
[04:38] Education and human flourishing.
[08:49] Engaging with religious traditions.
[16:25] The meaning of human existence.
[20:08] Emotional side of life.
[24:27] Question of human existence.
[27:33] Components of the good life.
[34:32] The pursuit of eudaimonia.
[39:37] Values in different traditions.
[44:25] A life with pain.
[49:49] The beauty of suffering.
[53:33] The definition of success.
[56:04] The flame of ambition.

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Jun 11, 2024 • 50min
Episode #49: Why your mindset matters and what to start doing about it
In this engaging discussion, Dr. Gemma Leigh Roberts, a chartered psychologist and author, shares her expertise on resilience and mindset. She highlights six foundational pillars of resilience and emphasizes the importance of acceptance in navigating challenges. Listeners will learn about essential mindset skills for the modern workplace and how emotional intelligence plays a role in adaptability. Gemma also explores mindfulness as a tool for building resilience and the power of support networks in personal growth, encouraging kindness and self-acceptance throughout the journey.

May 28, 2024 • 53min
Episode #48: How to build great relationships, with Dr. Rick Hanson
Dr. Rick Hanson, a psychologist and bestselling author, shares profound insights into building great relationships. He discusses the importance of effort over instinct in cultivating connections and how mindfulness can address relationship challenges. The conversation highlights the significance of psychological safety and emotional expression in deepening bonds. Rick emphasizes self-awareness and effective communication as key tools for navigating interpersonal dynamics. He also explores how overcoming obstacles can strengthen relationships, advocating for quality social connections to enhance well-being.

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May 14, 2024 • 1h
Episode #47: Digging into how to “be well” with Dr. Rick Hanson
Dr. Rick Hanson, a psychologist and New York Times bestselling author, shares insights on positive neuroplasticity and well-being. He emphasizes the importance of emotional resilience and mindfulness in relationships, explaining how personal growth can stem from both hardships and positive experiences. The discussion also covers the nuances of trauma, the vital role of connection and purpose in building resilience, and how psychological strengths contribute to overall well-being. Hanson’s practical strategies will empower listeners to thrive through life's challenges.

Apr 30, 2024 • 54min
Episode #46: How to leverage failure and psychological safety in your team or organization, with Dr. Amy Edmondson
We interview Dr. Amy C. Edmondson, Novartis Professor of Leadership and Management at Harvard Business School, a chair established to support the study of human interactions that lead to the creation of successful enterprises that contribute to the betterment of society. She has pioneered the concept of psychological safety for over 20 years and was recognized in 2021 as #1 on the Thinkers50 global ranking of management thinkers.
Amy is the author of Teaming: How Organizations Learn, Innovate, and Compete in the Knowledge Economy (2012), The Fearless Organization: Creating Psychological Safety in the Workplace for Learning, Innovation, and Growth (2018), and, most recently, Right Kind of Wrong: Why Learning to Fail Can Teach Us to Thrive (2023).
We speak to Amy about how to build psychological safety and learn from failure to promote flourishing, in teams, organizations, and our own lives.
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Psychological safety
Right Kind of Wrong: Why Learning to Fail Can Teach Us to Thrive (2023)
Timestamps:
00:00:05 - Introduction to Professor Amy C. Edmondson
00:00:27 - Defining Psychological Safety
00:01:10 - Disrupting Misconceptions About Psychological Safety
00:01:50 - Linking Psychological Safety to Thriving
00:02:21 - Exploring Psychological Safety and Learning from Failure
00:03:08 - Clarifying Psychological Safety in the Workplace
00:05:03 - Examples of Interpersonal Risk-Taking
00:06:35 - Insights from Amy's TED Talk on Teamwork and Error Rates
00:09:41 - The Role of Discomfort in Psychological Safety
00:10:07 - Creating a Psychologically Safe Environment
00:12:18 - The Relationship Between Psychological Safety and Performance
00:15:37 - The Spectrum of Psychological Safety in Teams
00:20:34 - Challenges in Creating Psychological Safety in Certain Industries
00:22:59 - Transition to Discussing "Right Kind of Wrong"
00:23:27 - The Connection Between Psychological Safety and Types of Failure
00:26:09 - Personal Stories of Intelligent Failure
00:29:18 - Distinguishing Between Types of Failure
00:37:19 - The Impact of Perfectionism on Psychological Safety
00:38:55 - Psychological Safety Beyond Interpersonal Environments
00:41:16 - Applying Right Kind of Wrong in Personal Lives
00:44:03 - Practical Steps for Embracing Failure and Thriving
00:48:01 - Leadership Behaviors to Avoid for Psychological Safety
00:50:07 - The Importance of Context in Embracing Failure
00:53:05 - When to Persist and When to Pivot in the Face of Failure
00:56:18 - Final Practical Advice and Resources

Apr 16, 2024 • 50min
Episode #45: What can existential psychotherapy do for your ability to flourish?, with Dr. Sara Kuburic
We interview Dr. Sara Kuburic, existential psychotherapist, writer, and columnist for USA Today, about how existential psychotherapy can help us to flourish.
In particular, we discuss Sara’s work on “self-loss”: what it is, how to identify it and rebuild our sense of self; how overcoming self-loss can help us flourish; and how to live a more authentic and meaningful life.
Sara is the author of It’s On Me: Accept Hard Truths, Discover Your Self, and Change Your Life (Penguin Random House, 2023). The book is a guide to identifying self-loss – one of our greatest unspoken human sufferings, that feeling of being estranged or disconnected from your true self – so we can stop feeling the pain and emptiness that comes from performing or observing life, rather than living it.
Sarah was born in Yugoslavia and raised in Canada, and completed her doctorate in psychotherapy science in Vienna, under the supervision of Dr. Alfried Längle, the founder of existential analysis. She is a trauma-informed clinician with a person-centered approach that is grounded in existential analysis, as well as somatic and experiential techniques. She specializes in moral trauma, identity, existential crisis, and relationship issues.
Sara is passionate about helping people seek change and live authentic, free, and meaningful lives. Her interest in psychology stems from her personal experience living through wars, navigating complex relationships, and continually learning what it means to be human.
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It’s On Me: Accept Hard Truths, Discover Your Self, and Change Your Life (Penguin Random House, 2023)
Timestamps:
00:00:05 - Introduction to Dr. Sarah Kuburic
00:00:26 - Understanding Self-Loss
00:00:37 - Sara's Approach to Psychotherapy
00:01:05 - The Existential Lens on Flourishing
00:02:02 - Defining Existential Psychotherapy
00:03:04 - Core Concepts in Existential Psychotherapy
00:03:38 - Empowering Clients to Face Truths
00:04:08 - Sara’s Specialisms: Moral Trauma and Identity
00:04:42 - Insights from Existential Psychotherapy Practice
00:05:05 - Study on Moral Injury in Infidelity
00:06:20 - Understanding our Sense of Self
00:07:09 - The Ingredients of our Sense of Self
00:08:33 - Constructing vs. Finding the Self
00:09:34 - Self-Loss and the Journey to Self-Discovery
00:10:19 - The Process of Creating the Self
00:11:42 - The Role of Community in Self-Formation
00:12:17 - Trauma and Its Impact on the Self
00:13:33 - The Importance of Facing Ourselves
00:14:15 - The Role of Responsibility in Flourishing
00:16:09 - The Complexity of Human Psychology and Trauma
00:17:33 - The Connection Between Trauma and Self-Loss
00:18:32 - The Role of Flourishing in Existential Psychotherapy
00:19:32 - The Complexity of Moral Trauma and Infidelity
00:20:37 - The Relationship Between Flourishing and Suffering
00:21:07 - The Importance of Community and Humor in Well-Being
00:22:21 - Psychological Flexibility and Inner Safety
00:23:27 - The Role of Responsibility in a Good Life
00:25:06 - Building Inner Safety and Trust in Oneself
00:26:08 - The Empowering Message of Responsibility
00:27:16 - The Role of Reflection in Building Well-Being
00:28:46 - Practical Tips for Self-Discovery and Well-Being
00:30:14 - The Role of Community in Authentic Living
00:31:24 - Using Humor and Reflection for Self-Understanding
00:32:20 - The Runaway Bride Analogy for Self-Discovery
00:33:11 - The Importance of Continual Self-Exploration
00:34:03 - Disconnection from Self: Emotions, Body, and Mind
00:35:17 - Cultural Observations on Flourishing and Self
00:36:07 - The Role of Community and Confidence in Self-Formation
00:37:04 - Finding Meaning in Suffering for Fulfillment
00:38:58 - Psychological Richness and Flexibility
00:39:55 - WEIRD Populations in Psychological Research
00:40:05 - Building Psychological Agility and Inner Safety
00:41:09 - The Relationship with Oneself and Inner Safety
00:42:12 - The Impact of Meaning and Happiness on Well-Being
00:43:45 - The Importance of Emotional and Psychological Flexibility
00:44:59 - Inner Safety and Standing Behind Oneself
00:45:44 - Journaling for Self-Reflection and Well-Being
00:47:55 - The Role of Community and Humor in a Good Life
00:49:28 - Final Thoughts on Self-Reflection and Well-Being
00:50:36 - Where to Find Sara’s Book

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Apr 9, 2024 • 54min
Episode #44: The Antifragile: Antifragility with Entrepreneur, MBA, AI consultant and dad, Josh Hernandez
Josh Hernandez, an entrepreneur, MBA, AI consultant, and father, shares his remarkable journey from a lower-middle-class upbringing in El Paso, Texas. He highlights the power of antifragility, showcasing how resilience can be built through personal challenges and community support. Josh reflects on the importance of social connections, faith, and vulnerability in cultivating happiness. He also discusses his transition from trucking to AI consulting, emphasizing the value of integrity and relationships in business.

Apr 2, 2024 • 56min
Episode #43: The Antifragile: Antifragility with 2x Inc. 300 CEO, entrepreneur, author and dad, Bob Goulet
Join Bob Goulet, a resilient entrepreneur and inventor with over two dozen patents, as he discusses his inspiring journey from tragedy to transformation. He illuminates the concept of antifragility, sharing how challenges enhance strength and purpose. With insight into personal growth, he emphasizes the value of embracing adversity for unexpected successes. Bob also dives into parenting, offering practical tips for fostering independence in children while promoting resilience. Tune in for a blend of personal anecdotes and strategies for thriving in life!

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Mar 26, 2024 • 1h 4min
Episode #42: The Antifragile: Antifragility with Aerospace Engineer, Entrepreneur, Defense Expert and Mom, Jackie Space
In this engaging conversation, Jackie Space, an aerospace engineer, entrepreneur, and defense expert, shares her remarkable journey from the military to national security innovation. She discusses the concept of antifragility, illustrating how challenges shape resilience. Jackie reflects on balancing motherhood with her career, the intersection of commercial space and military tech, and the transformative impact of adapting entrepreneurial principles for government solutions. Her insights on personal growth through adversity and nurturing her daughter's independence are both inspiring and thought-provoking.

Mar 19, 2024 • 1h 4min
Episode #41: The Antifragile: Antifragility with entrepreneur, investor, IPO expert, bestselling author and father, Peter Goldstein
Peter Goldstein, a seasoned entrepreneur and capital markets expert with over 35 years of experience, shares valuable insights into antifragility. He explains how embracing challenges leads to personal growth, contrasting it with mere resilience. Goldstein discusses chosen suffering and its role in meaningful pursuits, as well as the influence of family values on his entrepreneurial journey. He emphasizes the importance of adaptability and optimism in navigating adversities, drawing from his wealth of experiences, including successful IPOs and strategic investments.