
The Long and The Short Of It
A weekly podcast for curious people ready to explore the art and science of being human from every possible angle: macro, micro, Australian, American, tall, short and everything in between.
Latest episodes

Oct 8, 2024 • 20min
315. Six Years
Celebrating six years of creative collaboration, the hosts explore trusting their own ideas and the outcomes they envisioned for their show. They emphasize the importance of scheduling, cherishing in-person moments, and effective communication through newsletters. Reflecting on their journey, they share humorous anecdotes and lessons learned, discussing how life changes have shaped their podcasting path. Ultimately, they highlight the joy of connection forged with their listeners along the way.

Oct 1, 2024 • 18min
314. Role Play
This week, Jen and Pete noodle on the tool of role playing as a way to safely play out what might happen if what you fear were to actually come true.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:What does it mean to role play?What is a pre-mortem?What kinds of questions can we ask ourselves and each other, to think about and unpack fear and possibility?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

Sep 24, 2024 • 18min
313. Others in Action
Feeling inspired, Pete shares with Jen an experience of a recent workshop he attended, and together they noodle on what they might learn by watching others in action.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:Why is it important to seek out other people in your industry and watch them work?How might we ask other people about their process?How might we find courage to share our own work, even if it is messy?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

Sep 17, 2024 • 20min
312. Rejection
This week, Jen and Pete start to scratch the surface on how they think about rejection, and what helps them move through that feeling.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:How might we reframe rejection as context?How does the addition of information allow for rejection to be less prevelant?What four words does Pete use to help himself reframe rejection, especially when there is no further information given?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

Sep 10, 2024 • 18min
311. Assumed Knowledge
This discussion dives into the pitfalls of assumed knowledge and how it can hinder learning. Leaders are encouraged to build understanding from the ground up in workshops. The importance of asking brave questions is highlighted, alongside the need for empathy in tech interactions. Psychological safety in learning environments is emphasized, showcasing how open dialogue fosters participation. The speakers also share a playful approach to encouraging communication, using mini giraffes as rewards for curiosity and boldness.

Sep 3, 2024 • 17min
310. Under Your Nose
This week, Jen uncovered something that has been hiding just under her nose for a long time, and she and Pete discuss that discovery process.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:In what ways might we seek to problem solve in non-obvious ways?How might we think about the assets, boundaries, and narratives in our lives?What else might be hiding just under Jen's nose? And Pete's?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

Aug 27, 2024 • 17min
309. Indifference
Jen joins to dissect the intriguing layers of indifference, shedding light on its dual nature. She emphasizes how it can liberate us from control, allowing for unexpected inspiration in decision-making. They explore moments in daily life where indifference arises, pondering its influence on creativity and relationships. Jen distinguishes indifference from ambivalence, encouraging self-acceptance of one's feelings instead of judgment. This insightful dialogue makes listeners reconsider the emotional landscapes in their own lives.

Aug 20, 2024 • 18min
308. Running 2024
In their annual episode themed around running, Jen and Pete noodle on the ideas of giving yourself a break, and how that might actually help you move ahead.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:How might you add more randomness in to your routine?How can a variety of tasks help you to accomplish the same goal?What are some tools to allow yourself to take more breaks?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

Aug 13, 2024 • 18min
307. The Thing You Cannot Say
How might Pete and Jen (and the listeners) say the things they think they cannot say? That is the topic that Pete and Jen dig in to this week.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:How can you apply the idea of saying what you think you cannot say in the corporate and theatrical fields?How does this kind of communication actually create efficiencies?How does this show up in Pete's life? And in Jen's?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

Aug 6, 2024 • 18min
306. The Pirouette Process
Jen has (once again) coined a new term, and she and Pete noodle on the process of learning how to pirouette, and how that might be applied in many different contexts.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:Why might learning a new skill be more manageable one small step at a time?How might foundational tools, like empathy, be built and learned?How might coaches think about breaking their lessons down in to smaller chunks?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).