
The Long and The Short Of It
A weekly podcast for curious people ready to explore the art and science of being human from every possible angle: macro, micro, Australian, American, tall, short and everything in between.
Latest episodes

Feb 25, 2025 • 22min
335. AI
With many varying use cases, Jen and Pete dive in to the different ways they leverage AI in their day-to-day lives...and some of the answers are very surprising.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:How might we use AI to stay accountable?In what ways might we ask AI questions or prompts, and how can we continue to learn about the language we use with it?By using AI, which is non-human, how can it actually allow us to focus more on our own humanity?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

Feb 18, 2025 • 19min
334. Push-Ups
The hosts dive into the surprising journey of mastering push-ups and the lessons learned along the way. They discuss how small group training can shatter self-limiting beliefs, transforming both physical performance and personal growth. By breaking down intimidating tasks into manageable steps, they highlight the importance of expert guidance in reaching goals. Listeners are encouraged to challenge their restrictive narratives and embrace a 'can if' mindset, unlocking potential for greater confidence and success.

Feb 11, 2025 • 18min
333. Life Lessons from Cate
A young girl's profound statement sparks a discussion on overcoming fear as a path to personal growth. The speakers share insights on dealing with imposter syndrome and the journey from doubt to confidence. Embracing firsts and the discomfort that comes with new experiences is explored, highlighting the importance of growth through challenges. They emphasize that hard work and dedication are crucial for success, illustrated through relatable stories and lessons learned from children.

Feb 4, 2025 • 19min
332. Tolerance of Uncertainty
After facilitating the Real Skills Conference, Pete brings Jen the most valued real skill from a poll of leaders, and together they dissect what it means to be tolerant of uncertainty (and what other words might fit into that phrase).Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:What is a real skill?What might it mean to be tolerant of uncertainty?How can we be more active, than to just be tolerant of something?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

Jan 28, 2025 • 20min
331. The Year of Experiments
Dive into a year of experimentation as Jen seeks Pete's guidance on making creative experiments part of her daily life. Discover how defining success can shape the outcome of these ventures and the playful benefits that come from setting rules around experimentation. The duo emphasizes the joy of viewing goals as rewards and the importance of embracing risk in teaching and leadership roles. They also explore transforming obligations into adventures, adapting creatively post-pandemic, and the vital role of community in nurturing growth.

Jan 21, 2025 • 19min
330. Pete's Solo Off-Site #2
In a new annual tradition, Pete describes his solo off-site, and Jen interviews him about it, to get to the core of the learnings from the two-day journey.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:What is a solo off-site, and why is it a catalyst for reflection and learning?What are the questions Pete used to set up the experience for himself?What were the aha moments (big and small) from Pete's second solo off-site?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

Jan 14, 2025 • 19min
329. 2025
At the start of the new year, Jen and Pete share their catchy catchphrases, which incorporate the ideas they'll be thinking about and working on this year.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:What are some tools and strategies to utilize when creating goals and resolutions?Why does specificity of language matter?How might AI be useful in reflecting and planning?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

Jan 7, 2025 • 19min
328. Relative Tanking
Explore the intriguing concept of 'relative tanking' and why minor failures seem magnified. The hosts dive into the challenges of maintaining high standards versus embracing 'good enough' work. Personal stories reveal insights on self-doubt during workshops and the value of peer feedback. Discover the power of reflective scripting for personal growth and the importance of perspective in navigating disagreements. Ultimately, they emphasize self-compassion amidst the pressures of professional life.

Dec 31, 2024 • 30min
327. Favo(u)rite Things: 2024
Dive into the hosts' cherished tradition as they share their favorite experiences from 2024. Discover captivating books, including 'Shantaram' and 'Clear Thinking,' that shaped their year. Enjoy insights on thrilling British TV series like 'Trigger Point' and an intriguing documentary about the Second Amendment. Reflect on leadership lessons inspired by the musical Wicked and explore the transformative power of generative AI. With personal anecdotes and theatrical highlights, this episode is packed with inspiration and entertainment.

Dec 24, 2024 • 19min
326. Bite-Sized
Jen and Pete dive into the power of breaking goals into smaller, manageable chunks. They discuss how this approach can turn dreams into actionable objectives. The duo shares effective strategies for concise communication and the benefits of microlearning. They also touch on transforming expansive workshops into bite-sized video courses while maintaining engagement. Join them as they explore the balance between dreaming big and setting realistic, focused priorities.