Waking Up to Narcissism

In this bonus episode of the "Waking Up to Narcissism Premium Q&A Podcast," host Tony Overbay, LMFT (host of the award-winning Virtual Couch podcast), dives deep into the core differences between narcissism and emotional immaturity. Sparked by a heartfelt letter from a listener, Tony breaks down the rare instances of narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) and contrasts it with the more common issue of emotional immaturity. He elaborates on the diagnostic criteria for NPD, the significance of whole object relations, and object constancy in maintaining emotional bonds. Highlighting an article by Eleanor Greenberg, the episode further discusses the truth behind NPD and shares coping strategies.The episode unveils the intricate dynamics of narcissistic family systems, shedding light on the control, lack of boundaries, and roles like the 'golden child' and 'scapegoat.' Tony offers insights into the complexity of these relationships, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries and seeking self-care. The episode is a valuable guide for anyone eager to grasp the nuances of narcissism, emotional immaturity, and the impact of both on relationships and self-perception.Subscribe to Tony's latest podcast, "Waking Up to Narcissism Q&A - Premium Podcast," on the Apple Podcast App. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-to-narcissism-q-a/id1667287384Find all the latest links to podcasts, courses, Tony's newsletter, and more at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouchGo to http://tonyoverbay.com/workshop to sign up for Tony's "Magnetize Your Marriage" virtual workshop. The cost is only $19, and you'll learn the top 3 things you can do NOW to create a Magnetic Marriage. You can learn more about Tony's pornography recovery program, The Path Back, by visiting http://pathbackrecovery.com Tony mentioned a product that he used to take out all of the "uh's" and "um's" that, in his words, "must be created by wizards and magic!" because it's that good! To learn more about Descript, click here https://descript.com?lmref=bSWcEQ

In episode 85 of "Waking Up to Narcissism," host Tony Overbay, LMFT, dives deep into the complexities of relationships entangled with narcissistic traits. The journey begins with a relatable tale about a personalized gift basket, highlighting the significance of emotional connection, safety, and understanding in partnerships. Tony frames a healthy interaction between his wife and him through his Four Pillars of a Connected Conversation, emphasizing the essence of curiosity, good intentions, and open communication. A heartfelt poem titled "Desperate Voice" paints the raw emotions of a loveless marriage, furthering the episode's core message of the longing for genuine intimacy. Tony brings real stories from a Facebook group, revealing a recurring theme where individuals feel stifled and unable to voice their needs without backlash.The conversations steer towards the detrimental effects of covert narcissism and emotional immaturity in relationships. Listeners are encouraged to embrace personal desires without constraint and communicate openly. Themes of emotional maturity, setting boundaries, and achieving personal fulfillment reverberate throughout. By emphasizing the power of self-reflection and finding one's voice, Tony hopes to inspire listeners to rebuild healthier dynamics in relationships, emphasizing the importance of emotional freedom, understanding, and communication.Find all the latest links to podcasts, courses, Tony's newsletter, and more at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouchYou can find The Mind, The Mirror & Me wherever you listen to podcasts. For Apple Podcast listeners, go here https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-mind-the-mirror-me/id1701226687, and for Spotify listeners, go here https://open.spotify.com/show/5wchHyGlddGo7fAHVsZgRe?si=f9d2d5a373644621 and if you want to watch the podcast on YouTube go here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ2DrLLizhoAnd follow Tony on the Virtual Couch YouTube channel for a sneak preview of his upcoming podcast "Murder on the Couch," where True Crime meets therapy, co-hosted with his daughter Sydney. You can watch a pre-release clip here https://youtu.be/-RkRq8SrQy0Subscribe to Tony's latest podcast, "Waking Up to Narcissism Q&A - Premium Podcast," on the Apple Podcast App. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-to-narcissism-q-a/id1667287384Go to http://tonyoverbay.com/workshop to sign up for Tony's "Magnetize Your Marriage" virtual workshop. The cost is only $19, and you'll learn the top 3 things you can do NOW to create a Magnetic Marriage. You can learn more about Tony's pornography recovery program, The Path Back, by visiting http://pathbackrecovery.com And visit http://tonyoverbay.com and sign up to receive updates on upcoming programs and podcasts.Tony mentioned a product that he used to take out all of the "uh's" and "um's" that, in his words, "must be created by wizards and magic!" because it's that good! To learn more about Descript, click here https://descript.com?lmref=bSWcEQ

Tony answers a listener's question about the uncertainty of coming out of a controlling relationship and suddenly recognizing you can be anything you want to be and not knowing where to begin. He then takes on the concept of a “Bridge Partner.” Finding your way through life's relational complexities often introduces us to pivotal figures who can be considered "bridge partners." These unique individuals act as connectors, helping us transition from one emotional or relational state to another. Their role is invaluable; they guide us from places of uncertainty, emotional vulnerability, or even pain to a clearer understanding of ourselves, our desires, and our worth. But for those in emotionally immature/narcissistic relationships, “bridge partners” can be a lifeline but also cause tremendous guilt and shame. What is the difference between a “bridge partner” and an “affair partner?” How can a “bridge partner” help someone recognize what they are missing in a relationship? And what happens when two “bridge partners” have an opportunity to be in a committed relationship? Will their shared experiences be enough to move them further down a path of emotional maturity, or will the fact that both partners are coming out of unhealthy relationships only complicate a new relationship? Or c) all of the above? Bridge partners, though temporary, offer tremendous growth potential. They help you confront and challenge your understanding of relationships and personal values. But it's essential to tread with caution. Sometimes, our search for emotional connection can lead us to situations or people that might not be in our long-term best interest. Understanding complex phenomena like the Coolidge Effect or the reasons behind seeking connections outside committed relationships can provide clarity. Still, throughout this journey, it's paramount to remember that it's alright to wait to have all the answers. Embracing change, accepting oneself, and being authentic in our relationships are the cornerstones of actual growth and fulfillment.Tony referenced the article Harvard Scientist Explains What Porn Does to Your Brain https://intellectualtakeout.org/2016/07/harvard-scientist-explains-what-porn-does-to-your-brain/Find all the latest links to podcasts, courses, Tony's newsletter, and more at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouchPlease go sign up, subscribe, and follow Mackie Overbay, along with her co-host, Tony Overbay's new podcast "The Mind, The Mirror & Me," brought to you by The Virtual Couch Podcast Network, available wherever you listen to podcasts. You can hear the trailer here https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-mind-the-mirror-me/id1701226687?i=1000623563728And follow Tony on the Virtual Couch YouTube channel for a sneak preview of his upcoming podcast "Murder on the Couch," where True Crime meets therapy, co-hosted with his daughter Sydney. You can watch a pre-release clip here https://youtu.be/-RkRq8SrQy0Subscribe to Tony's latest podcast, "Waking Up to Narcissism Q&A - Premium Podcast," on the Apple Podcast App. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-to-narcissism-q-a/id1667287384Go to http://tonyoverbay.com/workshop to sign up for Tony's "Magnetize Your Marriage" virtual workshop. The cost is only $19, and you'll learn the top 3 things you can do NOW to create a Magnetic Marriage. You can learn more about Tony's pornography recovery program, The Path Back, by visiting http://pathbackrecovery.com And visit http://tonyoverbay.com and sign up to receive updates on upcoming programs and podcasts.Tony mentioned a product that he used to take out all of the "uh's" and "um's" that, in his words, "must be created by wizards and magic!" because it's that good! To learn more about Descript, click here https://descript.com?lmref=bSWcEQ

In the enlightening fifth installment of "Death by a Thousand Cuts," we delve deep into the nuanced world of relationships marred by emotional immaturity and narcissistic behaviors. A dedicated listener, Emma bravely shares her journey of being trapped in a cycle of constantly appeasing her partner, losing touch with her own needs, and struggling with self-worth. Alongside her story, the episode unpacks numerous anecdotes from our listeners. These tales underscore the often-overlooked emotional traumas that accumulate over time, from seemingly trivial disagreements over movie nights and cooking preferences to the more significant dynamics of feeling unheard and dismissed. With a blend of candid stories and expert insights, this episode emphasizes the importance of recognizing emotional manipulation, the value of setting boundaries, and the journey to rediscovering one's worth and forging authentic connections.Please go sign up, subscribe, and follow Mackie Overbay, along with her co-host, Tony Overbay's new podcast "The Mind, The Mirror & Me," brought to you by The Virtual Couch Podcast Network, available wherever you listen to podcasts. You can hear the trailer here https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-mind-the-mirror-me/id1701226687?i=1000623563728Tony references Christine Hammond’s article “Obsessed: Narcissists and their Food” from https://psychcentral.com/pro/exhausted-woman/2019/01/obsessed-narcissists-and-their-food#1Find all the latest links to podcasts, courses, Tony's newsletter, and more at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouchAnd follow Tony on the Virtual Couch YouTube channel for a sneak preview of his upcoming podcast "Murder on the Couch," where True Crime meets therapy, co-hosted with his daughter Sydney. You can watch a pre-release clip here https://youtu.be/-RkRq8SrQy0Subscribe to Tony's latest podcast, "Waking Up to Narcissism Q&A - Premium Podcast," on the Apple Podcast App. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-to-narcissism-q-a/id1667287384Go to http://tonyoverbay.com/workshop to sign up for Tony's "Magnetize Your Marriage" virtual workshop. The cost is only $19, and you'll learn the top 3 things you can do NOW to create a Magnetic Marriage. You can learn more about Tony's pornography recovery program, The Path Back, by visiting http://pathbackrecovery.com And visit http://tonyoverbay.com and sign up to receive updates on upcoming programs and podcasts.Tony mentioned a product that he used to take out all of the "uh's" and "um's" that, in his words, "must be created by wizards and magic!" because it's that good! To learn more about Descript, click here https://descript.com?lmref=bSWcEQ 

In the latest episode of "Waking Up to Narcissism," Tony Overbay, LMFT, delves into the complexities of building emotional resilience, a key to overcoming past trauma and wounds that may go back to childhood. Contrary to popular belief, changing habits takes time but requires consistent and intentional effort over an extended period. The conversation turns to the importance of emotional intelligence and understanding its role in how we react or respond in situations, especially in relationships where our past experiences and wounds can often trigger impulsive reactions.Tony emphasizes that the path to improved emotional maturity involves recognizing and comprehending our primary and secondary emotions, identifying triggers, and consciously responding intentionally. He explains that healing is not linear; it demands empathy, self-compassion, and continuous practice to overcome past traumas. The development of emotional intelligence plays a crucial role in building healthier, more fulfilling relationships. By applying strategies like pausing before reacting, being present, and learning self-soothing techniques, individuals can foster connection and growth within themselves and their relationships.Find all the latest links to podcasts, courses, Tony's newsletter, and more at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouchAnd follow Tony on the Virtual Couch YouTube channel for a sneak preview of his upcoming podcast "Murder on the Couch," where True Crime meets therapy, co-hosted with his daughter Sydney. You can watch a pre-release clip here https://youtu.be/-RkRq8SrQy0Subscribe to Tony's latest podcast, "Waking Up to Narcissism Q&A - Premium Podcast," on the Apple Podcast App. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-to-narcissism-q-a/id1667287384Go to http://tonyoverbay.com/workshop to sign up for Tony's "Magnetize Your Marriage" virtual workshop. The cost is only $19, and you'll learn the top 3 things you can do NOW to create a Magnetic Marriage. You can learn more about Tony's pornography recovery program, The Path Back, by visiting http://pathbackrecovery.com And visit http://tonyoverbay.com and sign up to receive updates on upcoming programs and podcasts.Tony mentioned a product that he used to take out all of the "uh's" and "um's" that, in his words, "must be created by wizards and magic!" because it's that good! To learn more about Descript, click here https://descript.com?lmref=bSWcEQ 

Today we delve into the challenging topic of coercive control and how it shows up in emotionally immature and narcissistic relationships. We explore the fundamental contradiction of control and love, showing how genuine affection and dominance cannot coexist harmoniously. Coercive control is a powerful, often invisible manipulation tool employed by abusers to entrap their victims. This episode also features a mix of light-hearted elements, including a thought-provoking haiku, riddle, knock-knock joke, and Limerick about the complex interplay of love and control. As we transition, we also shed light on the portrayal of control and manipulation in true story movies and the role of artificial intelligence in modern life.We then dive deep into six patterns of coercive control that manifest in many relationships. Stripping of autonomy involves the erasure of a partner's freedom, forcing them into dependency. The manipulation of intimacy and sex becomes a tool for domination. At the same time, the technological leash and the regulated health and body shift enable the abuser to monitor and control their victim's every move. As we discuss the shifting of financial power and the often-overlooked emotional roulette, listeners will gain a comprehensive understanding of how covertly coercive control can infiltrate everyday life. The episode concludes with an emphasis on the importance of seeking professional help and personal growth to overcome these damaging relationship patterns. Remember, if you are a victim of such behavior, you are not alone; resources are available to help reclaim your independence. Find all the latest links to podcasts, courses, Tony's newsletter, and more at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouchAnd follow Tony on the Virtual Couch YouTube channel for a sneak preview of his upcoming podcast "Murder on the Couch," where True Crime meets therapy, co-hosted with his daughter Sydney. You can watch a pre-release clip here https://youtu.be/-RkRq8SrQy0Subscribe to Tony's latest podcast, "Waking Up to Narcissism Q&A - Premium Podcast," on the Apple Podcast App. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-to-narcissism-q-a/id1667287384Go to http://tonyoverbay.com/workshop to sign up for Tony's "Magnetize Your Marriage" virtual workshop. The cost is only $19, and you'll learn the top 3 things you can do NOW to create a Magnetic Marriage. You can learn more about Tony's pornography recovery program, The Path Back, by visiting http://pathbackrecovery.com And visit http://tonyoverbay.com and sign up to receive updates on upcoming programs and podcasts.Tony mentioned a product that he used to take out all of the "uh's" and "um's" that, in his words, "must be created by wizards and magic!" because it's that good! To learn more about Descript, click here https://descript.com?lmref=bSWcEQ

In today's episode, we delve into the captivating journey of Alex, a compassionate individual entangled in an emotionally manipulative relationship. This narrative vividly depicts his path from self-neglect and pleasing others to asserting his needs and reclaiming his identity. It demonstrates the brave decision to break free from toxicity and embark on a path to self-care, emphasizing the value of boundaries, self-love, and therapy. Listeners will learn about the implications of inconsistent parenting, the importance of emotional bonds, and the detrimental effects of emotional immaturity and pathological kindness in relationships.The episode highlights the fundamental differences between love and control, explaining how one partner's fear or unhealthy energy can disturb the relationship's balance. It encourages open communication, respect for individuality, and emotional maturity as keys to a thriving partnership. Find all the latest links to podcasts, courses, Tony's newsletter, and more at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouchAnd follow Tony on the Virtual Couch YouTube channel for a sneak preview of his upcoming podcast "Murder on the Couch," where True Crime meets therapy, co-hosted with his daughter Sydney. You can watch a pre-release clip here https://youtu.be/-RkRq8SrQy0Subscribe to Tony's latest podcast, "Waking Up to Narcissism Q&A - Premium Podcast," on the Apple Podcast App. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-to-narcissism-q-a/id1667287384Go to http://tonyoverbay.com/workshop to sign up for Tony's "Magnetize Your Marriage" virtual workshop. The cost is only $19, and you'll learn the top 3 things you can do NOW to create a Magnetic Marriage. You can learn more about Tony's pornography recovery program, The Path Back, by visiting http://pathbackrecovery.com And visit http://tonyoverbay.com and sign up to receive updates on upcoming programs and podcasts.Tony mentioned a product that he used to take out all of the "uh's" and "um's" that, in his words, "must be created by wizards and magic!" because it's that good! To learn more about Descript, click here https://descript.com?lmref=bSWcEQ

In today’s episode, Tony delves into the complexities of working with emotionally immature or narcissistic individuals in couples therapy. He explains the challenges therapists face in discerning genuine commitment to change from manipulative behavior, as these individuals can initially come across as charming and convincing. Tony emphasizes the importance of recognizing patterns such as lying, minimizing behavior, love bombing, and maintaining control. He acknowledges that therapists may encounter difficulties in navigating these dynamics and encourages self-confrontation and personal growth. Additionally, Tony urges therapists to be aware of their own countertransference and to advocate for their client's well-being.Tony explores the topic from both the therapist's and the individual's perspective, emphasizing the need for dialogue and understanding when working with emotionally immature or narcissistic individuals in therapy. He highlights the potential for therapists to help individuals break harmful cycles and become transformational figures in their own family systems. While acknowledging that therapists may not receive extensive training in working with these individuals, Tony encourages therapists to confront their own biases and limitations in order to provide effective support. He offers insights and tools for therapists and individuals alike to navigate these challenging situations. Overall, therapy involves introducing positive tension, addressing discomfort, and promoting growth and change. Therapists need to trust their instincts, recognize signs of emotional abuse, and continuously seek professional development. Incorporating new knowledge and being vulnerable in sessions can enhance the therapeutic experience for both therapist and client. In couples therapy, it is important for therapists to separate their observations from their judgments and continue to grow professionally to effectively help couples.Find all the latest links to podcasts, courses, Tony's newsletter, and more at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouchAnd follow Tony on the Virtual Couch YouTube channel for a sneak preview of his upcoming podcast "Murder on the Couch," where True Crime meets therapy, co-hosted with his daughter Sydney. You can watch a pre-release clip here https://youtu.be/-RkRq8SrQy0Subscribe to Tony's latest podcast, "Waking Up to Narcissism Q&A - Premium Podcast," on the Apple Podcast App. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-to-narcissism-q-a/id1667287384Go to http://tonyoverbay.com/workshop to sign up for Tony's "Magnetize Your Marriage" virtual workshop. The cost is only $19, and you'll learn the top 3 things you can do NOW to create a Magnetic Marriage. You can learn more about Tony's pornography recovery program, The Path Back, by visiting http://pathbackrecovery.com And visit http://tonyoverbay.com and sign up to receive updates on upcoming programs and podcasts.Tony mentioned a product that he used to take out all of the "uh's" and "um's" that, in his words, "must be created by wizards and magic!" because it's that good! To learn more about Descript, click here https://descript.com?lmref=bSWcEQ 

In today’s episode, Tony delves deep into the hidden mechanisms that fuel toxic relationships. He uncovers the secret life of intermittent reinforcement, how it creates the “trauma bond,” and its powerful influence in addictive and toxic relationships, especially those involving narcissists or emotionally immature individuals. Pulling from the roots of B.F. Skinner's theories on operant conditioning and behaviorism, we'll journey through the ways in which behavior can be conditioned, manipulated, and maintained by external consequences.Get ready for a RIDE - a closer look at how "Reinforcement Intermittently Delivers Emotion," shaping relationships into addictive cycles that mimic the obsession of a rat repeatedly pressing a lever in the hope of an unpredictable reward. The scenario paints a vivid picture of the emotional roller coaster many endure at the hands of narcissists or emotionally immature individuals. Just as the rat persists despite the neglect of its needs, the partner in an abusive relationship finds themselves consumed with drawing out the abuser's fleeting affection. The relationship turns into an addiction, hard to break free from, mirroring patterns seen in other addictive behaviors like gambling or obsessive email checking.Unraveling the layers of intermittent reinforcement is key to breaking the cycle, and recognizing the behavior is the first step. This episode is a deep dive into understanding and recognizing the signs of this manipulation tactic, the addiction-like bond it forms, and the consequent self-blame. We also discuss how to navigate the withdrawal-like experience of breaking free, realign with personal values, and seek support. Remember, the strength of your enemy is the strength of your knowledge.Tony references the article "Intermittent Reinforcement" from https://feelingishealing.co.uk/intermittent-reinforcement/And Tony mentioned the powerful interview with Duff and Keirra Dyer about the passing of their daughter Emma in this episode on The Virtual Couch https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-virtual-couch/id1275153998?i=1000617024331Find all the latest links to podcasts, courses, Tony's newsletter, and more at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouchAnd follow Tony on the Virtual Couch YouTube channel for a sneak preview of his upcoming podcast "Murder on the Couch," where True Crime meets therapy, co-hosted with his daughter Sydney. You can watch a pre-release clip here https://youtu.be/-RkRq8SrQy0Subscribe to Tony's latest podcast, "Waking Up to Narcissism Q&A - Premium Podcast," on the Apple Podcast App. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-to-narcissism-q-a/id1667287384Go to http://tonyoverbay.com/workshop to sign up for Tony's "Magnetize Your Marriage" virtual workshop. The cost is only $19, and you'll learn the top 3 things you can do NOW to create a Magnetic Marriage. You can learn more about Tony's pornography recovery program, The Path Back, by visiting http://pathbackrecovery.com And visit http://tonyoverbay.com and sign up to receive updates on upcoming programs and podcasts.Tony mentioned a product that he used to take out all of the "uh's" and "um's" that, in his words, "must be created by wizards and magic!" because it's that good! To learn more about Descript, click here https://descript.com?lmref=bSWcEQ 

Tony delves into the profound impact of trauma and emotional neglect on relationship patterns. He shares the story of John, who endured a chaotic and emotionally neglectful upbringing with narcissistic parents, only to later marry Sarah, who exhibited similar traits. John's yearning for validation and acceptance kept him trapped in an emotionally abusive relationship, leading to anxiety, depression, and a sense of hopelessness. Breaking free from a narcissistic trauma bond is a challenging journey that demands immense courage and support.The podcast also explores how psychological trauma inflicted by narcissistic partners can take a toll on physical health. Tony shares a personal account from a woman who experienced narcissistic abuse, highlighting its impact on her mental and physical well-being. The importance of listening to one's body and acknowledging physical symptoms as signals for self-reflection and trigger identification is emphasized. Seeking timely support and prioritizing healing is crucial, given the complexities of recovering from mental trauma.Referencing the article "Remnants of Abuse and Manifestations of Trauma" by Kristy Lee Hochenberger, Ph.D.,https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/love-in-the-age-narcissism/202104/remnants-abuse-and-manifestations-trauma Tony delves into the diverse causes and effects of trauma. The author underscores the significance of recognizing emotional damage stemming from events like infidelity, accidents, and domestic violence, as therapists may become desensitized to traumatic stories. The signs of trauma can manifest physically, such as through headaches and fatigue, as well as emotionally, with outbursts, disordered eating, and substance abuse. Emotional and psychological signs of trauma from narcissistic abuse include emotional instability, high levels of mistrust, hopelessness, diminished self-esteem, and overpowering memories that contribute to depression and a lack of motivation. While recovery from emotional trauma is possible, it may leave scars or lingering effects. Victims are encouraged to seek help through online groups, therapy, and other resources. The podcast and article underscore the importance of healing, self-discovery, and support to break free from past cycles and foster healthier emotional expression and self-worth.Use the following code to purchase the 2023 Sex Summit for only $35 featuring Tony's presentation: Relationship Tools You Don't Know You Need - Tips and Tools Born From 15 Years of Practice w/1500 Couples. https://thedatingdivas.myshopify.com/discount/TONY23?redirect=%2Fproducts%2Fsex-seminar-2023Or use the following code to purchase 2020, 2021, 2023, and 2024 seminars for only $80: https://thedatingdivas.myshopify.com/discount/TONYBUNDLE23?redirect=%2Fproducts%2Fsex-seminar-2023-bundleFind all the latest links to podcasts, courses, Tony's newsletter, and more at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouchAnd follow Tony on the Virtual Couch YouTube channel for a sneak preview of his upcoming podcast "Murder on the Couch," where True Crime meets therapy, co-hosted with his daughter Sydney. You can watch a pre-release clip here https://youtu.be/-RkRq8SrQy0Subscribe to Tony's latest podcast, "Waking Up to Narcissism Q&A - Premium Podcast," on the Apple Podcast App. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-to-narcissism-q-a/id1667287384Go to http://tonyoverbay.com/workshop to sign up for Tony's "Magnetize Your Marriage" virtual workshop. The cost is only $19, and you'll learn the top 3 things you can do NOW to create a Magnetic Marriage. You can learn more about Tony's pornography recovery program, The Path Back, by visiting http://pathbackrecovery.com And visit http://tonyoverbay.com and sign up to receive updates on upcoming programs and podcasts.Tony mentioned a product that he used to take out all of the "uh's" and "um's" that, in his words, "must be created by wizards and magic!" because it's that good! To learn more about Descript, click here https://descript.com?lmref=bSWcEQ