
Let's Talk Loyalty
“Let’s Talk Loyalty” is an industry podcast for loyalty marketing professionals.
If you work in loyalty marketing, join us every week to learn the latest ideas and marketing insights from loyalty specialists around the world.
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Jan 23, 2025 • 42min
#637: Antavo's 2025 Global Customer Loyalty Report
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.Today, we are thrilled to be sharing global loyalty insights from a woman who is truly on a mission to drive our industry forward.Zsuzsa Kecsmar is the Co-Founder & Chief Strategy Officer of Antavo AI Loyalty Cloud, a loyalty software company she co-founded almost 14 years ago.Zsuzsa was also chosen last year as the “International Loyalty Personality of the Year”, partly because of her incredible work creating the Global Customer Loyalty Report which last year was downloaded by over 8,000 loyalty professionals.As you can imagine, Zsuzsa has even greater ambitions for the 2025 Global Customer Loyalty Report which was just released in the last couple of weeks and contains some incredible insights from both loyalty industry professionals as well as direct insights from over 10,000 loyalty programme members.Today Zsuzsa also shares all of the latest AI-led loyalty technology innovations at Antavo which are being designed and built based on feedback from some of their incredible global clients.I hope you enjoy our conversation with Zsuzsa Kecsmar from Antavo AI Loyalty Cloud.This episode is sponsored by Antavo AI Loyalty Cloud. Show notes:1) Zsuzsa Kecsmar2) 2025 Global Customer Loyalty Report3) Antavo AI Loyalty Cloud4) The Definitive Book Of Body Language by Allan Pease (Book)5) Loyalty Programs: The Complete Guide by Philip Shelper (Book)

Jan 21, 2025 • 51min
#636:- Fundamentos para gestionar estrategias de lealtad exitosas
This episode is in Spanish and is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.En el episodio de hoy compartimos con un panel de expertos en Loyalty en donde se comentan algunos de los fundamentos importantes que se deben considerar a la hora de construir y/o gestionar estrategias de lealtad. Se señaló la importancia de combinar elementos transaccionales con momentos emocionales, la innovación, el uso de la data, la visión Customer First, entre otros. Esperamos que disfruten la conversación con Gerardo y Franz.Hosted by Alex Saul.Show Notes:-1) Gerardo2) Franz 3)Crear o Morir (Book)4) Great by Choice (Book)

Jan 16, 2025 • 28min
#635: A Future Look at Loyalty Technologies with Tim Murphy
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.This episode was recorded in November 2024. The Wiser Loyalty podcast series for Let’s Talk Loyalty shifts its focus in 2025 to interview a series of C-Level executives who are influential in leading change in customer loyalty and loyalty marketing. Loyalty Academy™ Executive faculty members Bill Hanifin, CEO Wise Marketer Group, and Aaron Dauphinee CMO Wise Marketer Group will be hosting conversations with executives from a wide range of disciplines that impact the development of customer strategy and contribute to overall corporate profitability. In this week’s episode Bill and Aaron talk with a special guest and known loyalty SME, Tim Murphy, to share his thoughts on what the future of loyalty technology may look like in the nearer-term but also with an eye to the horizon. Tim has been a C-suite executive at 5 fortune 500 companies that include time as CIO and CTO to lead technology shared services and divisional to enterprise transformations. The conversation touches on the impact of artificial intelligence on loyalty technology, explores new concepts implied by the term "composable commerce" and looks into the future of how the tech stack required to support digital customer strategy will evolve in the coming year.Show notes:1) Tim Murphy2) Bill Hanifin3) Aaron Dauphinee4) Wise Marketer Group

Jan 14, 2025 • 43min
#634: Mastering Loyalty Commerce: Insights from Valuedynamx
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.In this episode Charlie Hills interviews Mary Beth Bell, a Senior Advisor at Valuedynamx, focused on driving growth in the U.S. market. With nearly 25 years of experience in the pay-for-performance space, MB has developed a deep expertise and passion for all things loyalty commerce. MB is also a true rewards enthusiast, racking up over 500,000 rewards points, miles, and cashback over the past two decades just by shopping.Today we will be learning about her favourite books and loyalty programmes, highlights and key learnings from the programmes she has worked on and all about Valuedynamx.Hosted by Charlie HillsThis show is sponsored by ValueDynamx. Show Notes : 1) Mary Beth Bell2) Valuedynamx3) The Alchemist 4) The Loyalty Effect: The Hidden Force Behind Growth, Profits, and Lasting Value5) European Loyalty Whitepaper 6) Mando Connect

Jan 9, 2025 • 44min
#633: A disruptive mindset creates 60% market share and 92% loyalty member penetration for retail banking in South Africa – Capitec Live Better Rewards
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.Capitec Live Better Rewards is 3.5 years old in a banking environment which is only 24 years old. However, age is meaningless as Capitec holds a 60% market share in South Africa’s retail banking industry, with 24 million clients. 22m of these clients are part of its rewards programme, called Live Better. It has already been re-launched, which epitomises Capitec’s disruptive mindset to create customer centricity throughout all it does.Kelly Goldsworthy is Head of Live Better Rewards with an engineering background and a laser focus on continuous improvement for the Live Better programme and its members. Kelly shares the journey to date and the fascinating statistics of its current engagement activities by different channels, encouraging all of us to re-think the norm and disrupt for the ultimate end game of greater customer centricity.Show Notes:- 1) Capitec Live Better Rewards2) Kelly Goldsworthy3) Live Better Rewards4) Blue Ocean Strategy (Book)5) Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make the Leap...And Others Don't (Book)

Jan 7, 2025 • 1h 2min
#632: Behind the Scenes of Australia’s Favourite Loyalty Program… Plus a Special Edition
Phil Hawkins, a loyalty veteran with over 30 years experience in the loyalty industry and a well known leading loyalty personality in Australia. Expertise in coalition programs, working extensively with Flybuys in Australia over several stints, from its inception in 1993. With leading roles at National Australia Bank, Coles and Myer, Phil has loyalty experience including program design, all aspects of program operation, and specific experience in email and digital communication These days, Phil is a keen loyalty observer, commentator, writer and occasionally creating mischief on LinkedIn.Hosted by Carly Neubauer Show Notes:1) Phil Hawkins2) The Loyalty Leap3)Omnichannel Retail 4) Flybuys

Jan 2, 2025 • 32min
#631: Let's Talk Loyalty and Loyalty TV in 2025 - NEWS and Updates
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.As 2025 kicks off, Paula Thomas and Pooja Venugopal today look back at some of the highlights for the show in 2024 and announce some exciting changes for 2025. Show Notes:1)Let's Talk Loyalty2)www.Loyalty.TV.3) Paula Thomas4) Pooja Venugopal 5) The 4-Hour work week6) Predictably Irrational

Dec 19, 2024 • 39min
#630: SAS Group in Scandinavia - Global Alliance Strategy and an Award-Winning Campaign
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.Today’s interview features the SAS Group, the Swedish airline holding company originally formed in 1946 after the merger of the three Scandinavian flag carriers serving Sweden, Denmark and Norway.It is now Scandinavia's leading airline, offering the most departures to, from and within Scandinavia.Like many airlines, the SAS Group has made significant changes to its corporate structure over the years and particularly this year to its global alliance strategy.SAS was one of the original founding members of the Star Alliance in 1997 which it left on 31 August 2024 and it then joined Skyteam the very next day on September 1st 2024! It's an incredible story.Joining us today to share some insights on their loyalty program and some recent award-winning loyalty-led campaigns is Olivia Wasniewski, who is the Head of the EuroBonus Program operated by SAS.Show notes:1) Olivia Wasniewski2) SAS Group3) SAS EuroBonus4) Watch the full video interview for free

Dec 18, 2024 • 49min
#629: Driving Loyalty Forward: Inside Arnold Clark Rewards with Emily Walker and Hema Kukadia
This episode focuses on Arnold Clark Rewards… the new loyalty programme from Arnold Clark. With Emily Walker, the Head of Media & Brand Marketing for Arnold Clark. And Hema Kukadia, a Partnerships Account Director at Mando-Connect. Today we will be learning about their favourite loyalty programmes, how Arnold Clark Rewards is delivering for customers and the business and all about their plans for the future.Hosted by Charlie HillsShow Notes :1.Emily Walker2.Hema Kukadia 3. Arnold Clark Rewards4.European Loyalty Whitepaper5.Mando-Connect6.YouGov

Dec 17, 2024 • 35min
#628: The Wiser Loyalty Series - 2024 Review and Exciting News for 2025
After an amazing first year of "The Wiser Loyalty Series", Founder and CEO of Let's Talk Loyalty and Loyalty TV, Paula Thomas, today hosts an episode with the brains behind the series.Today's epsiode explains how the partnership between Let's Talk Loyalty and The Wise Marketer group is evolving even further. Paula's guests are Bill Hanifin and Aaron Dauphinee,, CEO and Chief Marketing and Business Development Officer respectively for The Wise Marketer Group.Together they review the podcast series they created for Let's Talk Loyalty listeners in 2024, and the changes and further enhancements planned for 2025.Show notes:1) Bill Hanifin2) Aaron Dauphinee3) The Loyalty Academy™4) The Wise Marketer5) Paula Thomas
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