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Dec 1, 2022 • 50min

You Asked. We Answered. (Now We Have a Vulnerability Hangover)

Silly, shallow, serious, interstellar … we said we’d take any and all of your questions. And we get some good ones!Katelyn has been on jury duty. We had Thanksgiving break. Roxy is on vacation this week. So it seemed like a good time to let our listeners do some of the work for us. We took to social media to seek your "ask me anything" — AMA — style questions.And we totally go there.Plus, here to deliver your questions (and a few of his own) is a very special guest, out from behind the curtain, the Wizard of Audio, our producer Jonathan Woodward!
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Nov 24, 2022 • 50min

Why 'She Said' Is a Must-See + Alissa Wilkinson and Christine Emba

We do love a journalism movie.It's been five years since the NY Times exposé of Harvey Weinstein sparked the global #MeToo movement. And the new movie, "She Said," documents the two-steps-forward, one-step-back work of investigative reporters Megan Twohey and Jodi Kantor in uncovering the extent of Weinstein's abuses. "Pump it into my veins," is how Katelyn describes the movie. On this episode, Katelyn and Roxy discuss the new movie, the book it's based on, and where we are now.GUESTS: Christine Emba is an opinion columnist and editor for The Washington Post. She is the author of the new book Rethinking Sex: A Provocation. Alissa Wilkinson is a film, culture and food writer. She is the senior culture reporter at Vox.com, as well as an associate professor at The King’s College. She is the author of the new book “Salty: Lessons on eating, drinking and living from revolutionary women.”
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Nov 17, 2022 • 40min

The Midterms and the Myth of the Unmarried Woman + Karen Gonzalez on Immigration

Unmarried women are ruining everything! At least according to some people who went to Twitter, Fox News, and God only knows where else to bemoan last week's midterm election results — placing a large share of their disappointment at the feet of unmarried women, who broke strongly for Democrats. Suffice it to say, their words were not very nice. Anyway, politics aside, we think their vitriol was misguided — and we have the data to prove it!On this week's episode, Katelyn and Roxy dive into some research on the state of unmarried women and the church. We discuss the importance of "thick community" and the false promises of independence.Plus, we talk with Karen González, on how to move beyond "welcoming immigrants" to relationships of mutuality and kinship.GUEST: Karen González is an immigrant advocate, writer — and unmarried woman, by the way, who is kicking butt and taking names — and author of the new book "Beyond Welcome: Centering Immigrants in Our Christian Response to Immigration."  
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Nov 10, 2022 • 41min

The 7 Worst Things to Tell Your Single Friends

You're still young! You're too picky! Just put yourself out there more!We've heard some doozies. And, while most friends are well-meaning (if occasionally passive-aggressive), they aren't always aware of how these phrases can bump against some tender spots. You've heard of "How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days," but in this episode, Katelyn and Roxy bring you ...How to Lose Your Single Friends in 10 Words (Or Less).But, not to worry, we don't want to leave you feeling speechless. We also offer some thoughts on what to say instead and share our most meaningful experiences of feeling supported and loved by our married friends with kids.
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Nov 3, 2022 • 53min

We Thought We'd Be Moms. What We Think Now. + Erin S. Lane

It's the motherlode episode.Most women of a certain age (our age) have kids. They just do. And we don't. Living in that reality can be complicated — it's fun to be an "auntie," but it's not the same as being a mom — there's grief and there's gain. On this episode, Katelyn and Roxy grapple with their own winding paths to life without kids. We share what's it's meant to mourn that loss while finding ways to embrace the gifts of a childfree life.We're joined by Erin S. Lane who helps us challenge the default scripts of motherhood that society — and churches! — so often impose on women's lives.GUEST: Erin S. Lane is a writer, theologian, and author of "Someone Other Than a Mother." She has a masters in gender studies from Duke Divinity School and works as a vocational retreat facilitator.
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Oct 26, 2022 • 48min

Is My Church a Cult? & Other Spooky Questions + Sam Kestenbaum

Is this real blood we're drinking?There's an old joke that a religion is a cult plus time. So are we just late comers to a very old cult? Katelyn and Roxy explore this plus all the other scary things — like aging! — in our All Hallow's Eve episode. And religion reporter Sam Kestenbaum joins to talk vampires, mummies, QAnon devotees, and groups with some cult-y vibes (including maybe ... some of the churches we've attended).GUEST: Sam Kestenbaum is a religion reporter who has written for The New York Times, The Washington Post, RNS and many other outlets about fringe and fascinating religious groups.
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Oct 19, 2022 • 51min

How Christian Nationalism Became a Main Character in the Midterms + Jack Jenkins

The midterms ... truly the spookiest season of them all.Everyone seems to be talking about Christian nationalism right now. The phrase is in the air. And, while, there's plenty of focus on the evangelical vote every election cycle, this is not quite the same. Religion News Service, and especially religion and politics correspondent Jack Jenkins, has long been covering this new iteration of Christian nationalism. So, for this special episode, in the run up to the midterms, Roxy talks with Jack about his (award-winning) reporting on Christian nationalism over the past few years.What is it? Where did it come from? And why is it playing such an outsized role in American politics right now?GUEST: Jack Jenkins is a national reporter for RNS based in Washington, covering the intersection of religion and politics as well as U.S. Catholics. He is the author of “American Prophets: The Religious Roots of Progressive Politics and the Ongoing Fight for the Soul of the Country.”This episode was produced with support from The Stiefel Freethought Foundation.
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Oct 12, 2022 • 37min

Men and Women Can Be Friends! Kinda. Sorta. Maybe. Depends.

Can men and women just be friends or does the sex always get in the way?Billy Graham and Billy Crystal both seemed to believe the answer was: nope and yes, always.A rare instance of overlap in the evangelical-Hollywood Venn diagram, perhaps. But maybe it shouldn't be? In this episode, Katelyn and Roxy discuss their own friendships with men: when and how they've worked — and why they sometimes haven't. And we explore the vision Christianity offers for non-romantic, opposite sex relationships. Plus: coarse joking! Whatever that means.
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Oct 5, 2022 • 48min

My Utmost Anxiety for His Highest + Charles Marsh

Oh, the pressure of perfection.Is there anyone who reads the Bible with the intensity of an evangelical 12-year-old? So asks Charles Marsh, our guest for this episode and the author of "Evangelical Anxiety: A Memoir."We resonate.Katelyn and Roxy reflect on the amped up nature of an evangelical upbringing, recalling childhood fantasies of martyrdom, the high stakes proposal of eternal salvation or damnation, and Christian bumper stickers.GUEST: Charles Marsh is a professor of religious studies at the University of Virginia and director of the Project on Lived Theology. Charles grew up as a preacher’s kid in the Deep South in the 1970s and writes about those experiences in his new book "Evangelical Anxiety: A Memoir."
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Sep 28, 2022 • 42min

Why Are Christians Soooo Serious? + Annie F. Downs

Let's be honest: Christians seem uniquely bad at having a good time.We get it: slippery slopes, dens of iniquity, roads to hell, etc. But maybe we've taken the Puritan instinct a little too far? Made everything that's fun suspect? Maybe it's time to lighten up a bit, look around at all God's created and go delight in it? Well, we'd like to give it a try anyway.This week, "fun coach" Annie F. Downs joins Katelyn and Roxy to go deep on being lighthearted. She makes the case for why fun is essential to our calling. Plus: speed dating!GUEST: Annie F. Downs is a NYT Bestselling author, self-appointed "fun coach" and founder of the "That Sounds Fun" podcast network. Check out her newest book, "Chase the Fun: 100 Days to Discover Fun Right Where You Are." 

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