
The Next Chapter by American Express Business Class
Join the host Cardiff Garcia as he speaks with best-selling business authors. Each episode will focus on an essential work in our guest’s career and culminate in a look ahead to their next chapter. The series will offer inspiration for those looking to expand their business or elevate their career. This season, our guests will include Maria Konnikova, Mashama Bailey and John O. Morisano, David Epstein, Susan Cain, Julie Zhuo and James Clear.
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Aug 2, 2023 • 38min
James Clear on “Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones”
What's the best way to achieve long-term results in tiny increments? In "Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones," author and entrepreneur James Clear details how focusing on small changes can transform your life. Sure, luck, randomness and uncertainty play a role in our fortunes, but habits matter because you control the outcomes. In "The Next Chapter" by American Express Business Class, author Clear and host Cardiff Garcia discuss techniques for habit formation and how it can have a meaningful impact in business and the workplace.

Jul 19, 2023 • 33min
Julie Zhuo on “The Making of a Manager: What to Do When Everyone Looks to You”
Julie Zhuo, author of 'The Making of a Manager,' discusses challenges for new managers, including managing former peers and tough one-on-one conversations. She also reflects on managing during tough times, navigating a remote work environment, and the value of different perspectives within a team.

Jul 5, 2023 • 34min
Susan Cain on “Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking”
Ever notice that extroverts get more shine than introverts? In her book, "Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking," Susan Cain gives introverts center stage by showing how much they lose each time we undervalue them. Through research and interviews with extraordinary people, "Quiet" changes the narrative around introverts and, more importantly, transforms how they see themselves. In this episode of the podcast "The Next Chapter" by American Express Business Class, Cain and host Cardiff Garcia discuss how introverts thrive in the workplace and excel in surprising ways.

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Jun 21, 2023 • 36min
David Epstein on “Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World”
Are some people predisposed to being a generalist versus a specialist? In his book, "Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World," author David Epstein discovers that early specialization is an exception, not the rule. Epstein, a former science and investigative reporter, argues that to succeed in any field, one must develop an array of interests. In interviews with renowned athletes, inventors and scientists, he explores the power of diverse experiences in a world that requires hyperspecialization. In this episode of the podcast "The Next Chapter" by American Express Business Class, Epstein and host Cardiff Garcia discuss the virtues of being a generalist on a trajectory to success.

Jun 7, 2023 • 27min
Mashama Bailey and John O. Morisano on “Black, White and The Grey: The Story of an Unexpected Friendship and a Beloved Restaurant"
What’s the recipe behind some of the world’s most-successful partnerships? Why do some flourish while others fail disastrously? In their dual memoir, “Black, White and The Grey: The Story of an Unexpected Friendship and a Beloved Restaurant,” co-owners Mashama Bailey and John O. Morisano detail how a Black chef from Queens and a white media entrepreneur from Staten Island built an award-winning restaurant in Savannah, Ga., called The Grey. Theirs is a masterclass on building a company while bridging biases on race, class, gender and culture in the heart of the Deep South. In this episode of the podcast "The Next Chapter" by American Express Business Class, Bailey, Morisano and host Cardiff Garcia explore the coveted ingredients needed to forge a powerful alliance.

May 24, 2023 • 32min
Maria Konnikova on “The Biggest Bluff: How I Learned to Pay Attention, Master Myself and Win”
Can a game help us explore life's answers? Or teach us about our own existence? Poker, neither a game of chance nor of mathematical precision, may hold clues. In her book "The Biggest Bluff: How I Learned to Pay Attention, Master Myself and Win," the psychologist and best-selling author Maria Konnikova enters the world of high-stakes poker as a novice and transforms into an expert. Along the way, she investigates the role that luck plays in our lives and why we can't control everything. In this episode of the podcast “The Next Chapter” by American Express Business Class, Konnikova and host Cardiff Garcia discuss what poker can teach us about better decision making.

May 22, 2023 • 3min
The Next Chapter Returns for a New Season
The Next Chapter by American Express Business Class is back for a second season. In each episode, Cardiff Garcia will speak to a best-selling author from the world of business. Our guests this season will be Maria Konnikova, Mashama Bailey and John O. Morisano, David Epstein, Susan Cain, Julie Zhuo and James Clear.

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Aug 24, 2022 • 32min
Malcolm Gladwell on “Revisionist History” and Pushkin Industries
In the final episode of the season, Cardiff Garcia is joined by Malcolm Gladwell to discuss his work as co-founder and president of the audio production company Pushkin Industries, and host of “Revisionist History,” the successful podcast in which he reconsiders overlooked or misunderstood events of the past. The conversation took place in Pushkin’s recording studio in Hudson, N.Y., with topics spanning from what it means to challenge conventional wisdom to the delicate science of “hiring nihilism.”

Aug 10, 2022 • 35min
Priya Parker on “The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters”
How can the principles of conflict resolution apply to your next gathering? Priya Parker, a facilitator, strategic adviser and best-selling author of the book “The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters,” makes the case that coming together involves more than the proper etiquette – it’s the connection between the people. In this episode, Parker instructs listeners on how to plan more meaningful gatherings, from the birthday party to the boardroom meeting.

Jul 27, 2022 • 34min
Adam Grant on “Originals: How Non-Conformists Move the World”
Adam Grant, an organizational psychologist and best-selling author, discusses the importance of originality and creativity. He explores the tension between originality and conventional success and shares strategies for managing work and productivity. Grant also emphasizes the value of evaluating new ideas and the role of creative peers. He advocates for thinking like a scientist and highlights the impact of loneliness on originals. Additionally, he emphasizes the dangers of relying too heavily on existing knowledge.
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