
Decoder with Nilay Patel
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
Latest episodes

63 snips
Sep 23, 2024 • 1h 12min
Arc creator Josh Miller on why you need a better browser than Chrome
In this engaging discussion, Josh Miller, co-founder and CEO of The Browser Company, dives into the innovative features of the Arc browser, crafted to enhance productivity. He shares insights on the challenges of competing against industry giants like Chrome and Safari while highlighting the importance of AI in transforming online interactions. Josh also tackles the complexities of web publishing, emphasizing the need to support content creators in the evolving digital landscape. Get ready for a fresh perspective on the future of web browsing and the dynamics of innovation!

21 snips
Sep 19, 2024 • 35min
Why Google is back in court for another monopoly showdown
Lauren Feiner, a Senior policy reporter at The Verge, dives into Google's latest antitrust showdown over its online advertising monopoly. She shares insights gathered from courtroom testimonies, detailing how publishers feel trapped by Google's dominance. The case unpacks complex issues surrounding Google's ad tech ecosystem and its past acquisition of DoubleClick. The discussions raise critical questions about competition in the advertisement landscape and the potential ramifications of ongoing legal battles for the tech industry.

12 snips
Sep 16, 2024 • 1h 11min
How Philips CEO Roy Jakobs is turning the company around after major recall
Roy Jakobs, CEO of Royal Philips, discusses the company's significant shift from a diversified conglomerate to a focused healthcare powerhouse. He explores the challenges of millions of recalled breathing machines tied to tragic outcomes, emphasizing the importance of patient safety and trust. Jakobs also highlights how AI is reshaping medical devices, aiming to streamline healthcare delivery. The conversation dives into Philips' extensive restructuring to enhance agility and responsiveness, ensuring that innovation thrives while addressing previous controversies.

12 snips
Sep 12, 2024 • 46min
Why AI image editing isn’t “just like Photoshop”
Jess Weatherbed, a Verge reporter specializing in AI and its impact on image editing, joins the discussion on the fundamental differences between traditional tools like Photoshop and modern AI capabilities. They dive into how AI image editing democratizes creativity, yet raises ethical concerns about trust and authenticity. The conversation highlights the complexities of discerning reality in a world flooded with manipulated images, particularly affecting youth and mental health. Finally, they explore regulatory needs to address the challenges posed by deepfakes and AI-generated content.

118 snips
Sep 9, 2024 • 1h 23min
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype
In this lively conversation, Mike Krieger, the Chief Product Officer at Anthropic and co-founder of Instagram, shares his journey into the AI landscape. He discusses the rise and fall of his news app, Artifact, and the lessons learned from its shutdown. Mike dives into the potential of AI in creative industries, navigating misinformation, and the intricacies of product development at Anthropic. He reflects on how collaboration and innovation are reshaping AI, all while addressing ethical concerns and user feedback in technology.

10 snips
Sep 5, 2024 • 44min
How the Wayback Machine is fighting linkrot
Mark Graham, director of the Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive, joins the discussion about the critical issue of link rot and the ongoing effort to preserve internet history. He explains how the Wayback Machine allows users to view snapshots of past websites, combating the loss of digital content. The conversation dives into the challenges of archiving a rapidly changing web landscape, including the impact of closed platforms on access to information and the emotional weight of preserving our online cultural legacy.

4 snips
Aug 29, 2024 • 45min
The AI election deepfakes have arrived
Adi Robertson, Verge policy editor, delves into the impending wave of AI-generated deepfakes affecting the 2024 elections. They discuss the evolution of disinformation since 2016 and the struggles social media platforms face in moderating misleading content. With instances like AI-altered endorsements surfacing, ethical questions regarding regulation versus free speech arise. The conversation also touches on the need for legal frameworks to combat misuse while addressing the psychological challenges voters face in deciphering reality from fabrication.

Aug 26, 2024 • 42min
Disney Is a Tech Company?
Explore the intriguing evolution of Disney as it strives to redefine itself as a tech company amidst the streaming revolution. Delve into the challenges faced by Disney Plus as it competes with giants like Netflix and Amazon. Discover how shifting consumer habits are reshaping traditional media distribution. The discussion highlights Disney's strategic partnerships and adaptations in the dynamic landscape of streaming technology, all while addressing the intersection of productivity and creative opportunities in the entertainment industry.

17 snips
Aug 22, 2024 • 1h 2min
How The Onion is saving itself from the digital media death spiral
Ben Collins, CEO of The Onion and former disinformation reporter, joins Danielle Strle, Chief Product Officer with a background at Tumblr, to discuss how they're revitalizing the iconic satire site. They share their ambitious plan to relaunch the website and return to print while honoring The Onion's cultural legacy. The duo highlights the importance of diversifying revenue amidst the shifts in media consumption and explores innovative strategies to engage audiences in a saturated digital landscape. Their commitment to satire as a tool for combating misinformation shines through.

37 snips
Aug 19, 2024 • 1h 21min
GitHub CEO Thomas Dohmke says the AI industry needs competition to thrive
Thomas Dohmke, CEO of GitHub, shares insights on the necessity of competition in the AI industry for driving innovation. He discusses GitHub’s transformation into a hub for software development and the significance of AI tools like GitHub Copilot. The podcast covers the balance between accessibility and security in AI model integration and explores the vibrant open vs. closed source debate. Dohmke emphasizes collaboration within Microsoft and GitHub to enhance developer experiences while ensuring the human element remains integral to coding.