

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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Dec 11, 2024 • 38min
Why every company wants a podcast now
In this discussion, Nick Quah, a prominent podcast critic from Vulture, analyzes the fascinating intersection of podcasts and corporate strategy. He examines how companies, particularly in finance, increasingly use podcasts for branding and communication. The conversation explores why venture capitalists leverage this medium for engagement and political connection. Quah highlights the risks of commercialization in podcasting and the challenge of maintaining authenticity amidst evolving audience expectations.

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Dec 9, 2024 • 1h 13min
Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman says conversational AI is the next web browser
Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft AI and co-founder of DeepMind, dives into the future of AI as a transformative force. He discusses the evolution of conversational AI, comparing its impact to that of web browsers. The conversation covers Microsoft’s strategic partnership with OpenAI and the ethical dilemmas of AI training data. Suleyman also shares insights on the integration of AI in consumer products, the balance between innovation and legal challenges, and the shift toward voice-first technology, all while emphasizing the need for transparency and user trust.

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Dec 5, 2024 • 34min
AI is a money pit — here’s why investors don’t mind
Tim Tilly, a partner at Menlo Ventures, and Nathan Benaich, the founder of Air Street Capital and author of the State of AI Report, dive into the massive investments flooding the AI sector while profits seem elusive. They discuss the dramatic rise in AI spending—from $2.3 billion to $13.8 billion—and the challenges in ROI. The guests also explore the emergence of AI agents that promise efficiency but come with economic considerations, and they highlight the optimism for future advancements in AI technology despite current financial hurdles.

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Dec 2, 2024 • 1h 11min
Rewind: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber on the future of federated social media
Jay Graber, CEO of Bluesky, discusses the explosive growth of the social media platform, which surged to over 20 million users following the election. She delves into the principles of decentralization and user customization that underpin Bluesky's design. The conversation touches on unique community culture, challenges in moderation, and strategies for monetization. Graber also highlights the importance of user feedback in shaping the platform and contrasts Bluesky's protocol with others like ActivityPub, emphasizing the future of federated social media.

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Nov 25, 2024 • 53min
GoDaddy CEO Aman Bhutani on the enduring power of the website
Aman Bhutani, CEO of GoDaddy since 2019, discusses the evolving relevance of websites in a landscape dominated by social media and AI. He emphasizes that personal websites enhance brand legitimacy and customer trust for small businesses. Aman highlights GoDaddy's strategic shift towards integrated services and AI tools, aiming to empower entrepreneurs. The conversation also explores the impact of generative AI on web design and decision-making, as well as the need for independent websites amidst increasing AI-generated content.

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Nov 21, 2024 • 30min
Remix: Google Zero is here — now what?
In this engaging discussion, Giselle Navarro, the managing editor of HouseFresh, addresses the dramatic changes in Google's algorithms and their disruptive impact on small websites. She shares her alarming experience of significant traffic loss due to 'Google Zero.' The conversation delves into the challenges independent content creators face in an AI-dominated search landscape and emphasizes the need for community trust and alternative platforms to sustain engagement. Navarro also raises concerns about transparency in Google's operations and how businesses can adapt to these rapid shifts.

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Nov 18, 2024 • 41min
Will the world end before I can retire?
Jonquilyn Hill, host of Explain It To Me, teams up with Brian Walsh, a Vox editor and climate expert, and Vivian Tu, a finance influencer known for her accessible advice. They dive into the pressing concerns of retirement planning amid AI advancements and climate crises. The trio discusses the challenges young people face today when saving for the future, the balance between enjoying the present and planning for uncertainties, and the rising need for adaptability in financial strategies. It's a mix of humor, wisdom, and practical tips!

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Nov 14, 2024 • 36min
How Trump’s second term could be bad for EVs, but great for Tesla
In this discussion, Andy Hawkins, Verge transportation editor and expert on the automotive industry, delves into the complex relationship between Elon Musk and Donald Trump. They explore how Musk's political influence might shape the future of Tesla amid Trump’s climate policies. The conversation also highlights potential challenges for the electric vehicle market under a second Trump administration, especially concerning tariffs and regulatory changes. Can Tesla thrive in a contradicting political landscape?

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Nov 11, 2024 • 1h 11min
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.
Harvey Mason Jr., CEO of the Recording Academy and seasoned music producer, dives into the evolving landscape of the Grammy Awards. He discusses the importance of diversity and adaptation in a rapidly changing industry influenced by streaming and AI. Mason highlights the need for reforms in Grammy voting and membership to genuinely reflect today’s artists. He also addresses challenges like genre categorization and the impact of technology on creative integrity, urging a balanced approach to innovation while honoring human artistry.

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Nov 7, 2024 • 39min
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"
Jessica Kriegel, chief strategy officer at Culture Partners, and Stephan Meier, a professor at Columbia Business School, explore the shifting landscape of work post-pandemic. They discuss how return-to-office mandates may reflect deeper issues of trust and control. The conversation dives into Amazon's policy changes and contrasts industry approaches, revealing a growing preference for hybrid models. With a humorous touch, they examine the complexities of collaboration in different work environments and challenge the assumption that a return to the office is always beneficial.