

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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Feb 23, 2021 • 1h 7min
Evil Geniuses' CEO Nicole LaPointe Jameson on how to run an esports company
Nicole LaPointe Jameson, CEO of Evil Geniuses, shares insights from her unique journey in esports, emphasizing innovative revenue models and strategic partnerships. She discusses how the industry is evolving, particularly the intricate dynamics between teams and game publishers. Jameson highlights the role of data-driven decision-making and the importance of diversity in team building. She also tackles challenges within the esports ecosystem, including audience engagement and the need for inclusivity, showcasing how these factors are shaping the future of gaming.

Feb 16, 2021 • 1h 8min
CNBC’s Jon Fortt on GameStop, Robinhood, and wallstreetbets
In this engaging discussion, CNBC anchor Jon Fortt, known for his sharp insights on business and technology, delves into the GameStop stock phenomenon sparked by retail investors and the impact of Robinhood on market accessibility. He shares his thoughts on the ethics of free trading and its implications for financial democratization. Additionally, Fortt explores his course, 'The Black Experience in America,' emphasizing the importance of education in addressing racial issues and promoting economic participation for future generations.

Feb 9, 2021 • 1h 7min
Black Software author on technology’s role in racial justice
In this episode, Charlton McIlwain, a Professor at NYU and author of Black Software, dives into the vital role technology plays in racial justice. He discusses the contributions of Black communities to tech and the historical roots of surveillance technologies used in policing. McIlwain emphasizes the need for equity in digital spaces and the importance of recognizing Black culture in online activism. Additionally, he explores the creator economy's dynamics and how technology can empower marginalized communities to innovate and challenge systemic issues.

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Feb 1, 2021 • 54min
Venture Capitalism isn’t just for Venture Capitalists, with Arlan Hamilton
Arlan Hamilton, the founder of Backstage Capital, is on a mission to uplift underrepresented founders in the venture capital space. She delves into the systemic barriers in tech funding and the shift towards diversity. Arlan shares her groundbreaking approach to democratizing investments, making opportunities accessible to everyone, not just the elite. The conversation also touches on the importance of building trust and relationships with entrepreneurs and highlights how diverse voices are reshaping the innovation landscape.

Jan 26, 2021 • 56min
The SolarWinds hack: cyber attacks and national security with Reuters reporter Joseph Menn
Joseph Menn, a renowned cybersecurity reporter for Reuters and author of 'Cult of the Dead Cow,' dives deep into the SolarWinds hack, revealing how Russian hackers exploited supply chain vulnerabilities to breach major U.S. entities. The discussion touches on the failures of security agencies to detect the breach and the implications for national security. Menn emphasizes the need for better collaboration between the government and private sectors while exploring the evolution of hackers and the challenges of securing national elections amid rising cyber threats.

Jan 22, 2021 • 1h 2min
Marques Brownlee on how to scale MKBHD while being the face of the YouTube brand
Marques Brownlee, a renowned tech reviewer and YouTuber behind MKBHD, shares insights on scaling a brand while being a prominent face in the industry. He discusses the evolution of his channel from solo creation to teamwork, emphasizing the importance of delegation. The conversation dives into YouTube monetization strategies and the ethical dilemmas of sponsorships. Marques also highlights the responsibility creators have in influencing their audience and adapting to platform changes while ensuring quality content remains a priority.

Jan 19, 2021 • 1h 5min
Instagram’s Adam Mosseri on the future of Reels, moderation, and the responsibility of social media platforms
Adam Mosseri, head of Instagram and a veteran of Facebook, dives into the intricate balance of creativity and safety on the platform. He discusses the challenges of content moderation and the societal impact of algorithms, particularly in light of democratic principles. Mosseri shares insights on the future of Instagram's features like Reels and IGTV amid fierce competition from TikTok. He emphasizes the growing responsibility of social media in combating misinformation while maintaining user engagement and expression.

Jan 12, 2021 • 60min
Trump, Twitter, and the First Amendment, with platform moderation expert Daphne Keller
Daphne Keller, Director of the Program on Platform Regulation at Stanford's Cyber Policy Center, discusses internet platform moderation in the wake of the Capitol attack. She highlights the challenges of balancing free speech with regulatory responsibilities, the implications of Section 230, and the power dynamics of tech giants. Keller also addresses the psychological toll on content moderators, potential consequences of repealing Section 230, and the need for evolving strategies in content moderation. A thought-provoking conversation on the future of online discourse.

Dec 22, 2020 • 47min
The business of meatless meat with Beyond Meat CEO Ethan Brown
Ethan Brown, the founder and CEO of Beyond Meat, discusses the booming demand for plant-based proteins, especially during the pandemic. He shares insights on how meat shortages led to increased interest in meat alternatives and the impact of COVID-19 on the food supply chain. Ethan highlights Beyond Meat's unique approach to structuring their business and competing in the market. He also delves into innovative methods for transforming legumes into meat-like textures and the importance of ethical considerations in the evolving protein landscape.

Dec 15, 2020 • 1h 1min
How the @!#$ does advertising work, with Cadillac CMO Melissa Grady
In this engaging conversation, Cadillac's CMO, Melissa Grady, shares her expertise in data-driven marketing. She discusses how technology has revolutionized advertising, from social media strategies to embracing influencers. Grady elaborates on the complexities of modern ad buying and the challenges posed by data privacy changes. She highlights Cadillac's storytelling approach, especially around the Escalade, and the brand's adaptations during the pandemic, including the innovative ShopClickDrive platform to meet shifting consumer preferences.