

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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Jun 22, 2021 • 1h 3min
Patreon CEO Jack Conte on why creators can’t depend on platforms
Jack Conte, co-founder and CEO of Patreon, dives deep into the creator economy and the direct payment model that supports artists. He discusses the challenges creators face with traditional revenue streams and how Patreon fosters closer bonds between them and their fans. Jack emphasizes the importance of transparency in financial decisions and navigating monetization challenges, all while underscoring the need for creators to build authentic relationships with their audiences amid a shifting digital landscape.

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Jun 15, 2021 • 1h 2min
John Deere CTO Jahmy Hindman on farming, data, and fixing the tractors of the future
Jahmy Hindman, Chief Technology Officer at John Deere, leads discussions on the intersection of technology and agriculture. He shares insights on how precision farming is reshaping equipment through advanced computing, highlighting the challenges of connectivity and climate change. Hindman explores the significance of the 'Right to Repair' movement, addressing farmers' struggles with software restrictions. Additionally, he delves into the ongoing semiconductor chip shortage and the push towards electric machinery, envisioning a tech-driven future for farming.

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Jun 8, 2021 • 1h 3min
The next generation of startups is remote, with Y Combinator's Michael Siebel
Michael Seibel, managing director of Y Combinator and co-founder of Justin.tv (now Twitch), dives into the future of remote startups. He discusses the shift towards remote work and its implications for inclusivity in entrepreneurship. Seibel highlights the challenges faced by underrepresented founders and the evolving creator economy, particularly how it opens new avenues for small businesses. He also reflects on the importance of mission-driven startups and the role of platforms like Reddit in shaping economic opportunities.

Jun 1, 2021 • 1h 4min
Why Spotify’s chief legal officer called Apple a “ruthless bully”
Horacio Gutierrez, Spotify’s head of global affairs and chief legal officer, is known for his outspoken criticism of Apple’s App Store policies. He discusses the frustrations developers face, particularly Apple's 30% fee and monopolistic practices, referencing his recent testimony before Congress. Horacio advocates for regulatory changes to foster innovation and competition. He also explores how these tensions mirror issues musicians face on streaming platforms, highlighting the need for industry transparency and better artist support.

May 25, 2021 • 1h
How to build everything, with Flex CEO Revathi Advaithi
Revathi Advaithi, the CEO of Flex, discusses the intricate world of manufacturing, where her company is a leader in creating everything from hair dryers to advanced electric vehicle systems. She delves into the challenges of the global chip shortage and how it reshapes business strategies. The conversation covers the rise of automation, the need for workforce reskilling, and the ethical considerations of manufacturing in today's geopolitical landscape. Revathi also emphasizes Flex's commitment to sustainability and investments in transformative technologies.

May 20, 2021 • 45min
Ford CEO Jim Farley on building the electric F-150 — and reinventing Ford
Jim Farley, CEO of Ford Motor Company, dives into the exhilarating world of electric vehicles, particularly the F-150 Lightning and Mustang Mach-E. He discusses how cars are evolving into high-tech platforms with capabilities to upgrade like software. The conversation reveals Ford's strategic advantages against competitors like Tesla and addresses the challenges posed by the chip shortage. Farley emphasizes the need for standardization in charging technology and the importance of making vehicles more upgradable in this software-driven automotive landscape.

May 11, 2021 • 55min
Facebook’s Oversight Board has upheld the Trump ban. What’s next?
In this engaging discussion, Kate Klonick, a law professor at St. John’s University and an expert on Facebook's Oversight Board, shares insights from her extensive research on content moderation. She delves into the board’s crucial decision to uphold Donald Trump's ban, highlighting the challenges of maintaining independence and legitimacy in moderation. Kate emphasizes the need for clearer policies on platform bans and explores the implications for freedom of expression and social media governance globally. Discover how this ruling could shape the future of digital content oversight.

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May 4, 2021 • 60min
How Shopify’s network of small businesses can take on Amazon
In a compelling discussion, Harley Finkelstein, President of Shopify, shares insights into how his platform empowers small businesses to thrive against tech giants like Amazon. He highlights Shopify's critical role during the pandemic and the importance of direct consumer relationships. The conversation dives into the complexities of content moderation and maintaining ethical standards in e-commerce. Additionally, Harley reveals the innovative Shopify Fulfillment Network that helps independent sellers enhance their logistics while preserving brand identity.

Apr 27, 2021 • 47min
Senator Amy Klobuchar takes on Apple with antitrust law
Senator Amy Klobuchar, a prominent advocate for antitrust reform and consumer protection, discusses her new book on monopolistic practices and the rise of tech giants. She reflects on recent hearings targeting Apple's App Store dominance and the urgent need for legislative change. Klobuchar emphasizes the bipartisan support for antitrust reform while navigating the complexities of regulating big tech. The conversation also touches on the impact of innovation on consumer rights and the future challenges of privacy in a rapidly evolving technological landscape.

Apr 20, 2021 • 1h 2min
How Anjali Sud stopped worrying about YouTube and reinvented Vimeo
Anjali Sud, CEO of Vimeo, transformed the platform from indie streaming to a thriving video SaaS for businesses. She discusses Vimeo's rapid growth, its unique subscription-based model, and the challenges of monetizing creator content. Anjali also dives into navigating video distribution strategies and the importance of customizing content for various platforms. With an upcoming IPO, she reflects on the pressures of being public, the evolving creator economy, and how Vimeo aims to support creators while ensuring long-term growth.