

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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Jan 6, 2022 • 30min
Pete Buttigieg is racing to keep up with self-driving cars
In an engaging discussion, U.S. Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg, a key figure in modernizing infrastructure and promoting innovation, joins Andrew Hawkins from The Verge. They dive into the $1 trillion infrastructure plan, focusing on electric vehicle charging networks and the need for updated regulations to support self-driving technology. The duo also explores public transit solutions to reduce car dependency and the evolving landscape of driver’s licenses in an era of autonomous cars. Buttigieg emphasizes the importance of equitable access to transportation resources for all communities.

Dec 21, 2021 • 59min
How Logitech bet big on work from home
Bracken Darrell, the CEO of Logitech, dives into how the pandemic reshaped Logitech's business, significantly boosting hardware demand as we all adapted to remote work. He discusses his strategic pivot towards services and the challenges of navigating global supply chain issues. The conversation also touches on the controversial discontinuation of the Harmony remote line and Logitech's focus on innovative keyboards tailored for gaming. Finally, Bracken sheds light on Logitech's emerging role in the competitive smart home market, balancing innovation with partnership strategies.

Dec 16, 2021 • 45min
Can we regulate social media without breaking the First Amendment?
Jameel Jaffer, the Executive Director of the Knight First Amendment Institute, dives into the complex world of social media regulation. He unpacks the rare bipartisan agreement on the need for regulation while grappling with First Amendment challenges. Jaffer discusses contrasting editorial practices between social media platforms and traditional media, as well as the legal implications surrounding Section 230. The conversation also covers potential court decisions that could influence social media legislation and the future landscape of digital free speech.

Dec 14, 2021 • 1h 6min
The metaverse is already here — and it’s full of Pokemon, says Niantic CEO John Hanke
John Hanke, CEO of Niantic, the mastermind behind Pokemon Go, dives deep into the evolving metaverse. He highlights how augmented reality (AR) is transforming our interactions with the real world, contrasting it with VR's isolating nature. Hanke shares fascinating insights on the emotional complexities of game development and the discontinuation of less popular titles. He emphasizes the importance of genuine human connections in a digital landscape, envisioning a future where AR enhances everyday experiences, like walking with Pikmin Bloom.

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Dec 7, 2021 • 1h 5min
From a meme to $47 million: ConstitutionDAO, crypto, and the future of crowdfunding
Jonah Ehrlich, a software engineer and core contributor to ConstitutionDAO, shares the thrilling tale of raising $47 million to bid on an original U.S. Constitution copy. He discusses the spontaneous birth of the project from a meme and its governance challenges in decentralized crowdfunding. Ehrlich explores the emotional rollercoaster of the auction, the complexities of token investments, and what accountability means in crypto fundraising. The conversation highlights the potential future impact of decentralized organizations and how community engagement shapes their success.

Nov 30, 2021 • 50min
How an Excel TikToker manifested her way to making six figures a day
Kat Norton, better known as Miss Excel, is a renowned Microsoft Excel influencer with over a million followers on TikTok and Instagram. In this episode, she discusses her phenomenal journey from consultant to educator, revealing how she manifests success. Kat shares her unique approach to social media and its role in her six-figure daily revenue. She dives into the importance of authenticity and creative strategies for audience engagement, alongside insights on balancing content creation, personal branding, and upcoming Excel courses.

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Nov 16, 2021 • 1h 12min
Why the future of work is the future of travel, with Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky
Brian Chesky, Co-founder and CEO of Airbnb, shares his unique vision for the future of work and travel. He discusses how the pandemic reshaped Airbnb, leading to a focus on community and seamless experiences. Chesky explores the company's shift to a centralized structure, emphasizing collaboration over division. He also reflects on Airbnb's evolving relationship with cities and the potential of virtual experiences, like NFTs and the metaverse, in travel. His innovative mindset offers a fresh perspective on what lies ahead for travel and hospitality.

Nov 9, 2021 • 1h 3min
Why charging phones is such a complex business, with Anker CEO Steven Yang
In a lively conversation, Steven Yang, CEO of Anker Innovations, discusses the evolution of his company from phone chargers to a tech accessory giant. He dives into the impacts of gallium nitride technology on efficiency and fast charging. The complexities of navigating Amazon's marketplace and the push for USB-C standards in Europe also take center stage. Yang shares insights on how consumer behavior is shaping the market and the importance of user experience design in tech products.

Nov 4, 2021 • 21min
The secrets of the first real smartphone, with Dieter Bohn
Dieter Bohn, Verge executive editor and creator of the documentary "Springboard," dives into the fascinating story of Handspring, a pioneering smartphone startup. He shares insights about the challenges it faced and the ambition of early innovators. Discover how Handspring's influence shaped modern mobile software and the Android ecosystem. Bohn also discusses the complexities of tech innovation and offers a sneak peek of an exclusive documentary clip that didn't make the final cut. Tune in for a riveting exploration of smartphone history!

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Nov 1, 2021 • 43min
Meta’s Andrew Bosworth on moving Facebook to the metaverse
Andrew Bosworth, Vice President of Reality Labs at Meta, dives into the bold rebranding of Facebook to Meta, centering around their vision for the metaverse. He discusses the journey from content moderation to the integration of AR and VR technologies. Bosworth reveals how they’re addressing user experience challenges, especially with changes to Oculus accounts and the role of blockchain and NFTs. He also shares insights on the innovations coming in AR glasses and the quest for a seamless, interoperable user experience in this new digital frontier.