

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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Jun 17, 2024 • 1h 7min
Why Tubi CEO Anjali Sud thinks free TV can win again
Anjali Sud, CEO of Tubi—a fast-growing free streaming platform—discusses how Tubi stands out in a competitive streaming landscape. She explains why increasing subscription costs make free options appealing. Sud elaborates on Tubi's ad-supported model and its innovative strategies to engage audiences, including partnerships with TikTok creators. She also highlights the importance of quick decision-making in content strategy and Tubi's unique position as a Fox subsidiary, balancing startup culture with resource advantages.

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Jun 13, 2024 • 39min
Remix: How private equity took over everything
Brendan Ballou, author of "Plunder: Private Equity’s Plan to Pillage America" and former federal prosecutor, dives into the world of private equity. He reveals how these firms use aggressive tactics to buy and reshape companies, often leaving a trail of bankruptcy, like with Toys“R”Us. The conversation highlights the dual-edged sword of operational efficiency versus crippling debt. Ballou also discusses the troubling practices, including exploiting bankruptcy laws, urging listeners to recognize the broader implications for consumers and industries.

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Jun 10, 2024 • 1h 10min
AI will make money sooner than you think, says Cohere CEO Aidan Gomez
Aidan Gomez, Co-founder and CEO of Cohere, shares insights on the enterprise-focused AI market. He discusses the shift from deterministic to probabilistic models, highlighting the complexities of human language in AI interactions. The conversation explores the financial landscape of AI, its rapid adoption, and the importance of creating reliable applications for businesses. Aidan also emphasizes the challenges and responsibilities of startups navigating a competitive environment, urging for a cultural shift in enterprises to embrace AI effectively.

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Jun 6, 2024 • 38min
Why the video game industry is such a mess
Ash Parrish, a Verge video game reporter, dives into the tumultuous landscape of the video game industry. Despite record consumer interest and impressive sales, major layoffs and financial pressures threaten studios big and small. Parrish discusses the paradox of shifting gaming trends towards free-to-play models and the heavy toll on traditional AAA titles. Furthermore, the rise of indie games and the need for innovation in storytelling are highlights that offer a glimmer of hope amidst the chaos.

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Jun 3, 2024 • 1h 1min
Zoom CEO Eric Yuan wants AI clones in meetings
In this conversation, Eric Yuan, the visionary Founder and CEO of Zoom, reveals his ambitious plans for the future of virtual meetings. He introduces the concept of 'digital twins'—AI avatars that could attend meetings and make decisions on our behalf, potentially revolutionizing how we work. The discussion touches on Zoom's evolution into a comprehensive AI-driven workplace solution, the importance of maintaining human connections, and the competitive landscape against giants like Microsoft and Google. Get ready to rethink your relationship with video calls!

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May 30, 2024 • 28min
Google Zero is here. Now what?
Giselle Navarro, Managing Editor of HouseFresh, shares insights on the upheaval in the digital landscape due to Google's recent algorithm changes. She discusses the alarming traffic losses faced by independent sites, emphasizing the struggle against larger publishers' dominance. The conversation dives into the challenges of visibility in this new era of search, where AI and swarming tactics complicate things for smaller creators. Giselle also highlights strategies for content creators to adapt and build trust with their audiences amidst these shifting dynamics.

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May 23, 2024 • 42min
How the FBI built its own smartphone company to hack the criminal underworld
In this engaging conversation, Joseph Cox, co-founder of 404 Media and author of "Dark Wire," shares insights on the FBI's audacious venture into the smartphone market with the startup ANOM. He discusses the evolution of secure messaging platforms from BlackBerry to Signal and their relevance to criminal activities. Joseph reveals the complexities of law enforcement's balancing act between technology and privacy, including the challenges of infiltrating encrypted communication networks. His captivating stories highlight the intersection of tech innovation and crime.

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May 20, 2024 • 45min
Google's Sundar Pichai on AI-powered search and the future of the web
Sundar Pichai, the CEO of Alphabet and Google, dives deep into AI's transformative role in search technology. He passionately discusses the stark tension between Google's vision for an AI-empowered future and the anxieties of creators facing potential invisibility in traffic. Pichai emphasizes the implications for content creators as search algorithms evolve, revealing the need for authentic voices amidst a flood of AI-generated content. With a focus on user experience, he envisions a personalized digital landscape while acknowledging the challenges it brings for the web.

May 16, 2024 • 47min
TikTok's big bet to fight the ban bill
In this engaging discussion, Sarah Jeong, a Verge editor and former lawyer, alongside Alex Heath, a seasoned TikTok correspondent, dissect TikTok's legal showdown against the U.S. government. They delve into the complexity of the constitutional arguments surrounding the app's potential ban and the intricate dynamics of its ownership by ByteDance. The duo highlights the tensions between free speech and national security, questioning the evidentiary basis for the ban. Their insights illuminate the broader implications of this high-stakes case.

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May 13, 2024 • 1h 1min
Why Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen is confident we'll all adapt to AI
Shantanu Narayen, CEO of Adobe for nearly 17 years, discusses the company's pivotal role in reshaping creative workflows amidst the rise of generative AI. He delves into how AI is revolutionizing creative processes while addressing the tension between creativity as art and commerce. The conversation touches on the ethical challenges of AI in content creation, the implications of misinformation, and the future of document management. Narayen emphasizes the importance of transparency and responsibility in adopting new technologies to protect artists and enhance digital experiences.