

The Therapist Thrival Guide
Ellie Mental Health
The Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast from Ellie Mental Health. We want to take therapists from just surviving to thriving. This is everything you didn't learn in graduate school! This podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, LICSW and rotating therapists. We'll have a different therapist guest for each episode to cover topics like burn-out, client retention, finding your niche, session structure, and balancing professional relationships.
Find the video podcasts here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE1KQgI5Dc4Kkjvlzm1GtuA
Find the video podcasts here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE1KQgI5Dc4Kkjvlzm1GtuA
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Aug 14, 2024 • 40min
62. Therapy Modalities: Brainspotting
Ready to UNLOCK your brain? We are joined by Billie Ferguson, LMFT in this episode to discuss a new modality making waves in the therapy world: brainspotting.
In this episode of the Therapist Thrival Guide, host Miranda welcomes Billie Ferguson, an LMFT based out of Oklahoma, to discuss the emerging therapeutic modality of brainspotting. They explore the origins of brainspotting, its connection to EMDR, and how it leverages eye positions to help process trauma. Billie shares valuable insights on how brainspotting works, its application in therapy, and its effectiveness for therapists healing from toxic work environments. This episode is a must-listen for new therapists seeking to learn about innovative practices in therapy.
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
01:10 Exploring Brainspotting: An Overview
03:54 The Science Behind Brainspotting
05:23 Brainspotting Techniques and Applications
14:55 Self-Spotting: Brainspotting for Personal Use
21:51 Healing from Toxic Work Environments
37:52 Conclusion and Resources
Watch the video podcast: https://youtu.be/KZL8Abx4zAo?si=zakPRSjlJDQ7aMD8
Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. The intention is to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of THRIVING by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you! This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise, clinical interests, and personal experiences of being a therapist. This podcast will be covering topics like burn-out, self of therapist, cultural considerations, client retention, session structure, advancing clinical skills, innovations in therapy, and balancing professional relationships with our personal lives. Every now and then, we'll even cover the happenings of how therapists are portrayed in pop culture.
Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for nearly three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Executive Producer at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care.
Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from Ellie Mental Health. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. #therapy #mentalhealth
ABOUT OUR GUEST: Billie Ferguson is a licensed therapist in Oklahoma, and the owner of Ferguson Therapy. With over 10 years of therapy under her belt, Billie uses Brainspotting to help other entrepreneurs, therapists, coaches, and helpers to heal and grow from old beliefs, patterns, and emotional stuck points that are preventing them from building the life they can thrive in.Outside of the therapy room, Billie spends her time with her husband and 2 kids. From chasing them around tball field or heading off for a weekend of camping, there is always something going on!
Check out Billie's upcoming cohort for therapists working to heal from harmful workplaces by taking a peek at her website or follow her on instagram.

Aug 7, 2024 • 43min
61. Intro to Grief Work
The topic of grief can be difficult, but every therapist knows it’s something we all face at some point. In this episode, we’re diving into the messy, raw, and sometimes surprising world of grief-- through the Grief Recovery Method.
Jordan Mealey, LPC, NCC, ACS, CGRS, CCTP joins to help us understand and explore how to support clients navigating their toughest moments. Join us as we unpack the complexities of loss with compassion, honesty, and always a little bit of humor.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:19 Jordan's Role and Responsibilities
01:47 The Importance of Grief and Loss in Therapy
02:34 Personal Journey into Grief Specialization
08:36 Understanding Different Types of Grief
10:33 Challenges in Discussing Grief
10:58 The Grief Recovery Method
17:16 Therapist's Role in Grief Counseling
32:37 Advice for Non-Specialist Therapists
39:08 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. The intention is to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of THRIVING by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you! This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise, clinical interests, and personal experiences of being a therapist. This podcast will be covering topics like burn-out, self of therapist, cultural considerations, client retention, session structure, advancing clinical skills, innovations in therapy, and balancing professional relationships with our personal lives. Every now and then, we'll even cover the happenings of how therapists are portrayed in pop culture.
Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for nearly three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Executive Producer at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care.
Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from Ellie Mental Health. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. #therapy #mentalhealth
ABOUT OUR GUEST:
Jordan is a Licensed Professional Counselor, National Certified Counselor, and Grief Recovery Specialist. She has supported people for 10+ years in different treatment settings including inpatient care, school-based counseling, intensive levels of outpatient programming, and private practice. She thrives to guide people to recognize their strengths through honest self-exploration, authenticity, and humor. A passion close to her heart is working with people through life transitions, including grief and loss.

Jul 31, 2024 • 51min
60. Navigating Political Anxiety in Therapy: Strategies for the Election Year
Political seasons are like a rollercoaster of stress for many, with a whirlwind of info overload and social pressures hitting you from all angles. Whether you're sweating over elections or drowning in updates on laws, political anxiety is a real thing. Let's buckle up and steer through this wild ride while keeping our cool!
In this episode of the Therapist Thrival Guide, Miranda and Lucas dive into the topic of politics and political anxiety, especially relevant during election years.
The conversation covers the evolving nature of political identity, strategies for therapists to handle political discussions in sessions, and the importance of empathy and understanding in bridging divides. They also address how to balance staying informed without being overwhelmed and offer practical advice for therapists dealing with clients affected by political tensions.
00:00 Introduction to Political Anxiety
00:52 Lucas's Interest into Politics
02:47 The 2016 Election and Its Impact
06:24 Facilitating Political Conversations
08:59 Therapists Navigating Political Discussions
12:56 Balancing Personal Beliefs and Professionalism
20:49 Client Relationships and Political Differences
25:59 Exploring Personal Relationships Beyond Politics
27:15 Impact of Politics on Younger Generations
28:55 Humanizing the Other Side
29:34 The Privilege of Political Disengagement
30:45 Managing Political Anxiety
33:07 The Influence of Media Consumption
42:09 Empathy and Understanding in Political Discussions
43:34 Concluding Thoughts
The Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. We want to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of THRIVING by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you! This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW and a rotating cast of seasoned therapists. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise, clinical interests, and personal experiences of being a therapist. This podcast will be covering topics like burn-out, self of therapist, cultural considerations, client retention, session structure, advancing clinical skills, innovations in therapy, and balancing professional relationships with our personal lives. Every now and then, we'll even cover the happenings of how therapists are portrayed in pop culture.
Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for nearly three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Director of Content and Production at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care.
The Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from Ellie Mental Health. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. #therapy #mentalhealth #politics

Jul 24, 2024 • 1h 4min
59. True Leadership & Meeting the Needs of Your Community
What does the research say about authenticity, inclusion, and belonging in healthcare? Dr. Sable McElveen, DHA, LCSW-S joins the podcast this week to discuss her research on patient outcomes and strategies healthcare professionals can keep in mind.
Dr. McElveen has a Doctorate in Health Administration and is a Licensed Clinical Social Work Supervisor. She works with teens (16+) and adults who represent historically marginalized communities, focusing on clients identifying as Black or LGBTQIA+.
Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. We want to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of THRIVING by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you! This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW and a rotating cast of seasoned therapists. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise, clinical interests, and personal experiences of being a therapist. This podcast will be covering topics like burn-out, self of therapist, cultural considerations, client retention, session structure, advancing clinical skills, innovations in therapy, and balancing professional relationships with our personal lives. Every now and then, we'll even cover the happenings of how therapists are portrayed in pop culture.
Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for nearly three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Director of Content and Production at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care.
The Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from Ellie Mental Health. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. #therapy #mentalhealth

Jul 17, 2024 • 52min
58. Outreach and Marketing for Therapy Clinics: Expert Q&A
Q: What is outreach?
A: It's all about building awareness for your clinic and services through community engagement and building relationships. Outreach activities can take all sorts of forms, including in-person events, social media campaigns, and partnerships with local organizations.
The bottomline: it's building relationships within your community.
In this episode, our outreach team (Marisa Negron and Madeline Matz) share their best practices when beginning outreach in your communities, including some tips, scripts, and examples that have worked for them. We’re cheering you on as you begin the journey of building long lasting relationships with your community!
Watch the interview here: https://youtu.be/SlkyDYuvJP0
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Welcome to the Therapist Thrival Guide
00:09 Meet the Outreach Team
01:06 Understanding Outreach in Therapy
02:15 Building Genuine Relationships
06:40 Starting Your Outreach Journey
08:42 Effective Outreach Strategies
11:46 Collaborating with Other Therapists
17:58 Outreach in Schools and Healthcare
24:38 Navigating Conferences and Events
29:18 Community Events vs. Professional Conferences
30:26 Engaging Attendees at Events
31:28 Personal Experiences and Tips
33:40 Effective Giveaways and Engagement Strategies
36:44 Starting Conversations at Events
40:29 Nurturing Relationships Post-Event
46:21 Final Thoughts and Encouragement
Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. The intention is to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of THRIVING by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you! This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise, clinical interests, and personal experiences of being a therapist. This podcast will be covering topics like burn-out, self of therapist, cultural considerations, client retention, session structure, advancing clinical skills, innovations in therapy, and balancing professional relationships with our personal lives. Every now and then, we'll even cover the happenings of how therapists are portrayed in pop culture.
Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Director of Content and Production at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care.
Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from Ellie Mental Health. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. #therapy #mentalhealth

Jul 16, 2024 • 20sec
Therapist Thrival Guide - Season 1 Teaser
New podcast coming Fall of 2022 from Ellie Mental Health!

Jul 11, 2024 • 38min
57. Therapists React to INSIDE OUT 2 - Bonus Episode
Curious what a therapist thinks about the new INSIDE OUT 2 movie? Letisha and Miranda are discussing it all in this BONUS episode!
What we're talking about:
- Teaching kids to name their emotions
- How therapists can incorporate this into therapy sessions
- Riley's panic attack and grounding exercises
- Layered complexity of feelings
- Our own experiences with the movie as parents
Link to thermometer tool: https://www.therapistaid.com/therapy-...
Link to Diane Abler's books: https://amzn.to/4cA3Qck
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:41 Discussing Inside Out 2
01:37 Personal Experiences with Inside Out 2
03:58 Therapist Perspective on Emotions
07:50 Analyzing Riley's Panic Attack
19:11 Connecting Emotions and Therapy Techniques
22:55 Practical Applications in Therapy
35:39 Final Thoughts and Recommendations
The Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. We want to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of THRIVING by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you! This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW and a rotating cast of seasoned therapists. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise, clinical interests, and personal experiences of being a therapist. This podcast will be covering topics like burn-out, self of therapist, cultural considerations, client retention, session structure, advancing clinical skills, innovations in therapy, and balancing professional relationships with our personal lives. Every now and then, we'll even cover the happenings of how therapists are portrayed in pop culture.
Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for nearly three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Director of Content and Production at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care.
The Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from Ellie Mental Health. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. #therapy #mentalhealth

Jul 10, 2024 • 32min
56. Using Art in Therapy
Chelsea Wire, MA LPC and Kailah Tuttle, LPC are two of our talented therapists at Ellie Mental Health that are passionate about the work they do and love educating other therapists about it!
What we're covering:
- How art therapy works and what it can be used for
- Strategies and ideas for incorporating art and creativity into your therapy
- How to become an art therapist
00:00 Introduction
00:13 Meet the Art Therapists: Chelsea and Kailah
01:04 Pathways to Becoming an Art Therapist
03:07 Understanding Art Therapy
06:13 Art Therapy Techniques and Tools
13:50 Art Therapy for Different Age Groups
20:02 Art Therapy for Trauma and Anxiety
25:40 Favorite Art Therapy Prompts and Tips
29:30 Final Thoughts and Takeaways
Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. We want to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of THRIVING by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you! This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW and a rotating cast of seasoned therapists. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise, clinical interests, and personal experiences of being a therapist. This podcast will be covering topics like burn-out, self of therapist, cultural considerations, client retention, session structure, advancing clinical skills, innovations in therapy, and balancing professional relationships with our personal lives. Every now and then, we'll even cover the happenings of how therapists are portrayed in pop culture.
Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for nearly three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Director of Content and Production at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care.
The Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from Ellie Mental Health. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. #therapy #mentalhealth

Jul 3, 2024 • 44min
55. Breaking Down EMDR in Therapy: Basics, Process, and Benefits
Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) is like a superhero for your brain, using a unique blend of eye movements, sounds, and tactile stimulation to help process and heal from painful memories and experiences. In this episode, we're chatting with therapists who have experienced the transformative power of EMDR firsthand and are passionate about teaching others!
Amber Silva, LLMSW and Gina Young, LICSW are therapists that are using EMDR in their practice with clients. In this episode:
- Breaking down the science behind EMDR, exploring how it helps rewire the brain and create lasting positive change
- Basics of the EMDR process, including the importance of creating a safe space and the various methods of bilateral stimulation used in therapy
- Different ways EMDR can be used
- The different types of traumas it can address
- EMDR's application for both children and adults.
Whether you're a therapist interested in training or someone curious about how EMDR can help, this episode offers valuable insights and practical information.
Read the transcript: Read the transcript: https://elliementalhealth.com/understanding-emdr-therapy-basics-process-and-benefits/
Watch the video podcast: https://youtu.be/e4Ix5z60Js0
Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. We want to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of THRIVING by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you! This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW and a rotating cast of seasoned therapists. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise, clinical interests, and personal experiences of being a therapist. This podcast will be covering topics like burn-out, self of therapist, cultural considerations, client retention, session structure, advancing clinical skills, innovations in therapy, and balancing professional relationships with our personal lives. Every now and then, we'll even cover the happenings of how therapists are portrayed in pop culture.
Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for nearly three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Director of Content and Production at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care.
The Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from Ellie Mental Health. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. #therapy #mentalhealth

Jun 26, 2024 • 38min
54. What to know about ADHD: Medications + Strategies from Clinicians and Prescribers
We are BACK with a whole new season of content! We are listening and focusing on topics you are asking for. To start things off, we are talking all about ADHD.
We have therapists Davin Cobb, LAMFT, Christina Gonzalez, LCSW, and Physician Assistant Joey Lusvardi, PA-C to discuss this diagnosis.
What we're discussing:
- Getting an ADHD diagnosis
- Strategies for managing ADHD
- Dealing with ADHD as a therapist
Link to video podcast episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Cx1adMGuw
Transcript: https://elliementalhealth.com/what-to-know-about-adhd-medications-strategies-from-clinicians-and-prescribers/
Link to book: https://amzn.to/3REldA3
Link to ADHD "Focus Plan": https://www.therapistaid.com/therapy-worksheet/adhd-focus-plan
The Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. We want to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of THRIVING by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you! This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW and a rotating cast of seasoned therapists. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise, clinical interests, and personal experiences of being a therapist. This podcast will be covering topics like burn-out, self of therapist, cultural considerations, client retention, session structure, advancing clinical skills, innovations in therapy, and balancing professional relationships with our personal lives. Every now and then, we'll even cover the happenings of how therapists are portrayed in pop culture.
Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for nearly three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Director of Content and Production at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care.
The Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from Ellie Mental Health. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. #therapy #mentalhealth