

GTM Live
Passetto
GTM Live is a new evolution of Revenue Vitals by Chris Walker, now hosted by Carolyn Dilks & Trevor Gibson, Co-Founders of Passetto — a part tech, part advisory GTM agency for high-performing B2B SaaS companies.
This weekly live show is built for CEOs, CFOs & Revenue Leaders who know the current way GTM is executed & measured is broken, and are ready for something better.
We cut through the noise & ditch outdated playbooks. No fluff. No vanity metrics. Just honest, modern conversations about how to track & optimize GTM for what actually matters: unit economics, efficiency & long-term growth.
This weekly live show is built for CEOs, CFOs & Revenue Leaders who know the current way GTM is executed & measured is broken, and are ready for something better.
We cut through the noise & ditch outdated playbooks. No fluff. No vanity metrics. Just honest, modern conversations about how to track & optimize GTM for what actually matters: unit economics, efficiency & long-term growth.
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Nov 14, 2020 • 52min
76 - ABM Breaks Down at Execution | Sangram Vajre (Co-Founder at Terminus)
Sangram Vajre, Co-Founder at Terminus, joined Chris Walker on State of Demand Gen to go into more detail about ABM - specifically tips for better execution and measurement.
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Nov 11, 2020 • 1h 28min
75 - How to Balance Brand & Performance | Demand Gen Live S2 x06
On last night's episode of Demand Gen Live we hosted a live AMA and tackled topics such as: How to balance Brand and Performance, Measuring the effectiveness of LinkedIn and Facebook advertising, the LinkedIn algorithm and content distribution.
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Nov 9, 2020 • 46min
74 - Change Your Metrics to Change Their Perception | Tech Sales Influencers with James Hounslow
James Hounslow, host of the Tech Sales Influencers podcast, interviewed Chris Walker the other week. They talked about what sales leaders who are focused on top of funnel should be doing to be most effective, how changes in the marketing department can have negative downstream effects, and how to command your buyers' attention in a way that provides value and changes perception.
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Nov 4, 2020 • 1h 31min
73 - Capturing Demand vs. Creating Demand | Demand Gen Live S2 x05
Chris and Megan powered through another Demand Gen Live last night to discuss the differences between Capturing Demand and Creating Demand. We also answered questions submitted in advance and live about:
Assignments during the recruitment process for Director+ level roles;
Podcasting in a saturated market;
What creative works best for paid social campaigns; and
How to get customer feedback as a marketer.
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Nov 2, 2020 • 31min
72 - ABM isn’t a One Size Fits All Strategy | Josh Wagner (Head of Partnerships, LeadMD)
Josh Wagner (Head of Partnerships @ LeadMD) joined Chris Walker for a short session on State of Demand Gen. They deep dive into Account Based Marketing (ABM) to discuss how it originated and has been used well, and poorly, especially in the B2B SaaS space.
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Oct 28, 2020 • 1h 32min
71 - Creating Demand with Momentum | Demand Gen Live S2 x04
Last night we continued Season 2 of Demand Gen Live with the AMA format. Chris and Megan tackled questions asked both before the show and live ranging from what demand REALLY means and how to create it with momentum to case studies and podcasts.
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Oct 26, 2020 • 42min
70 - Unrealistic Goals Drive Poor Marketing Behaviors | SUMMIT Podcast with Kyle Hamer
Kyle Hamer (Founder & CEO, Hamer Marketing Group) hosted Chris Walker on the SUMMIT Podcast to talk about marketing in a post-COVID-19 world. They discussed how to use both intuition and data to determine where to spend your budget, why you should separate performance and brand, and how unrealistic goals drive the wrong marketing behaviors.
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Oct 24, 2020 • 40min
69 - B2B Influencer Marketing | Kevin "KD" Dorsey (VP of Inside Sales @ PatientPop)
Kevin "KD" Dorsey joined Chris on State of Demand Gen this week to talk about how B2B can learn from B2C, especially in regards to influencer marketing. They discuss their thoughts on B2B influencer/user marketing and why SaaS companies in particular should be considering this approach.
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Oct 21, 2020 • 1h 16min
68 - Brand, Demand & ABM | Demand Gen Live S2 x03
On last night's Demand Gen Live we received several questions before the show and tackled them live. Some topics we covered include:
-Brand, Demand, ABM - Where to focus?;
-First 90 days as the first marketing hire; and
-How the pursuit of ROI and Efficiency drives bad marketing.
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Oct 14, 2020 • 1h 56min
67 - How Word of Mouth Drives Revenue | Demand Gen Live S2 x02
On Season 2 Episode 2 of Demand Gen Live, we talked about: How Sales can work well with the CMO, How word of mouth drives revenue with zero attribution, and what B2B marketers can learn from B2C. We also hosted a live AMA and answered questions about topics including LTV, ad copy variation, imposter syndrome, and segmenting.
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