

Invisible Machines podcast by UX Magazine
Invisible Machines
"The enemy of nonsense in AI" | The #1 podcast about agentic AI
Join great conversations with experts about the intersections between AI, product design, technology and business.
The bestselling authors of Age Of Invisible Machines are joined by other luminaries to continue the conversations that began in their book—the first bestseller about agentic AI. With a newly revised and updated Second Edition that hit the shelves in spring of 2025, Robb Wilson (CEO and Co-Founder of OneReach.ai) and Josh Tyson expand their explorations of disruptive technology with fellow AI insiders, experts, and luminaries working in adjacent realms.
Join great conversations with experts about the intersections between AI, product design, technology and business.
The bestselling authors of Age Of Invisible Machines are joined by other luminaries to continue the conversations that began in their book—the first bestseller about agentic AI. With a newly revised and updated Second Edition that hit the shelves in spring of 2025, Robb Wilson (CEO and Co-Founder of OneReach.ai) and Josh Tyson expand their explorations of disruptive technology with fellow AI insiders, experts, and luminaries working in adjacent realms.
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May 2, 2024 • 26min
S3E16 Building a Journaling Bot with Academics Daniel Lametti and Joanna Kuc
Daniel Lametti and Joanna Kuc discuss creating an advanced chatbot for mental health journaling. They explore the use of conversational AI, linguistic biomarkers for mental health, and the challenges of participant engagement. The podcast highlights their innovative design process and findings in an engaging discussion.

Apr 18, 2024 • 57min
S3E15 Hiring Conversational Designers - Aaron Cooper, Banner Health's Sr. Dir. of Digital Experience
As conversational AI continues to change the nature of UX, we're excited to bring you a practical (and thorough) conversation about hiring design talent with Aaron Cooper, Senior Director of Digital Experience at Banner Health. Aaron has lead the creation of multiple products involving conversational AI at companies like Honeywell and Optum Health, and was generous enough to open up about what he's looking for when hiring design talent and how he makes sure key people within his organization are partners in design. We've also got a special guest host for this episode: Elias Parker, the executive producer of our book, Age of Invisible Machines, and of this podcast. An ethnographer by training, Elias has been working with UX practitioners for more than a decade and has hired over 200 researchers and designers across disciplines.

Apr 12, 2024 • 55min
S3E14 Lean Knowledge Management with Roger Forsgren, former Chief Knowledge Officer at NASA
Former Chief Knowledge Officer at NASA, Roger Forsgren, discusses Lean Knowledge Management and the unique rhythms of data organization and maintenance. Topics include NASA's culture of tradition and innovation, the role of ethics in engineering education, engaging knowledge management strategies for active participation, knowledge sharing in space exploration, AI tools in knowledge management, and concluding with a discussion on Lean UX and NASA.

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Apr 4, 2024 • 1h 1min
S3E13 Building an Advanced Digital Assistant with Morgan Stanley
Take a deep dive into the creation of an advanced digital assistant with Jeff McMillan and David Wu of Morgan Stanley. As the Head of AD&I, Morgan Stanley Wealth Management and the Head of Knowledge Management & Generative AI respectively, Jeff and David led the creation of an AI assistant for the global investment firm's advisors. Robb and Josh invite them in for a conversation about the technical work and strategic initiatives that enabled Morgan Stanley to create a knowledge base that's given them a massive leap forward with conversational AI.

Mar 28, 2024 • 1h 7min
S3E12 Innovation Lives in Cities, with Richard Florida, economist, researcher, professor, and author
Richard Florida discusses the connection between cities and innovation, highlighting urban dynamics, the impact of the metaverse on city evolution, Detroit's revitalization, and the role of artificial general intelligence in corporate innovation networks. The conversation explores resilience and innovation in cities like Troy and Detroit, as well as the potential of AI augmentation for future interactions.

Mar 21, 2024 • 1h 8min
S3E11 Innovation in the Global South with Payal Arora, Author, professor and co-founder of FemLab
Payal Arora is a Professor of Inclusive AI Cultures at Utrecht University and Co-Founder of FemLab. She's also the author of the award-winning "The Next Billion Users" from Harvard Press, and her new book "From Pessimism to Promise: Lessons from the Global South on Designing Inclusive Tech" will be released this fall by MIT Press. Payal joins Robb and Josh for a frank and eye-opening exploration of technology and innovation in the Global South.

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Mar 14, 2024 • 58min
S3E10 The Future of Collaboration is Human with Gary Sorrentino, Global CIO of Zoom
Global CIO of Zoom, Gary Sorrentino, discusses human-to-human collaboration, AI in meetings, redefining work through collaboration, tech giant cooperation, evolving nature of meetings, and technology's influence on generational mindset in the workplace.

Mar 7, 2024 • 54min
S3E9 How Can We Iterate Faster? With Greg Nudelman, Author and UX Legend
Author and UX Legend Greg Nudelman was one of the original guests on In Conversation with UX Magazine over eight years ago. He returns for a rich conversation about the frenzied intersection of UX and AI. Greg has honed his craft as a design lead at GE Digital, Cisco, and eBay and has worked with organizations like IBM, Oracle, Associated Press, and Intuit. He's currently a Distinguished Designer at Sumo and has written numerous books including The $1 Prototype and Designing Search. He joins Robb and Josh to discuss ways that we can iterate faster and further in the age of AI.

Feb 29, 2024 • 1h
S3E8 LLM? More Like 'Limited' Language Model with Emily M. Bender, University of Washington
As a co-author of the often cited (and debated) Stochastic Parrots paper from 2021, Emily M. Bender is a staunch critic of large language models (LLMs). Having worked in computational linguistics for more than 20 years, Emily's deep understanding of LLM mechanics has her questioning many of the emerging use cases we see in the world. Also, Emily hosts Mystery AI Hype Theater 3000, where, alongside sociologist Dr. Alex Hanna, she breaks down the AI hype, separates fact from fiction, and distinguishes science from bloviation. She joins Robb and Josh for a provocative exploration of generative AI on an important episode of Invisible Machines.

Feb 22, 2024 • 49min
S3E7 Questioning Everything with Jaron Lanier, Prime Unifying Scientist at Microsoft
Co-founder of VR technology as we know it Jaron Lanier is also an accomplished musician and artist. As the Prime Unifying Scientist at Microsoft, Jaron rejects the deceptive nature of terms like "AGI" and "decentralization" in favor of a vision of technology that's all about people collaborating with other people. Join Robb and Josh for an episode of Invisible Machines that questions everything.


