
Invisible Machines podcast by UX Magazine
UX Magazine presents the Invisible Machines podcast.
Conversational AI is going everywhere. Join great conversations with experts in a podcast about AI agents, conversational AI and organizational artificial general intelligence (OAGI), covering the intersection of UX, business, technology and design.
Robb Wilson and Josh Tyson, authors of Age Of Invisible Machines, the first bestselling book about the agentic approach to software and conversational AI, envisioned the moment we’re in with ChatGPT and the AI revolution. Join in as they continue their discussion with leading thinkers and doers.
Latest episodes

Apr 12, 2024 • 55min
S3E14 Lean Knowledge Management with Roger Forsgren, former Chief Knowledge Officer at NASA
Former Chief Knowledge Officer at NASA, Roger Forsgren, discusses Lean Knowledge Management and the unique rhythms of data organization and maintenance. Topics include NASA's culture of tradition and innovation, the role of ethics in engineering education, engaging knowledge management strategies for active participation, knowledge sharing in space exploration, AI tools in knowledge management, and concluding with a discussion on Lean UX and NASA.

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Apr 4, 2024 • 1h 1min
S3E13 Building an Advanced Digital Assistant with Morgan Stanley
Take a deep dive into the creation of an advanced digital assistant with Jeff McMillan and David Wu of Morgan Stanley. As the Head of AD&I, Morgan Stanley Wealth Management and the Head of Knowledge Management & Generative AI respectively, Jeff and David led the creation of an AI assistant for the global investment firm's advisors. Robb and Josh invite them in for a conversation about the technical work and strategic initiatives that enabled Morgan Stanley to create a knowledge base that's given them a massive leap forward with conversational AI.

Mar 28, 2024 • 1h 7min
S3E12 Innovation Lives in Cities, with Richard Florida, economist, researcher, professor, and author
Richard Florida discusses the connection between cities and innovation, highlighting urban dynamics, the impact of the metaverse on city evolution, Detroit's revitalization, and the role of artificial general intelligence in corporate innovation networks. The conversation explores resilience and innovation in cities like Troy and Detroit, as well as the potential of AI augmentation for future interactions.

Mar 21, 2024 • 1h 8min
S3E11 Innovation in the Global South with Payal Arora, Author, professor and co-founder of FemLab
Payal Arora is a Professor of Inclusive AI Cultures at Utrecht University and Co-Founder of FemLab. She's also the author of the award-winning "The Next Billion Users" from Harvard Press, and her new book "From Pessimism to Promise: Lessons from the Global South on Designing Inclusive Tech" will be released this fall by MIT Press. Payal joins Robb and Josh for a frank and eye-opening exploration of technology and innovation in the Global South.

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Mar 14, 2024 • 58min
S3E10 The Future of Collaboration is Human with Gary Sorrentino, Global CIO of Zoom
Global CIO of Zoom, Gary Sorrentino, discusses human-to-human collaboration, AI in meetings, redefining work through collaboration, tech giant cooperation, evolving nature of meetings, and technology's influence on generational mindset in the workplace.

Mar 7, 2024 • 54min
S3E9 How Can We Iterate Faster? With Greg Nudelman, Author and UX Legend
Author and UX Legend Greg Nudelman was one of the original guests on In Conversation with UX Magazine over eight years ago. He returns for a rich conversation about the frenzied intersection of UX and AI. Greg has honed his craft as a design lead at GE Digital, Cisco, and eBay and has worked with organizations like IBM, Oracle, Associated Press, and Intuit. He's currently a Distinguished Designer at Sumo and has written numerous books including The $1 Prototype and Designing Search. He joins Robb and Josh to discuss ways that we can iterate faster and further in the age of AI.

Feb 29, 2024 • 1h
S3E8 LLM? More Like 'Limited' Language Model with Emily M. Bender, University of Washington
As a co-author of the often cited (and debated) Stochastic Parrots paper from 2021, Emily M. Bender is a staunch critic of large language models (LLMs). Having worked in computational linguistics for more than 20 years, Emily's deep understanding of LLM mechanics has her questioning many of the emerging use cases we see in the world. Also, Emily hosts Mystery AI Hype Theater 3000, where, alongside sociologist Dr. Alex Hanna, she breaks down the AI hype, separates fact from fiction, and distinguishes science from bloviation. She joins Robb and Josh for a provocative exploration of generative AI on an important episode of Invisible Machines.

Feb 22, 2024 • 49min
S3E7 Questioning Everything with Jaron Lanier, Prime Unifying Scientist at Microsoft
Co-founder of VR technology as we know it Jaron Lanier is also an accomplished musician and artist. As the Prime Unifying Scientist at Microsoft, Jaron rejects the deceptive nature of terms like "AGI" and "decentralization" in favor of a vision of technology that's all about people collaborating with other people. Join Robb and Josh for an episode of Invisible Machines that questions everything.

Feb 15, 2024 • 1h
S3E6 What Economics Teaches Us About Conversational AI. Daron Acemoglu, Professor of Economics, MIT
Daron Acemoglu, Institute Professor of Economics at MIT and co-author of Power and Progress joins Robb and Josh for a deep exploration of the intersection of technology and economics. Daron's work has explored our thousand-year struggle with technology and prosperity and this conversation touches on how we might incentivize the changes that will improve our experiences as a species. There are layers of centralization that we need to think about in the wake of generative AI, and the trio discusses the ways we can challenge the norms associated with our personal data.

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Feb 8, 2024 • 1h 6min
S3E5 Can Conversational AI Revive Our Attention Spans? With Gloria Mark, Author of Attention Span
Gloria Mark, Author of Attention Span, discusses how AI can enhance our attention spans and balance our psychological well-being in the digital age. Topics include preventing burnout, incorporating 'road activities' for productivity, designing future pages in scrapbooking for stress management, and creating optimal daily schedules with Conversational AI.
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