SummaryIn this conversation, Jon Stoddard interviews Jules Brenner from Metal Solutions Holdings, discussing the company's journey in acquiring multiple welding and metal manufacturing businesses. They explore the importance of partnerships, the challenges of refining a buy box, the self-funding approach, and the unique landscape of California manufacturing. Jules shares insights on operational improvements, the significance of contrarian thinking in business strategy, and the potential for growth in the metal fabrication market. In this conversation, Jules Brenner discusses the intricacies of managing a manufacturing business, focusing on customer relationships, the significance of repeat business, and the importance of quality standards. He shares insights from his experiences in acquiring businesses, navigating deal flow, and the personal growth he has undergone as a leader. The discussion emphasizes the need for strategic decision-making and the commitment to preserving manufacturing jobs in California.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Metal Solutions Holdings02:52 Building Partnerships in the Industrial Space05:59 Refining the Buy Box: A Journey of Discovery08:53 Self-Funding and the Role of Investors12:00 Understanding Deal Structures and Financing14:53 The California Manufacturing Landscape18:08 Contrarian Thinking in Business Strategy20:58 Operational Improvements in Acquired Businesses23:56 Implementing Systems for Growth27:06 Market Potential and Customer Acquisition27:42 Understanding Customer Relationships in Manufacturing32:36 The Importance of Repeat Business and Quality Standards38:17 Lessons Learned from Acquisitions and Quality Control44:45 Navigating Deal Flow and Seller Relationships48:20 Personal Growth and Leadership in Business ManagementKeywordsMetal Solutions Holdings, industrial partnerships, buy box, self-funding, deal structures, California manufacturing, contrarian thinking, operational improvements, business systems, customer acquisition, manufacturing, customer relationships, repeat business, quality standards, acquisitions, deal flow, leadership, business management, industrial technology, California manufacturing