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Aug 7, 2023 • 32min
Oak HC/FT’s Matt Streisfeld (General Partner) - on M&A in FinTech, AI/ML & Digital Assets
Matt Streisfeld, General Partner at Oak HC/FT, discusses the M&A environment for fintechs, opportunities in AI/ML, the outlook for digital assets, and his personal philosophy on FinTech investing.

Jul 31, 2023 • 46min
Ariel Cohen, CEO and Co-Founder of Navan - Building a Unicorn with Customer-Centric Design
"Every time we scale, I rethink the problem and how we are solving it…”
Listen in as Josh Benadiva hosts Ariel Cohen, CEO and Co-Founder of Navan. This episode is a riveting exploration of Ariel's journey in tackling evolving challenges and driving continuous product innovation as his business scales.
Ariel shares his unique approach to product development and organizational alignment. He discusses how he and his co-founder initially reimagined enterprise travel management software with a focus driving win-wins for companies and their employees.
As the CEO and Co-Founder of Navan, Ariel is focused on the company’s growth. This is Ariel’s second company he founded with Co-founder and CTO Ilan Twig –– the most recent being StreamOnce, a business multimedia integration platform which was acquired by Jive Software. Prior to StreamOnce, Ariel led Product Management in a senior leadership role at Hewlett-Packard. Ariel earned an EMBA from Northwestern University –– Kellogg School of Management.
Navan (formerly TripActions) was founded in 2015 and is the next generation of corporate travel and expense management software that allows users to easily book, view, and manage business travel and expenses. Navan has also recently launched a corporate credit card alongside its travel and expense management technology.

Jul 25, 2023 • 39min
Wise, Harsh Sinha & Steve Naudé - Building a leading cross-border payments network
Kailee Costello hosts Harsh Sinha and Steve Naudé from Wise. Harsh is the Chief Technology Officer, and Steve is Head of Wise Platform. Wise has built a leading cross-border payments network and processes £9B in cross-border payments every month on behalf of over 16 million customers. Wise’s IPO on the London Stock Exchange took place in 2021.
In this episode you will hear about:
- Wise’s journey from money transfer service to leading cross-border payments network
- How Wise have put an API around their cross-border payment infrastructure so that they can offer it to banks and non-banks via Wise Platform
- How Wise is able to achieve such low transaction costs
- Whether Wise will be able to push prices lower in the future
- The friction that still exists in cross-border payments
- The role that crypto solutions will play in the future.
- How Wise deploys cross-functional teams that operate as a small startup within Wise and are fully equipped as a vertical unit to solve the problem for the customer
- Challenges faced in building and growing Wise Platform
- Growth opportunities for Wise Platform, and why Wise is expecting Platform to represent the majority of FX volume in the long-term
About Wise
Wise is a global technology company building the best way to move and manage money around the world. Wise processes £9bn in cross-border payments every month on behalf of over 16 million customers, saving them £1.5bn a year in bank fees. Wise’s IPO took place in July 2021.
About Harsh Sinha and Steve Naudé
Harsh Sinha is the Chief Technology Officer at Wise. Prior to Wise, Harsh was the director of product at PayPal. He led product strategy and development of PayPal's mobile apps and software. Previously, Harsh led various technology functions at eBay. Harsh is also an angel investor, an advisor to early stage start-ups and venture capital firms.
Steve Naudé is Head of Wise Platform, Wise’s cross-border payments infrastructure offer for banks and non-banks alike. Wise Platform allows financial institutions and major enterprises to leverage the power of Wise’s technology and embed solutions that make sending, receiving, and managing money internationally easier than ever for their customers directly into their existing infrastructure. Today, Wise Platform is live with more than 60 banks and financial institutions across the world, including Monzo, Google Pay, Ramp and Bank Mandiri, one of Indonesia's largest banks.
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Jul 20, 2023 • 34min
Khalid Meniri, Co-Founder & CEO at Selfbook - On hospitality & what the tech ecosystem gets right
Nihar Bobba hosts Khalid Meniri, Co-Founder and CEO of Selfbook, a fintech startup bringing modern payments innovation to the world of hospitality. Prior to Selfbook, Khalid built and ran a digital agency, Six, where he and his team combined data architecture, e-commerce infrastructure and digital design expertise to serve clients such as Net-a-Porter, Unilever and Hearst. Today, Selfbook partners with hospitality groups such as Dorchester Collection, Oetker Collection and Auberge Resorts Collection, and includes investors such as Amex Ventures, Tiger Global, Starwood’s Barry Sternlicht and Better Tomorrow Ventures.
In this episode, you will hear about:
- Khalid's journey to America
- Why frictionless payments is so important for hospitality
- What's next for Selfbook
- What Khalid's excited about in Fintech

Jul 18, 2023 • 47min
Chen Amit - CEO of Tipalti - Building B2B Fintech From Scratch
Chen Amit, founder and CEO of Tipalti, shares insights on crafting initial solutions for enterprise problems, being an outsider in the industry, learnings from starting Tipalti, and structuring an early-stage company. He also discusses the importance of a strong founding team, personal growth as a leader, basic management skills, sales training, starting a fintech company, product-led growth, personalized sales, innovation in untapped fintech categories, and discovering new fields for unprecedented opportunities.

Jul 13, 2023 • 35min
Annie Delgado, Upstart, Chief Risk Officer - Expanding access to affordable credit
Kailee Costello hosts Annie Delgado, the Chief Risk Officer of Upstart. Upstart is a leading AI lending marketplace, partnering with banks and credit unions to expand access to affordable credit
In this episode you will hear about:
- How Upstart’s use of ML has evolved from a binary decision model to what is now a fully-automated loan process for the majority of their borrowers
- Why Upstart decided not to become a chartered bank
- How Upstart works to prevent bias in ML algorithms
- Competitive advantage in ML underwriting
- Annie’s role as Chief Risk Officer
- How lending processes and credit scores will evolve into the future
- And much more!
About Annie Delgado
Annie is the Chief Risk Officer at Upstart. As part of her role, she has built a data-driven compliance program at Upstart, navigating the regulatory environment associated with the use of AI-powered credit modeling techniques.
About Upstart
Upstart is a leading artificial intelligence (AI) lending marketplace designed to improve access to affordable credit while reducing the risk and costs of lending for our bank partners. By leveraging Upstart's AI marketplace, Upstart-powered banks can offer higher approval rates and experience lower default rates, while simultaneously delivering the digital-first lending experience their customers demand. Upstart has originated more than $33B loans, and 84% of loans are fully automated.
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Jul 10, 2023 • 38min
Boris Alergant, Head of DeFi at Ripple — On traditional finance going digital and decentralized
Nate Gee hosts Boris Alergant, Ripple’s Head of DeFi. Ripple has operated in the crypto space for over a decade and offers a range of blockchain-based solutions for businesses.
In this episode we cover:
- Ripple’s original solution addressing cross-border payments inefficiencies
- The XRP Ledger on which Ripple builds its products, and how it differs from other blockchains
- How Boris views and defines decentralized finance and his role leading DeFi at Ripple
- The development of automated market maker functionality on the XRP Ledger
- Central bank digital currencies and other recent industry trends
- Pursuing an MBA to transition into fintech/crypto
- And much more!
About Boris Alergant
Boris joined Ripple full-time in 2019 and is now the company’s Head of DeFi. Before joining Ripple, Boris earned an MBA and MA at the Wharton School and Lauder Institute. Prior to business school, Boris spent the first seven years of his career in investment banking and sales and trading at JP Morgan and MUFG.
About Ripple
Ripple Labs, Inc. is a technology company founded in 2012 with a primary focus on digital cross-border payments via a decentralized blockchain, XRP Ledger. Ripple now offers additional solutions to meet enterprises’ needs with respect to digital assets. Ripple also works with central banks around the world to issue central bank digital currencies (CBDCs) on the XRP Ledger.
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Jun 29, 2023 • 33min
David Mercer, CEO of LMAX Group - Crypto & FX Innovations
Josh Benadiva converses with David Mercer, CEO of LMAX Group, about the evolution of fintech, and his journey in leading a foreign and crypto exchange. A seasoned leader in the derivatives industry, Mercer shares his insights on the essence of continuous product improvement, agility in business structures, and the innovative approaches in Bitcoin and crypto exchanges.
Discover how LMAX Group, Europe's leading Multilateral Trading Facility for FX and crypto, is driving transformation in the industry. Mercer provides a sneak peek into the future of crypto beyond the crypto winter and the role LMAX Group will play in this landscape.
David Mercer is the chief executive of LMAX Group. He has more than 20 years’ experience in the derivatives industry and an extensive expertise in the leveraged FX business. Prior to joining LMAX Exchange, he held senior executive roles at IFX Markets and Saxo Bank (Synthesis Bank) in London, Geneva and Sydney. Mercer started his career at CSFP and Credit Suisse First Boston focusing on fixed income derivatives, primarily as the business manager in the emerging markets division.

Jun 26, 2023 • 44min
Samara Cohen, CIO of ETF & Index Investments at BlackRock - Investing for the future
Tarang Gupta hosts Samara Cohen, the Chief Investment Officer of ETFs and Index Investments at BlackRock. BlackRock is a global asset manager and technology provider and one of the world’s leading providers of investment, advisory and risk management solutions.
In this episode you will hear about:
- What Samara’s role as the CIO entails
- How ETFs have evolved from their early days
- Building high performance teams
- Different types of investors that invest in BlackRock’s ETFs
- Increasing participation of self-directed investors in public markets
- Samara’s outlook on managing personal and professional commitments
- And much more!
About Samara Cohen
Samara Cohen, Senior Managing Director, is the Chief Investment Officer of the ETF and Index Investments (EII) business for BlackRock and a member of the firm's Global Executive Committee. As the first ever CIO for EII, Samara manages the teams responsible for delivering the market quality and investment integrity of BlackRock’s 2,700+ index funds and ETFs. She also serves on the Global Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Steering Committee and on the board of the BlackRock Foundation. Samara was named to Barron’s 100 Most Influential Women in Finance last year. She earned a BS Econ in Finance from the Wharton School and a BA in Theatre Arts from the College of Arts and Sciences of the University of Pennsylvania. She also holds an MBA from Harvard Business School.
About ETFs and iShares
An ETF is a technology that can wrap all kinds of investments. They are a simple way for people to access the world’s financial markets in a diversified way. ETFs are similar to mutual funds in that they invest in a basket of securities, such as stocks or bonds. Similar to a stock, ETFs can be traded whenever the markets are open, which makes them different from mutual funds. Ultimately, what ETFs are doing are democratizing investing – providing convenient and affordable access for millions to the capital markets. BlackRock’s ETF and index business is about $2.3 trillion in AUM across over 2,700+ funds globally. Worldwide, 120 million people have an average of $50,000 invested in iShares ETF and index funds. In the US alone, 25 million people own an iShares ETF.
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Jun 23, 2023 • 51min
Hans Tung - Mastering Global Venture Capital
In a collaboration with GGV Capital's "Evolving for the Next Billion" podcast, Joshua Benadiva hosts a fascinating conversation with Hans Tung, widely recognized as one of the best venture investors in the world. Hans is the managing partner of GGV Capital, and has been named to the Forbes Midas List of the world's top venture capital investors for 11 consecutive years.
Throughout our conversation, we explore the unique decision-making strategies that have fueled Hans' successful investments. We delve into his distinct perspective on human and technological transformation and discuss how he uses these as data points in his broader investment strategy.
Hans Tung is a Managing Partner at GGV Capital, focusing on early-stage investments across the global digital economy ecosystem. He is consistently recognized among the top venture capital investors in the world, having been named to the Forbes Midas list 11 consecutive years from 2013-2023, and has been in the top 10 for the last 5 years. He has also been recognized among the Top 100 Asian Americans by Gold House in 2018-2020. In 2023, Hans and his team launched the Embedded Fintech 50, a list highlighting the rising stars in fintech innovation. Hans oversees the GGV’s DE&I initiatives, and he is also the co-host of the popular podcast, “Evolving for the Next Billion” on entrepreneurship around the globe.