
DCD Zero Downtime: The Bi-Weekly Data Center Show
DCD Zero Downtime is DCD's editorially-led podcast. In each episode, our editorial team will be talking with leading members of the data center and digital infrastructure community, delving deeper into the future of the industry and its major challenges.
Latest episodes

Jun 15, 2023 • 32min
Episode 34 - When will quantum computers reach the data center? We talk to Chris Monroe, IonQ
Chris Monroe, chief scientist at IonQ, discusses the future of quantum computing. Quantum computers could soon fit into classical data centers, with minimal cooling and power requirements. They explore the unique nature of quantum computing, the minimum number of qubits needed for valuable tasks, and the potential integration of quantum computers with data centers.

Jun 1, 2023 • 32min
Episode 33 - Empowering women in tech with Kelley Mullick, Iceotope
There has been an ongoing issue with the representation of women in the tech industry, but why?
In this episode, we talk to Kelley Mullick about her career to date, the factors that have helped her get to where she is, and the importance of supporting and empowering women to pursue these careers so they can find confidence within themselves.
We also talk a little about her recent job change from Intel to vice president of technology advancement and alliances at Iceotope - what drew her to the company and why she thinks precision liquid cooling is the future.

May 18, 2023 • 29min
Episode 32 - Underground data centers with Andrew Bourget, Eccus
Having trouble finding a location for your data center project? This DCD podcast could have the answer. Build underground.
Andrew Bourget of Swiss engineering firm Eccus has a design for a 2MW data center built in an underground tunnel - and he can dig that tunnel wherever you want it, even under existing buildings.
The way he tells it, tunneling is the future. There's no planning permission required, and you can build under your existing facility. You can migrate underground, and still have your above-ground space available for offices or to rent out. Is he serious?
Time will tell. He's currently working on projects in Switzerland and France - with his eye on London, where the clay subsoil is apparently ideal for underground data center vaults.

May 4, 2023 • 41min
Episode 31 - Mark Bjornsgaard of Deep Green on heating swimming pools with data center heat
In March this year, a swimming pool in Devon, UK, was the unlikely setting for the most widely covered data center story (so far) of 2023.
A small immersion-cooled high-performance computing module from Deep Green is giving its heat to the swimming pool, saving Exmouth Leisure Centres £20,000 ($24,000) per year.
It's not the first time data center waste heat has been harnessed. It's not even the first time it has heated a swimming pool. But Deep Green CEO Mark Bjornsgaard tells us that, this time, all the pieces are in place to make the idea mainstream.
In the future, he asks, why should the heat from any computing be wasted?
Put it another way: if all our heating needs were produced by GPUs and CPUs, that would provide way more computing power than we currently know how to use.

Apr 20, 2023 • 58min
Episode 30 - The state of cloud gaming and VR with Omdia's George Jijiashvili
Cloud gaming was heralded as the future of games, and was set to become a major data center workload. Now, after the death of Google Stadia and layoffs at Amazon's Luna, what's left for data center gaming? We catch up with Omdia's George Jijiashvili to discuss all things gaming, as well as VR, AR, and a dash of the metaverse.

Apr 6, 2023 • 47min
Episode 29 - The nuclear energy silver bullet with Tony Grayson, Compass Data Centers and Alan Howard, OMDIA
As 2030 approaches, the pressure on data centers to meet their carbon pledges continues to increase. This, compounded with the challenge of energy supply insecurity and rising costs, is driving data centers to look to new methods of powering their operations, which has triggered nuclear power to come to the fore. However, as a result of historical disasters as well as the upfront costs, there is hesitancy in the data center industry to make the move to nuclear.
This podcast will take a deep dive into the future of nuclear in the data center market, and explore how the heavy regulation of this industry makes it a safe and reliable method of energy generation. However, despite there being some clear use cases of its viability, we are many years off from nuclear becoming a widely used power source owing to its economic feasibility. This begs the questions: when will it be deployed at scale? What is the practicality of SMRs? What technology will be used to bridge the gap as we wait for a nuclear solution?

Mar 24, 2023 • 45min
Episode 28 - The future of hyperscale networking, with Juniper Networks' Mike Bushong
As data center demands grow, hyperscalers are building out vast networks that will help define the future of how infrastructure is interconnected. In the latest episode of the DCD Zero Downtime podcast, we connect with Juniper Networks' group vice president of cloud-ready data center, Mike Bushong, to discuss what this means, and what we should expect next. Plus we discuss AI, silicon photonics, telecoms, the race to 800G, and more.

Mar 9, 2023 • 23min
Episode 27 - The 2G and 3G switch-off and what it means for 5G and IoT with Wireless Logic Group CPO, Paul Bullock
Recently there’s been a number of mobile operators switching off their 3G networks around the world, or scheduling to phase out this old technology.
2G has also been spoken about at length, but has a slightly longer shelf-life than 3G, as it provides a backbone that still supports the IoT industry today.
But what does any of this mean, and why does it matter? Well, Wireless Logic Group Chief Product Officer Paul Bullock explains why the need to switch off 3G is necessary for the future of 5G.
It’s not just 5G, he adds, noting that IoT will gain a lot from the switch off of this service, although he acknowledges that 2G will be more of a challenge to phase out.
Tune in to listen to the full discussion...

Feb 23, 2023 • 47min
Episode 26 - There's something about Maryland, with Quantum Loophole CEO Josh Snowhorn
As land and power in Virginia's Loudoun County become increasingly scarce, data center developers are seeking fresh ground on which build. While many are moving south within Virginia to the likes of Prince William County, Quantum Loophole is hoping to lure companies north into Maryland.
A former aluminum smelting works, the company's maiden campus is reportedly luring cloud companies and the hyperscale developers serving them on a huge scale.
CEO Josh Snowhorn talks us through the company's history and its 2,000+acre gigawatt project located just north from Loudoun across the Potomac river.

Feb 9, 2023 • 45min
Episode 25 - Meeting the pioneer of Meet-me rooms with Hunter Newby
Hunter Newby doesn't claim to have invented the Meet-Me Room, but he created one of the first, in the iconic and historical Manhattan facility, 60 Hudson Street, in about 1998
At the time data centers had separate connections from multiple carriers, and linking between those carriers meant running a link between their connection points - and paying them heavily. Hunter set up a room where the networks all met up for physical (layer 0) connections - and the rest is history.
It's a well-documented history because he went on to write a series of magazine articles "Meet Me In New York", "Meet Me In Chicago" etc, about interconnection facilities in major US cities. That series is archived on his site, alongside live data of connections for each of those cities from the open peering resource, PeeringDB.
Today, there are still not enough Meet-Me rooms. Some US states with large cloud facilities don't have nearby carrier hotels, so local user traffic has to go out to a city like Chicago and back. Hunter's wants to foster neutral carrier hotels where there are none.
Why is 60 Hudson Street the Ellis Island of the Internet? And did Hunter ever write "Meet Me In St Louis"?
Listen in, and meet Hunter Newby..
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