
DCD Zero Downtime: The Bi-Weekly Data Center Show
DCD Zero Downtime is DCD's editorially-led podcast. In each episode, our editorial team will be talking with leading members of the data center and digital infrastructure community, delving deeper into the future of the industry and its major challenges.
Latest episodes

Jan 26, 2023 • 48min
Episode 24 - Immerse yourself in liquid cooling with NAAT CTO Julius Neudorfer
Join us for an extended discussion with CTO and founder of North American Access Technologies Julius Neudorfer about the history of liquid cooling, and where he sees the market developing in the future.

Jan 12, 2023 • 30min
Episode 23 - Exploring the Edge with AtlasEdge COO Zahl Limbuwala
Formed by DigitalBridge and Liberty Global, AtlasEdge has quickly become one of the Edge industry's largest players. We chat to COO Zahl Limbuwala about how it defines the Edge and where it places its servers.

Dec 15, 2022 • 31min
Episode 22 - Understanding IT Efficiency with Rich Kenny, Interact managing director
For years, operators have been trying to make their data centers more efficient by optimizing the cooling and power distribution in the facility - and have more or less ignored the IT equipment in the racks.
PUE - the most popular data center metric - simply optimized the ancillary equipment, trying to approach a "perfect" figure of 1.0, where all the power goes into the rack.
But what if you could measure the power used by your IT equipment, run comparative tests, and find out how to reconfigure, replace or update your hardware to improve energy efficiency?
Rich Kenny claims to be able to do that. Interact started as a project by refurbished hardware supplier TechBuyer, aiming to prove that refurbished hardware could be as good as new kit, and grew into a consultancy that compares hardware configurations, and gives guidance on how to do more with less hardware.
Server manufacturers do their business on the basis that new hardware is always more efficient than old hardware, and colo providers would rather you didn't find out that you could do away with half the racks you are renting.
Kenny is shining a light into a dark corner that has not had enough exposure, dissecting the 1 in that PUE figure. He could be about to step on some industry toes...

Dec 1, 2022 • 29min
Episode 21 - How to handle an outage, with Cloudflare CTO John Graham-Cumming
In this episode, we talk to Cloudflare's CTO John Graham-Cumming about how to respond to an outage at your company. We also discuss why the company bans the use of the word "Edge," and talk about the company's 'Supercloud.'

Nov 15, 2022 • 31min
Episode 20 - Talking photonic computing with Lightmatter CEO Nick Harris
Can light be used to compute? We talk to Nick Harris, CEO of chip startup Lightmatter, about how the company hopes to harness photons for AI computing and as a data center interconnect.

Nov 1, 2022 • 37min
Episode 19 - Bits and bricks with Digital Realty CTO Chris Sharp
What does a technologist do at a real estate company? We talk to Digital Realty's CTO Chris Sharp about the importance of understanding both bits and bricks, discuss the company's interconnection efforts, and do a quickfire round on which future technologies will transform the data center.

Oct 13, 2022 • 45min
Episode 18 - The origin of the Internet of Things with Peter Lewis
Most people think the Internet of Things is a recent idea, maybe dating to around the year 2000. In fact, the idea is some 15 years older than that.
In 1985, the Internet was officially two years old. It linked up some 2000 hosts, and a handful of people used email. In that year, cellular phones were the size of bricks, and almost no one had one. And yet, in 1985, Peter T Lewis predicted the two could be combined, so devices could communicate over wireless links.
"I predict that not only humans, but machines and other things will interactively communicate via the Internet," he said. "The Internet of Things, or IoT, is the integration of people, processes, and technology with connectable devices and sensors to enable remote monitoring, status, manipulation, and evaluation of trends of such devices."
Listen to our podcast to find out how Lewis made this astonishingly accurate prediction, years ahead of his time. in a speech to the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation in 1985. We also find out how his ideas were almost forgotten, and what he thinks of today's IoT.

Sep 29, 2022 • 36min
Episode 17 - The impact of climate legislation on digital infrastructure with Stephen Harper, global director of Intel
After a hiatus of several years, climate change policy is taking off in the US, with the Biden-Harris Administration using the Inflation Reduction Act and the Energy Earthshot to accelerate the clean energy economy.
But data center energy policy goes back a lot further than that. Stephen Harper, Intel's Global Director, Environment and Energy Policy, was there 20 years ago when data centers first came onto the climate change radar, and he's been tracking progress since then.
As well as their own emissions "footprint", data centers have a positive impact on emissions elsewhere, known as the environmental "handprint"
But how do we measure that handprint, and set it against the negative impact of infrastructure.
And coming after this backstory, just what impact of these Biden-Harris initiatives have?
DCD speaks to Stephen about the likely impact of historic climate legislation for the digital infrastructure sector.

Sep 15, 2022 • 37min
Episode 16 - Green software with David Mytton, CEO and co-founder of Console
Efforts to reduce the environmental impact of our digital world tend to start with the cooling systems at data centers, and rarely get any further.
The tech industry created PUE as a simple metric which could express how efficiently power is delivered to the racks, but did not consider what happens to that power when it gets there.
That’s not good enough, because poorly written software could be wasting that power in unnecessary loops and fruitless calculations.
The Green Software Foundation has emerged to propose a measure of Software Carbon Intensity that will tell developers if their software is a good planetary citizen.
But this is an issue that gets more complex, the more you look at it. Software that completes quickly must save energy, but what if the software is running on multiple hardware platforms? What about the embodied energy of the hardware you choose for it?
David Mytton is Co-founder & CEO of Console, a company that makes tools for developers. He’s also looked at the energy used in technology, bothy at Imperial College and at the Uptime Institute.
He’s now working on a PhD in sustainable computing at the University of Oxford.
He talks to us about the prospects for Green Software finding its way from academic research, through sponsorship by large vendors, into the hands of developers and consumers.

Sep 1, 2022 • 49min
Episode 15 - Tracking data center power use with LBNL's Dr. Arman Shehabi
As grids around the world struggle to meet demand amid heatwaves and wars, data center power and water usage is increasingly coming under scrutiny. We talk to the researcher who has spent years trying to track the sector's consumption, so that regulators and companies alike can access accurate figures on a secretive sector.
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