
NatSec Matters
Former senior national security officials Michael Allen, Jeremy Bash, and Andrew Shapiro interview top leaders in national security, including intelligence officers, military leaders, and policymakers, on the most critical security challenges of our time. Their interviews offer insights into the world’s most pressing problems and assess the effectiveness of U.S. policy responses. They also explore the biographies and careers of individuals who have devoted their lives to protecting our nation, offering listeners a rare glimpse into the inner workings of national security decision-making.
Latest episodes

Feb 12, 2025 • 54min
Geopolitics in Transition: Jon Finer
Jon Finer, former Principal Deputy National Security Advisor to President Biden, offers an insider's look at modern geopolitics. He discusses the complexities of Iran's influence, the resilience of Ukraine against Russia, and the strategic challenges posed by China's ambitions over Taiwan. Jon emphasizes NATO's expansion as a crucial response to threats and highlights the growing collaboration among major global adversaries like China and Russia. His insights provide a deep understanding of the evolving landscape of international relations and national security.

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Feb 5, 2025 • 53min
Inside Israeli Military Intel: Tamir Hayman
In this engaging discussion, Maj. Gen. Tamir Hayman, former head of Israeli army intelligence, shares compelling insights on Israeli national security post-October 7, 2024. He elaborates on the evolving intelligence strategies aimed at preventing threats and the intricate negotiations surrounding hostage situations. Hayman also reveals details about operations against Hezbollah, showcasing the innovative use of technology. Furthermore, he discusses the challenges posed by Iran's nuclear ambitions and the consequential strategic dynamics in the region.

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Jan 29, 2025 • 41min
Strategic Frontlines: Gen. Frank McKenzie
General Kenneth 'Frank' McKenzie Jr., former commander of U.S. Central Command, offers deep insights into the shifting security landscape of the Middle East. He discusses Iran's vulnerabilities and the ramifications of Israel's military actions. McKenzie analyzes the strategic fallout from the assassination of Qasem Soleimani and the rising threat of ISIS. He also tackles the complexities of over-the-horizon operations in Afghanistan and emphasizes the importance of U.S. partnerships in countering global adversaries.

Jan 8, 2025 • 58min
'Flip the Script'
Michael and Andy join Beacon Global Strategies Managing Director Michael Allen to share a major announcement about the future of Intelligence Matters. They also discuss their geopolitical forecasts for 2025, examining potential developments in the Middle East, Russia, Ukraine, and China.

Jan 1, 2025 • 42min
Inside the President's Daily Brief
Delve into the intriguing world of CIA briefers as they reveal personal stories of preparing the President's Daily Brief. Experience the tension of high-stakes national security discussions and the art of balancing tough truths with effective communication. The speakers share the complexities of navigating difficult conversations with the President while managing team dynamics. Enjoy lighthearted anecdotes from White House holiday parties, showcasing the blend of serious discussions and human moments with leadership.

Dec 25, 2024 • 47min
Umasking the CIA: Jonna Mendez
In this captivating discussion, former CIA officer Jonna Mendez shares her journey from secretary to Chief of Disguise. She reveals the challenges she faced in a male-dominated field and her groundbreaking work in clandestine photography. Jonna recounts thrilling tales, including a harrowing day during a weapon depot explosion. She also reminisces about an unforgettable moment demonstrating a disguise mask to President George H. W. Bush, highlighting the incredible blend of creativity and urgency in intelligence operations.

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Dec 18, 2024 • 40min
The Trump-China Dilemma: Chris Johnson
Chris Johnson, Founder and CEO of China Strategies Group, is a leading expert on U.S.-China relations. He discusses Beijing's vulnerabilities and the implications of a potential Trump presidency. Topics include the high-stakes rivalry between the U.S. and China, internal economic struggles in China, and Xi Jinping's consolidation of power. Johnson also highlights critical geopolitical flashpoints, such as Taiwan and the South China Sea, and reflects on missed diplomatic opportunities with Australia and Japan that could reshape future relations.

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Dec 11, 2024 • 42min
Inside a Dangerous Alliance: Sara Harmouch
Michael speaks with terrorism expert and H9 Defense Founder and CEO Sara Harmouch who explores the surprising alliance between Iran and Al Qaeda, tracing their decades-long relationship and warning about the growing security threats posed by their current cooperation.

Dec 4, 2024 • 37min
The Antarctic 'Chessboard': Bill Muntean
Bill Muntean, a former State Department senior advisor and expert on Antarctic geopolitics, discusses the frozen continent's role in great power competition. He details how the 1959 Antarctic Treaty helps manage tensions among nations. Bill shares insights on surprise inspections he leads to ensure compliance from Russia and China. As climate change shifts the geopolitical landscape, he debates if Antarctica can maintain its peaceful status amidst rising global pressures and economic interests.

Nov 27, 2024 • 41min
National Security's AI Wunderkind: Alex Wang
Andy talks with Alex Wang, the founder and CEO of Scale AI, to discuss the rapidly evolving landscape of artificial intelligence and its implications for national security. Forbes says Alex, at age 25, is the world's youngest self-made billionaire. He describes the three foundational pillars of AI—data, compute, and algorithms—and how advancements in each have driven recent progress. Alex discusses how AI advancement could enable adversaries to pose new threats to US national security, and the guardrails the technology may need.
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