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Jun 6, 2025 • 31min

Now Renting: 8 Million Sq Ft of Sadness

L.A. may have lost its crown as the world’s production capital, but it’s still sitting on 8 million square feet of sound stages. So what to do with all that excess space? Think bar mitzvahs, weddings, YouTubers and cover shoots. Elaine Low, Sean McNulty and Natalie Jarvey explore how L.A.’s sound stages are the new dead malls and what that means for the future of production in LA., and who’s still filming locally (shoutout to Abbott Elementary and Grey’s Anatomy). Plus: What new layoffs at Disney and WBD mean. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Jun 4, 2025 • 35min

The 'American Idol' Pastor Who Helped Katherine McPhee and More Stars Shine

In this episode of Hollywood Stories: Tales From Television, Richard Rushfield takes us back to the heyday of the original “American Idol” in the aughts and early 2010s, when the Fox juggernaut dominated conversation everywhere from “Howard Stern” to the “Today” show and produced megastars like Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood. But there was one powerful figure behind the scenes whose quiet devotion touched future superstars from Katherine McPhee to Jordin Sparks: Pastor Leesa Bellesi. Through her American Idol Ministry, Bellesi not only prayed for the success of these contestants, but she also helped them and their families navigate the harsh spotlight of sudden fame that glared upon even the ones who didn't make it far. Richard chronicled Bellisi’s incredible journey in his 2011 book, “American Idol: The Untold Story,” and now, more than two decades later, they revisit it together as she recalls her spiritual connection with the show and its stars — from the Bible passage that bonded her with McPhee to a fateful prayer circle with judge Paula Abdul. "It was such a God thing," she tells Richard. "The prayers that I prayed in that room are living themselves out still to this day." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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May 30, 2025 • 32min

Mubi vs. Marvel: A New High-Stakes Film Era

Ashley Cullins, a Dealmakers' representative, dives into the shifting tides of the film industry. She highlights the unexpected optimism for indie films following the Cannes Film Festival, fueled by Mubi's hefty investment in a Jennifer Lawrence project. The conversation also dissects Marvel's box office struggles, pointing to quality issues and changing audience dynamics. Directors are becoming key assets in film financing, raising questions about the future of franchise hits like the Fantastic Four reboot.
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May 28, 2025 • 45min

Bruce Vilanch and the Wild World of 1970s Variety TV Spectaculars

For the second episode of Hollywood Stories’ sophomore season, Richard Rushfield talks to the brilliant and bawdy Bruce Vilanch, known as the longtime joke purveyor extraordinaire for the Oscars (plus the Emmys, Tonys and more). But before he became the go-to for Hollywood galas, Vilanch got his start in writing for the big variety shows and specials that peppered the network schedules of the 1960s and ’70s and represent the height of television’s most flamboyant and unhinged period. Expanding on some of the wildest misadventures chronicled in  his new book, “It Seemed Like a Bad Idea at the Time,” Vilanch takes Richard through three of those song-and-dance spectaculars — the “Star Wars Holiday Special” that George Lucas famously disowned, the “Paul Lynde Halloween Special” and the short-lived series “The Brady Bunch Hour.” From writing material for graceless Wookiees to putting Robert Reed's Mike Brady in Carmen Miranda drag, Vilanch revels in how right it felt when everything went fantastically wrong. “It was ridiculous, but I had fun,” he recalls. “A lot of these things were conceived in clouds of smoke.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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May 23, 2025 • 31min

Netflix, Disney+ & YouTube: The Fight to Babysit Your Kids

Netflix just picked up Sesame Street, but this isn’t just about Elmo. It’s a calculated move in the high-stakes fight for kids’ attention — and future subscribers. Elaine Low, Natalie Jarvey and Sean McNulty dig into why streamers like Netflix and Disney+ are doubling down on branded kids content while others quietly exit, and why Paramount+ has untapped potential. From Miss Rachel to Bluey to Gabby’s Dollhouse, Paw Patrol to PBS, this episode unpacks how the battle for the youngest viewers is reshaping strategy — and why it matters more than you think. Also: final thoughts on Final Destination, and a few bold and likely-to-be-regretted weekend movie plans, including Lilo and Stitch side-eye. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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May 21, 2025 • 58min

TV Tales: 'Big Mouth' Creators Nick Kroll & Andrew Goldberg Tell (Almost) All

Hollywood Stories is back! The Ankler pod series returns, this time focusing on untold tales from the world of TV as shared by the people who work in its trenches. In this debut episode of season two, Richard Rushfield hosts a revealing, in-depth interview with four creative minds behind Netflix’s hilarious, animated (but decidedly not-for-little-kids) hit, ‘Big Mouth,’ whose eighth and final season drops on May 23. Comedians and co-creators Nick Kroll and Andrew Goldberg swing by to discuss their silly, simpatico partnership that dates back to first grade, their own anxieties from puberty, and how they used their celebrity pull to get Hugh Jackman, Jordan Peele, Paul Giamatti and others to sign on for appearances. Richard also sits down with veteran writers and fellow co-creators Jennifer Flackett and Mark Levin, who explain why you can never go too far in pushing the risqué envelope and why ‘Big Mouth’ could never in a million years have happened at a network. Says Flackett, "It would have been a different show." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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May 16, 2025 • 32min

Upfronts: Less Glitz, Higher Stakes & a Fierce Fight to Win

The Upfronts are evolving, shedding glitz but raising stakes as platforms like Netflix and YouTube gain power. A humorous take on HBO's rebranding showcases the industry's branding blunders. The inaugural 'Uppie Awards' celebrate thrilling moments, with celebrity cameos drawing mixed reviews. A highlight from a recent YouTube event features unexpected athlete antics, and engaging commentary dives into how sports are overshadowing scripted content. The importance of innovative ad strategies and tech keeps the industry buzzing.
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May 9, 2025 • 32min

The Week Trump Terrified Hollywood

The discussion reveals skepticism about Trump's plans to bring movie production back to the U.S., examining the impact of tariffs on Hollywood. The group critiques California Governor Newsom's proposals, highlighting the industry's financial struggles amid a shifting landscape. They explore the rising influence of digital platforms over traditional media, and how entertainment giants like Disney navigate these challenges. The hosts emphasize the uncertain future of filmmaking in the U.S. as global competition intensifies.
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May 2, 2025 • 31min

What Deals in 2025 Reveal So Far

Overalls, first-look pacts and original films are making a comeback — on paper, at least. Deal volume is up, but value is down. And that original film revival? It’s starting to come from outside the studios. Ashley Cullins joins Elaine Low, Sean McNulty and Natalie Jarvey to unpack her two-part series on current deal trends, from Sinners’ mid-budget model to the studio execs evangelizing for self-releasing on YouTube. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Apr 30, 2025 • 38min

How Webtoon Is Building an IP Gold Mine

Natalie Jarvey, author of Ankler Media's creator economy newsletter, Like & Subscribe, sits down with Webtoon Entertainment COO David J. Lee and Wattpad Webtoon Studios' global head of entertainment, David Madden at NAB Show in Vegas. In this bonus episode they explore how Webtoon plans to expand the market for digital comics in the U.S. through Hollywood adaptations. Netflix's "Heartstopper" and "All of Us Are Dead" originated from Webtoon, and the company's studio is now making its own projects including Tubi's hit film "Sidelined: The QB and Me" and its upcoming sequel. Hear how Webtoon is capitalizing on global fandoms to amplify creators who can make up to $1 million a year on its platform. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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