

Property Management Frame Breakers
Vendoroo
The Property Management Frame Breakers podcast is about showcasing the innovators who are reshaping property management. It profiles leaders who have "broken the frame" by rethinking traditional practices and excelling with bold, unconventional strategies.
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May 17, 2025 • 35min
Ep 31 | Leaked AI Memos Just Said What No One Has Been Saying (Aloud)
Three internal AI memos leaked from Shopify, Duolingo, and Fiverr—and they weren’t written for headlines. They were written as wake-up calls to their own teams. The message?AI isn’t coming. It’s already deciding who survives.In this episode, Vendoroo's Chief Evangelist, Pablo Gonzalez, breaks down each memo—what they said, how the tone escalates from policy shift to existential threat, and why they all point to one unavoidable truth:What used to be impossible is now the new hard. And what’s merely hard? It’s already being automated.He dives deep into :- what each CEO is thinking & how they plan to react - what you can take from each CEO's strategy & communication style- how he's adapting his own behavior to this new reality🎧 Listen now for a raw, honest breakdown of the biggest shift since the cloud and why the PMs who act now will be tomorrow’s category kings.🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🎙️ Follow Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn🌐 Visit Vendoroo's WebsiteChapters:01:25 Shopify Says It Out Loud —Reflexive AI Use Is the New Minimum03:50 What Leadership Looks Like When the CEO Becomes the Practitioner05:45 10x People + 10x Tools = 100x Results07:30 Shopify’s 6 Rules for Embedding AI in Everything09:30 Duolingo’s Big Bet—AI Is the New Mobile Moment11:00 Why “Minor Tweaks” Are Dead—It’s Time to Rethink Work from Scratch12:40 5 Moves Duolingo’s Making to Go AI-First15:25 Fiverr Doesn’t Sugarcoat It: “AI Is Coming for Your Job”17:00 From Panic to Practice—How to Respond to the AI Threat18:20 Fiverr’s 7-Point AI Survival Guide20:50 This Is What PMs Should Take from These Memos Right Now23:10 Pablo’s Wake-Up Memo to His Friends24:50 Why AI Puts Everyone Back at Zero

May 14, 2025 • 30min
Ep 30 | The Non-Obvious Leadership Gap In Property Management w/ Michael Fisher
Ready or not, AI is about to expose the leadership gap hiding in plain sight.In this no-BS episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Michael Fisher pulls no punches: AI isn’t just here to automate tasks — it’s here to separate true leaders from managers clinging to the past. From scaling companies to mastering the shifts from VAs to AI, Michael reveals a hard truth: growth doesn’t stall because of markets or models — it stalls because leaders fail to evolve.You’ll learn:💡 Why leadership — not just systems — is the biggest bottleneck in scaling🔥 How AI will expose weak leadership and force a new standard🎯 How to train AI like a team member and reclaim time for high-value work📈 The secret to boosting revenue per employee, not just per unit🤝 Why companies that use AI best will deliver the most human, personalized experiencesMichael Fisher and Pablo Gonzalez go deep on why the future of property management belongs to bold, visionary leaders who break free from firefighting, double down on people, and harness AI as their ultimate advantage — not a threat.🎧 Hit play to learn how to lead, scale, and thrive while others get left behind in the AI era.🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🤝 Connect with Michael Fisher on LinkedIn 🎙️ Follow Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn🌐 Visit Vendoroo's WebsiteChapters:00:00 Feeling stuck as a leader and hitting growth ceilings03:12 Unlocking growth through leadership, not just effort06:18 Moving from virtual assistants to AI as the next big leap09:30 Developing AI as a leadership skill and learning to delegate12:44 Delivering a guaranteed experience that raises the client bar16:00 Breaking free from the standardization vs. personalization trap19:15 Turning vision into reality with better implementation22:27 Rethinking success with revenue per employee, not just units25:10 Driving employee fulfillment and unlocking team potential27:42 Embracing the transformational power of leadership in the AI era

May 10, 2025 • 24min
Ep 29 | How We Got That Room at NARPM Broker/Owner (Behind the Scenes)
Join host Pablo Gonzalez on the Property Management Frame Breakers podcast as he unveils the backstory and strategic approach that led to a remarkable achievement at the NARPM Broker/Owner event. Discover how strategic community building, content co-creation, and genuine relationship-building drove massive success and brand trust for Vendoroo. Learn about Pablo's decade-long journey of leveraging community value, the impact of AI advocacy, and the transformative results of their innovative marketing tactics in the property management industry.🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🎙️ Follow Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn🌐 Visit Vendoroo's WebsiteChapters:00:00 Introduction and Event Impact01:57 Personal Backstory and Business Development Philosophy04:22 Building a Community-Centric Business06:24 Success with JWB Real Estate Capital07:21 Joining Vendaroo and Implementing the Relationship Flywheel09:06 AI Alliance and Content Strategy12:12 Executing the AI Pavilion at NPA Broker Owner18:15 Key Takeaways and Business Insights22:13 Conclusion and Encouragement

May 7, 2025 • 47min
Ep 28 | Shifting To Asset Management- A Real World Example w/ Paul Arrington
Rental property management is evolving — and simply fixing problems isn't enough anymore.In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez, Chief Evangelist of Vendoroo, sits down with Paul Arrington ——Broker/Owner of PMI Arrico Realty and Property Management, and a nationally recognized property management leader — to talk about his unique approach on growing revenue in his business and be seen as an asset manager.They break down why today's winners must move beyond daily firefighting and start creating visible, strategic value that owners can actually see, trust, and invest in.You’ll learn:🚨 Why reactive rental property management is becoming a liability🔄 Best strategies for transitioning from property manager to asset manager🏡 How property managers can help owners unlock home equity and build real estate wealth🤖 Using AI tools to enhance owner relationships and communication🤝 How creating positive owner touchpoints leads to lasting trust and freedom from daily firefightingIf you're ready to scale without the pain, turn everyday management into owner loyalty, and finally be seen and valued for the work you do, this episode is for you.🎧 Listen now and access the roadmap to become the advisor owners rely on — not just the manager they forget🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🤝 Connect with Paul Arrington on LinkedIn 🎙️ Follow Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website🚀 Vendoroo 90-day free promo (AI receptionist, AI triage, AI troubleshooting, and work order creation): ttps://info.vendoroo.ai/2025-free-offer/Offer Ends Dec 31, 2025Chapters:00:00 From Air Force to Asset Manager01:10 Touring Tampa and Content Creation Setup02:41 Becoming more than a middleman in the real estate transaction04:20 Landlord property manager vs. Asset property manager06:55 Equity as a Strategic Lever08:55 Zero Return on Equity: The Hidden Cost11:50 Forecasting Over Reporting14:50 Changing Owner Mindsets with Real Numbers18:25 Portfolio Coaching via Zoom21:20 Software Tools That Empower PMs to be Wealth Advisors24:40 Learning from Institutional Investors: American Homes 4 Rent28:55 AI as the Forever Teammate: Tools vs. Relationships32:50 Inflection Points: Crisis as Opportunity37:15 Partnering with Realtors Post-NAR Changes41:55 Finding Properties Beyond Local Markets45:25 Being a Wealth Builder, Not Just a Manager49:00 Shiny New Tech Traps or Core Systems53:40 Vendoroo and AI Done Right58:30 Building Legacy Over Empire

May 3, 2025 • 29min
Ep 27 | Leading Your Team Through What's Next
In property management, growth is addictive—but dangerous. While you’re chasing the next deal or door, your oldest, most loyal clients can quietly slip away.In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, host Pablo Gonzalez returns to Stacey’s powerful vision of a trust-first property management company—but this time, he tackles the real question: how do you get from here to there?Pablo explores why neglecting your long-term clients is the silent threat no one’s talking about, how to reconnect with your existing portfolio, and what practical steps will move you from firefighting to guiding.You’ll learn:🚨 Why your growth playbook may be hurting you💬 How to fortify loyalty with small, meaningful signals🧠 The mindset shift that separates today’s leaders from tomorrow’s legends🛠️ A clear, actionable roadmap for turning big vision into daily practice🎧 Listen now for a roadmap to scaling your business without sacrificing trust, loyalty, 🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🎙️ Follow Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn🌐 Visit Vendoroo's WebsiteChapters:00:00 Why Certain Topics Stick and Shape Who We Become01:30 How Jumping Topics Every Week Turns Podcasts Into Noise02:45 Getting So Hyped on New Clients You Forget the Ones Who Built You05:30 The Moment You Realize a Competitor Just Took Your Lunch07:10 Why Stacey’s Vision Still Echoes in My Head Today09:00 Breaking Down How Stacey’s Vision Still Schools Us All10:10 Closing the Gap Between Where You Are and Where You Dream to Be13:45 The Hardest Part About Changing How You Roll Is Often Unspoken18:45 Simple Ways to Reconnect Add Value and Show You Still Care

Apr 30, 2025 • 31min
Ep 26 | The Cost Of Misaligned Incentives In Property Management — And To Rethink It W/ Mark Brower
A bold truth was laid bare: most PM companies profit the most when their clients suffer the most—through tenant turnover, late fees, and avoidable issues.In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Mark Brower —founder of Mark Brower Properties gets radically honest about the structural flaws inside most property management businesses—and what happened when those flaws showed up in his own team. After losing all three of his PMs, Mark went inward, rethinking alignment from culture to operations to pricing.You’ll learn:🧠 Why “psychological safety” isn’t about comfort—it’s about predictability🛠️ How to fix your hiring process so it surfaces real culture fit early💡 The subtle ways your pricing model might be eroding owner trust🔄 Why fee-based incentives often reward failure instead of results👥 What it means to lead a team through vulnerability—not protection🚀 How AI enables “fixed-cost scaling” so your team can focus on relationships📉 Why obsessing over RPU might be costing you long-term growthWhat follows is a raw conversation about culture, ownership, and why the status quo might be working against your growth, even if your revenue says otherwise.If you’ve ever wondered why something still feels “off” in your business, this one’s for you.🎧 Listen now to rethink what safety, trust, and true alignment really look like in property management.🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🤝 Connect with Mark Brower on LinkedIn🎙️ Follow Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn🌐 Visit Vendoroo's WebsiteChapters:01:28 The emotional impact of hearing “I didn’t feel safe here”03:55 What does safety really mean in a work environment?06:12 Balancing fast learning with team vulnerability08:24 Wrestling with the contradiction between openness and consequences10:46 Hiring mistakes aren’t always about the hire—they’re about the process12:01 Probation periods as necessary discomfort in hiring14:42 Creating a hiring process that filters for growth mindset 15:42 Why new hires should be exposed to raw team dynamics early17:21 A PM model that profits most when clients are hurting19:18 The dangers of gaming RPU at the expense of value21:43 The power of shifting from first-order to second-order thinking24:56 AI, fixed-cost scaling, and the real opportunity ahead

Apr 26, 2025 • 21min
Ep 25 | The AI-First PMC Org Chart- Wheels, AI, and the Future of Work
In this solo episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez unpacks an idea that’s been rattling around in his head: what if the evolution of AI mirrors the invention of the wheel?Not just the wheel itself—but how we first used it for pottery, then one day, someone turned it sideways… and everything started to move. That shift—from shaping clay to transporting people—feels a lot like what we’re experiencing right now with artificial intelligence.Generative AI was the first big spark. But Agentic AI? That’s the wheel in motion. That’s when things really change.Pablo shares why he thinks this matters right now—especially for folks in property management—and how this tech isn’t just about efficiency. It’s about rethinking the roles we play, the trust we build, and the way we structure entire teams.He also brings in a powerful insight from Stacey, an industry leader he deeply respects, who’s already thinking ahead to what this means for the companies of tomorrow.If you’ve been trying to make sense of where AI is headed and what it means for your business, this one’s for you.🎧 Listen now for a frame-breaking conversation on what it really means to build the property management company of the future.🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🎙️ Follow Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn🌐 Visit Vendoroo's WebsiteChapters:00:00 The Invention of the Wheel: A Historical Perspective01:26 AI: The Modern-Day Wheel01:55 Generative AI vs. Agent AI03:03 Reimagining Civilization with AI05:27 The Future of Work: Thought Experiments05:32 Case Study: Stacey's Property Management Success07:15 Building a Modern Property Management Company08:20 The Role of AI in Property Management10:23 Trust Building in the Age of AI14:49 The Exponential Growth of AI15:41 Call to Action: Embracing AI

Apr 23, 2025 • 31min
Ep 24 | Capacity Is The New ROI - Jay Berube On Q2 2025 State Of AI In Property Management
The biggest growth bottleneck in property management isn’t people, time, or tech.It’s capacity—and most PMs are short on it. That's why the most successful property management companies today are no longer just hiring people... they're hiring AI Agents.That is just one of the big takeaways Jay Berube- executive coach, BetterWHO co-founder, and AI Expert- and Vendoroo's Chief Evangelist, Pablo Gonzalez, had after 3 days in Colorado for NARPM Broker/Owner.In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, they catch up after the conference and break down all their takeaways around the current state of AI in property management going into Q2 2025.You’ll learn:🧠 Why the “more growth = more staff” belief is being challenged ⚙️ How AI maintenance coordination is transforming team structure 📋 What Betty the AI Agent as a Coach taught us about property management SOP automation (and sanity) 📈 Why AI-certified team members hit the ground running 👨👩👧 Why capacity building for property managers is the new growth engine 💡 How PMs are using agentic AI to reclaim their owner relationshipsJay nails it better: “AI isn’t here to replace people. It’s here to let people show up where they matter most.”🎧 Tune in for a future-forward conversation about building teams, creating space, and redefining ROI in property management.🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🤝 Connect with Jay Berube on LinkedIn 🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn🌐 Visit Vendoroo's WebsiteChapters:01:28 The Trust Gap That Makes or Breaks AI Strategy03:55 How One Year of AI Outpaced the Last Ten06:12 The New Definition of Profit in Property Management08:24 Agentic AI as the Last Hire You’ll Ever Need10:46 The Fusion Org Chart That’s Replacing the 150-Door PM Model12:01 Why the “Do It All” Mentality is Quietly Burning Out PMs14:42 Meet Betty: The AI Coach That Ends ‘Ask Susan’ Forever15:42 This Chatbot Replaces Your SOP Binder17:21 Turn Any Hire Into an AI-Native in Just 16 Hours19:18 Capacity Unlock That Reframes Efficiency Forever21:43 How One PM Cut Maintenance to 30 Minutes a Day24:56 How AI is Rewriting the Most Dreaded Call in Real Estate26:04 The Shift from Buying Tools to Hiring Solutions28:01 AI Agent That 76% of PMs Would Hire Today

Apr 19, 2025 • 21min
Ep 23 | Peter & Wolf’s 8 AI “AHA!” Moments
The days of needing a Fortune 500 budget to build AI tools are over. Now, any PM can build a chatbot or custom agent in a weekend.In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez breaks down a game-changing conversation between Peter Lohmann and Wolfgang Croskey—and adds a third lens you need to hear: the builder’s POV from inside the AI engine room.This episode dives deep into how property managers can stop fearing AI and start using it to become more human, more visible, and more trusted than ever before. You’ll hear:💡 Why the real threat isn’t AI—it’s closed platforms and outdated SaaS models🤖 How PMs can use agentic AI to serve more doors without sacrificing personal touch🧠 What it means to shift from workflow building to intelligence designing📞 And why owners don’t want help desks—they want advisorsThis episode is for property managers ready to build custom AI agents into their real estate operations.🎧 Listen now and learn why AI won’t replace PMs—because it’s making the best ones irreplaceable.🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🎙️ Follow Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn🌐 Visit Vendoroo's WebsiteChapters:01:28 The 3 PM Mindsets: Operator, Tinkerer, Builder03:55 Why Locking PMs into One Platform Is the Fastest Way to Lose Them06:12 SaaS Is Facing an Existential Threat from AI Agents08:24 Coaches Aren’t Building Workflows Anymore—They’re Building Intelligence10:46 What Used to Cost $200K Now Costs $20—And You Can Build It This Weekend12:01 Voice AI Shouldn’t Do Everything. It Should Know When Not To.14:42 AI as Your Assistant—Not Your Identity15:42 Owners Want Phone Call Culture—Not Help Desks17:21 How AI Frees PMs to Inject Value

Apr 16, 2025 • 39min
Ep 22 | Early Adopters = Bigger Success – Stacey Salyer on How Being First To Jump On New Technology Leads To Bigger Wealth Outcomes
Caution looks smart—but what happens when playing it safe is the fastest way to fall behind?In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Stacey Salyer — Property Management Strategist, acquisition advisor, and founder of a remote-first PMC — breaks down why early adopters win bigger and why most property management companies are scaling backwards. From outdated org charts to hiring the wrong roles (and doing it too fast), Stacey shares how she built for flexibility, exited successfully, and now coaches other PMCs on how to futureproof a property management company.This is a full-on mindset shift for PMs who want to stop reacting and start building from the future back–with modern org charts, remote teams, and AI that supports trust, not just efficiency.You’ll learn:🧠 Why “working in the present” is the biggest trap in property management 👥 The radical team role Stacey would hire first (hint: it’s not a coordinator) 📉 How to eliminate burnout by fixing your Monday—not your software 🧠 Why trust and experience—not EBITDA—drove her successful exit 🤖 How to use AI to automate maintenance workflows without losing the human touch 💡 What future-ready org charts actually look like (and why they scare traditional PMs) 🎯 Why community-driven PMC growth models are the new growth strategy—and the best retention tool you’re not usingAs Stacey says: “If you're working in the present, you're behind.”🎧 Listen now to learn how to rewire your PMC for the next era — with fewer bottlenecks, more clarity, and a team built to scale what matters.🌟 Stay Connected with Us: 🤝 Connect with Stacey Salyer on LinkedIn 📘 Grab Stacey's PropTech & AI Blueprint🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn 💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn 🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website Chapters:00:00 From Zero Credit to Remote CEO01:28 Why Most PMC Owners Feel Stuck (And What They’re Missing)03:55 Why Strategy Starts With “What’s Coming”06:12 The Remote-First Bet That Changed Everything08:24 How Stacey Bought a PMC During COVID—And Made It Work10:46 The Monday Fix That Transformed Teams12:01 What Real Buyers Evaluate During Acquisitions—beyond EBITDA14:42 Why Being Told You’re “Crazy” Is Often Your Best Signal To Keep Going17:21 AI Isn’t a Tool—It’s a Team Member Now19:18 Using AI to Reclaim Time and Rebuild Human Connection21:43 The ‘Community Builder’ Role That Doesn’t Exist Yet (But Should)24:56 Why Your Ops Lead Should Be a Therapist, Not a Technician26:04 Making Even The Biggest Service Issues Smooth and Drama-free.28:01 Get Out of the Property Management Business - Get In The WOW Business30:44 High-Impact Way for PMs to Create Content Without Cringing35:02The Personality Behind the Community Model


