
This Working Life
You spend so much time on work, why accept the status quo, when there are ways to do it better? Get expert advice, research and hacks that will crush your inertia.
Join Lisa Leong and other This Working Lifers as we experiment and explore the latest in the world of work.
We cover policy issues, like hybrid workplaces and remote work, employee wellbeing and organisational culture, the use of AI, employee surveillance, employee engagement, diversity and inclusion. We talk about progress on wider issues that relate to work, like work life balance, organisational change, restructures, and casualisation. On This Working Life our focus is on everything related to the people in a workplace too, including culture, individual experiences, performance management and career advice.
Latest episodes

17 snips
Feb 14, 2025 • 26min
How to nail a job interview
Join career coach Dave Wolovsky, a neuroscience expert, and Melbourne-based career counsellor Annique Teycheney as they share their secrets to acing job interviews. They tackle common pitfalls like sweaty palms and talking too much, offering amusing anecdotes and insightful strategies for effective preparation. Learn about the importance of self-awareness, personal branding, and how AI can enhance your interview readiness. Plus, discover practical techniques to manage anxiety and ensure your responses are clear and impactful.

Feb 7, 2025 • 25min
Does DEI need a reset?
In this thought-provoking discussion, Michelle Lim, an expert in organizational culture and DEI ethics, and Lily Zheng, a workplace strategist and author, tackle the rising skepticism towards DEI initiatives. They explore the delicate landscape of diversity and inclusion in Australia, emphasizing the need for cultural literacy and effective communication. The duo introduces the FAIR framework to reframe DEI as a vital component of business success, not just a moral obligation, urging companies to create equitable environments for all.

Jan 31, 2025 • 25min
Tuning into signals at work
In this discussion, Ben Hamer, Chief Futurist at Thinkertank and a pro at spotting future trends, dives into the nuances of weak signals shaping the workplace. He highlights how shifts in DEI efforts can be influenced by subtle indicators and societal reactions. Hamer also explores the generational changes in work management, with younger employees favoring purpose over traditional roles. Furthermore, he shares practical advice for cultivating productive habits to improve work-life balance, making the future of work both promising and challenging.

Jan 24, 2025 • 25min
Want to do things differently this year?
Dr. BJ Fogg, behavior scientist and creator of the Tiny Habits method, shares insights on how to effectively implement changes at work. He discusses the psychological discomfort of transitioning back to work and highlights the importance of setting achievable goals that align with personal values. The podcast introduces practical strategies for building lasting habits through the Tiny Habits Method, focusing on small actions that lead to significant changes. Listeners learn about the emotional aspects of habit formation and how to cultivate a fulfilling work life.

Jan 19, 2025 • 25min
Feeling meh? How to get your work mojo back
Jennifer Moss, a workplace culture strategist and award-winning journalist, dives into the epidemic of workplace disengagement. She discusses the rise of 'quiet quitting' and 'rage applying', revealing how many feel disconnected and uninspired. Moss critiques toxic productivity and stresses the importance of purpose and social connections for job satisfaction. She also emphasizes the need for empathy in workplace relationships and offers practical strategies to regain motivation and achieve a better work-life balance.

Jan 19, 2025 • 25min
How to be a friction fixer
Robert Sutton, a Professor at Stanford Business School and co-author of The Friction Project, dives into the nuances of workplace friction. He explains that not all friction is negative and shares strategies for becoming a 'friction fixer.' Sutton discusses practical methods like 'sludge audits' to enhance efficiency in tech and the significance of clear communication to eliminate jargon. Personal stories from Hamish Thompson, Kate McCallum, and Yashika Nayyar reveal real-life applications of these concepts in tackling friction.

Jan 12, 2025 • 25min
How your childhood dreams can help your career
In this engaging discussion with Paul Harvey, a Lecturer and Executive Coach at INSEAD Business School, listeners discover how childhood dreams influence career fulfillment. Paul explains how these early aspirations reveal unconscious motivations critical for job satisfaction. He shares intriguing stories about diverse professions and their connections to adult choices. Additionally, he offers insights on how leaders can boost team motivation by linking their members' childhood ambitions to their current roles, fostering deeper engagement at work.

23 snips
Jan 5, 2025 • 25min
Making decisions like a pro
Ellen Langer, a Harvard psychology professor and author of The Mindful Body, dives into the art of decision-making. She explores the staggering number of choices we face daily and offers insights on reducing decision-related stress. The discussion unveils how personal perceptions influence workplace stress and highlights the transformative journey of redefining careers later in life. Additionally, the interplay between emotions and choices is examined, with a focus on using mindfulness to navigate regret and enhance personal growth.

Dec 29, 2024 • 25min
How to develop 'executive presence'
Colin James, an executive coach known for enhancing leaders' communication skills, joins forces with Megumi Miki, a consultant and author focused on the leadership potential of quiet individuals. They delve into the evolving nature of 'executive presence,' emphasizing confidence over superficiality. The discussion includes how authentic communication and adaptability shape impactful leadership. They also explore the balance between authenticity and competence, and provide tips on fostering confidence and compassion for effective leadership.

Dec 22, 2024 • 25min
Will jargon ever be 'phased out' altogether?
Dr. Howie Manns, a linguistics expert from Monash University, and Zachariah Brown, an assistant professor specializing in jargon at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, tackle the pervasive use of professional jargon. They discuss its dual nature—how it can facilitate communication but also create misunderstandings. The conversation delves into euphemistic language in HR, the influence of sports metaphors in business, and the balance between fostering group identity and ensuring clarity in workplace communication.
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