
Chasing Excellence
Looking to build more than just physical fitness? Join Ben Bergeron and Patrick Cummings as they explore how daily practices create the foundation for lasting peace of mind. Through practical frameworks and honest conversations, discover how deep health unlocks the freedom to chase what truly matters. Learn the five essential factors - training, eating, thinking, sleeping, and connecting - that transform fleeting moments of clarity into a life of sustained fulfillment. If you're ready to move beyond quick fixes and build peace of mind, this is your guide.
Latest episodes

Jul 11, 2023 • 33min
Benchmark: The Ingredients of Happiness, Giving Time, Prioritizing Relationships, & More
In this episode first published in April of 2017, we talk about why happiness doesn't live on the other side of achievement, gratitude, & why relationships matter more than money. =========== OUR SPONSORS: =========== 🔗 LMNT 🔗 Eight Sleep =========== GET A QUESTION IN THE QUEUE: =========== 🔗 Send Patrick a DM with your Five Factors questions! =========== ABOUT US: =========== 📍 Ben Bergeron is a best-selling author, coach to 7 CrossFit Games champions, and founder of CompTrain. Find him on Instagram. 📍 Patrick Cummings is a long-time CrossFitter and podcaster. Find him on Instagram.
[[]---[]]Chasing Excellence is an audience-supported project. To go deeper & to help us do even more, consider:Subscribing to our newsletter to get our free posts and upgrading to our Chase Club to receive exclusive content.Grabbing one of our books: Chasing Excellence, Unlocking Potential, or The ABCs of Being Happy & Healthy.Supporting one of our fantastic show sponsors.

Jul 4, 2023 • 1h 5min
Changing Your Environment, Five Second Hugs, Male Friendships, and More
What do we do when we find ourselves working a job with people who don’t align with the healthy, meaningful life we want to lead? That’s the listener question we’re answering this week, talking about how to measure the strength of our relationships, why it’s so hard to prioritize, the importance of balance, and more. =========== EXPECT TO LEARN =========== 📍 If focusing on fitness now (eventually) leads to health issues later in life 📍 The difference between the coach and the critic in our minds 📍 How to deal with folks who have strong opinions about health that you disagree with 📍 How few men claim to have close friendships (and why that is) 📍 A couple books and movies we’ve been enjoying lately =========== OUR SPONSORS: =========== 🔗 Timeline Nutrition =========== GET A QUESTION IN THE QUEUE: =========== 🔗 Send Patrick a DM with your Five Factors questions! =========== ABOUT US: =========== 📍 Ben Bergeron is a best-selling author, coach to 7 CrossFit Games champions, and founder of CompTrain. Find him on Instagram. 📍 Patrick Cummings is a long-time CrossFitter and podcaster. Find him on Instagram.
[[]---[]]Chasing Excellence is an audience-supported project. To go deeper & to help us do even more, consider:Subscribing to our newsletter to get our free posts and upgrading to our Chase Club to receive exclusive content.Grabbing one of our books: Chasing Excellence, Unlocking Potential, or The ABCs of Being Happy & Healthy.Supporting one of our fantastic show sponsors.

Jun 27, 2023 • 60min
Benchmark: Putting Your Ladder Against the Right Wall, the Fulfillment Framework, & More
In this episode, first published in September of 2021, we talk about putting our ladders up against the right walls and about the system Ben uses to chase fulfillment, accomplish big goals, and stay focused every day. =========== OUR SPONSORS: =========== 🔗 LMNT 🔗 Eight Sleep =========== GET A QUESTION IN THE QUEUE: =========== 🔗 Send Patrick a DM with your Five Factors questions! =========== ABOUT US: =========== 📍 Ben Bergeron is a best-selling author, coach to 7 CrossFit Games champions, and founder of CompTrain. Find him on Instagram. 📍 Patrick Cummings is a long-time CrossFitter and podcaster. Find him on Instagram.
[[]---[]]Chasing Excellence is an audience-supported project. To go deeper & to help us do even more, consider:Subscribing to our newsletter to get our free posts and upgrading to our Chase Club to receive exclusive content.Grabbing one of our books: Chasing Excellence, Unlocking Potential, or The ABCs of Being Happy & Healthy.Supporting one of our fantastic show sponsors.

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Jun 20, 2023 • 1h 2min
Competing Too Much, Hijacking Conversations, Living on Autopilot, Walking 300k Steps, & More - with Cole Sager
Cole Sager joins us as he’s preparing for his 10th straight CrossFit Games appearance to answer listener questions about how to know if you’re competing too much, how to stop hijacking conversations, what it looks like to live on autopilot, and much more. ========= EXPECT TO LEARN: ========= 📍 How and why Cole and Ben first started working together 📍 When competing too much might do more damage than good 📍 What parasympathetic lash-back is, and why you want to be careful of it 📍 What Cole’s training looked like after Semifinals 📍 Why it’s important to be the most curious person in a conversation ========= GET A QUESTION IN THE QUEUE: ========= Send Patrick a DM with your Five Factors questions! ========= ABOUT US: ========= 📍 Ben Bergeron is a best-selling author, coach to 7 CrossFit Games champions, and founder of CompTrain. Find him on Instagram. 📍 Patrick Cummings is a long-time CrossFitter & podcaster. Find him on Instagram.
[[]---[]]Chasing Excellence is an audience-supported project. To go deeper & to help us do even more, consider:Subscribing to our newsletter to get our free posts and upgrading to our Chase Club to receive exclusive content.Grabbing one of our books: Chasing Excellence, Unlocking Potential, or The ABCs of Being Happy & Healthy.Supporting one of our fantastic show sponsors.

5 snips
Jun 13, 2023 • 1h 1min
Last Year Coaching CrossFit Games Athletes
Ben recently announced that this will be his last year coaching elite athletes to pursue success at the CrossFit Games. We talk this week about why, the future of CompTrain, the three elements of resilience, and much more. ========= EXPECT TO LEARN: ========= 📍 How to build an equipment-free, CrossFit-inspired workout program 📍 What to do when you realize you’ve been triggered but can’t get past it 📍 Whether CrossFit’s original nutrition prescription is still relevant 📍 Why the most important thing in the gym is to ensure you never take steps back 📍 How to get buy-in and make smart decisions as a leader ========= GET A QUESTION IN THE QUEUE: ========= Send Patrick a DM with your Five Factors questions! ========= ABOUT US: ========= 📍 Ben Bergeron is a best-selling author, coach to 7 CrossFit Games champions, and founder of CompTrain. Find him on Instagram. 📍 Patrick Cummings is a long-time CrossFitter & podcaster. Find him on Instagram.
[[]---[]]Chasing Excellence is an audience-supported project. To go deeper & to help us do even more, consider:Subscribing to our newsletter to get our free posts and upgrading to our Chase Club to receive exclusive content.Grabbing one of our books: Chasing Excellence, Unlocking Potential, or The ABCs of Being Happy & Healthy.Supporting one of our fantastic show sponsors.

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Jun 6, 2023 • 1h 8min
Achieving Hard to Measure Goals
Chasing objective, easy-to-measure goals are one thing. But chasing subjective, hard-to-measure ones are another thing altogether. So, how do we get started making progress on things like improving our empathy or being a better spouse? That’s what we’re diving into this week. ========= EXPECT TO LEARN:========= 📍 How to training when your CrossFit gym cancels your favorite class 📍 Why the goal of mindset shouldn’t be indifference, but a lack of judgment 📍 How to wrangle life admin tasks that can feel endless 📍 Why trust is so important to build as a leader 📍 Who we would add to our apocalypse team ========= OUR SPONSORS:========= 🔗 BetterHelp ========= GET A QUESTION IN THE QUEUE:========= Send Patrick a DM with your Five Factors questions! ========= ABOUT US:========= 📍 Ben Bergeron is a best-selling author, coach to 7 CrossFit Games champions, and founder of CompTrain. Find him on Instagram. 📍 Patrick Cummings is a long-time CrossFitter, podcaster, and creator of Functional Branding. Find him on Instagram.
[[]---[]]Chasing Excellence is an audience-supported project. To go deeper & to help us do even more, consider:Subscribing to our newsletter to get our free posts and upgrading to our Chase Club to receive exclusive content.Grabbing one of our books: Chasing Excellence, Unlocking Potential, or The ABCs of Being Happy & Healthy.Supporting one of our fantastic show sponsors.

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May 30, 2023 • 56min
Building a Buffer of Mental Fitness
We’re taking a listener question about helping our kids avoid some of the adversities of life and talking broadly about stimulus and response, being generation breakers, and why “what we do around here” is such a powerful force. =========== EXPECT TO LEARN: =========== 📍 How to improve our aerobic capacity 📍 Why your gym community can serve as a useful decisional filter 📍 How defaulting to simplicity is a powerful communication strategy 📍 The importance of awareness in rebuilding a relationship 📍 Why it’s essential to give our phones a job and a place =========== OUR SPONSORS: =========== 🔗 Caldera + Lab 🔗 Timeline Nutrition =========== GET A QUESTION IN THE QUEUE: =========== 🔗 Send Patrick a DM with your Five Factors questions! =========== ABOUT US: =========== 📍 Ben Bergeron is a best-selling author, coach to 7 CrossFit Games champions, and founder of CompTrain. Find him on Instagram. 📍 Patrick Cummings is a long-time CrossFitter and podcaster. Find him on Instagram.
[[]---[]]Chasing Excellence is an audience-supported project. To go deeper & to help us do even more, consider:Subscribing to our newsletter to get our free posts and upgrading to our Chase Club to receive exclusive content.Grabbing one of our books: Chasing Excellence, Unlocking Potential, or The ABCs of Being Happy & Healthy.Supporting one of our fantastic show sponsors.

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May 23, 2023 • 1h 11min
Is CrossFit in 2023 Watered Down?
We’re answering a listener question about whether CrossFit affiliates are offering a “watered down” version of CrossFit, and whether that’s a good thing if so. We’re talking about the CrossFit Games, standardization across gyms, Hyrox, and more. =========== EXPECT TO LEARN: =========== 📍 Whether our mobility work should be consistent or varied 📍 How to stop comparing yourself to your gym buddies 📍 Ben’s recommendations for bloodwork 📍 How to make time for yourself with young kids 📍 A strategy for leaders to work with folks who are resistant to coaching =========== OUR SPONSORS: =========== 🔗 LMNT 🔗 Ice Barrel 🔗 Eight Sleep =========== GET A QUESTION IN THE QUEUE: =========== 🔗 Send Patrick a DM with your Five Factors questions! =========== ABOUT US: =========== 📍 Ben Bergeron is a best-selling author, coach to 7 CrossFit Games champions, and founder of CompTrain. Find him on Instagram. 📍 Patrick Cummings is a long-time CrossFitter and podcaster. Find him on Instagram.
[[]---[]]Chasing Excellence is an audience-supported project. To go deeper & to help us do even more, consider:Subscribing to our newsletter to get our free posts and upgrading to our Chase Club to receive exclusive content.Grabbing one of our books: Chasing Excellence, Unlocking Potential, or The ABCs of Being Happy & Healthy.Supporting one of our fantastic show sponsors.

May 16, 2023 • 1h 4min
Living with Integrity and Finding Balance, w/ Julie Foucher
Should we sacrifice now for security later, forgo security later and enjoy now, or find a balance between the two? Friend-of-the-show Julie Foucher joins us to talk through that and listener questions about why she’s training now, how to handle rep shavers, and more. =========== EXPECT TO LEARN: =========== 📍 How hard it was for Julie to transition out of being a CrossFit Games athlete 📍 Why “feeling” fitter might be more important than chasing specific numbers 📍 What parasympathetic lash-back is and why performers need to be wary of it 📍 How to deal with rep shavers and workout cheaters 📍 Our experience trying to cut our social media use by 50% =========== OUR SPONSORS: =========== 🔗 Landkind 🔗 Timeline Nutrition =========== GET A QUESTION IN THE QUEUE: =========== 🔗 Send Patrick a DM with your Five Factors questions! =========== ABOUT US: =========== 📍 Ben Bergeron is a best-selling author, coach to 7 CrossFit Games champions, and founder of CompTrain. Find him on Instagram. 📍 Patrick Cummings is a long-time CrossFitter and podcaster. Find him on Instagram.
[[]---[]]Chasing Excellence is an audience-supported project. To go deeper & to help us do even more, consider:Subscribing to our newsletter to get our free posts and upgrading to our Chase Club to receive exclusive content.Grabbing one of our books: Chasing Excellence, Unlocking Potential, or The ABCs of Being Happy & Healthy.Supporting one of our fantastic show sponsors.

May 12, 2023 • 13min
Quick Set: The Bamboo Forest
In February of 2021, we released an episode called “Overcoming Excellence Fatigue.” It started with a question about how to exist inside the gap between where we are and where we want to be. Here’s a clip about how Ben thinks about that gap. ==========SUBSCRIBE ========== Apple Pods: tinyurl.com/3nu78tsh Spotify: tinyurl.com/ekhp3cce YouTube: tinyurl.com/9uktjdfs
[[]---[]]Chasing Excellence is an audience-supported project. To go deeper & to help us do even more, consider:Subscribing to our newsletter to get our free posts and upgrading to our Chase Club to receive exclusive content.Grabbing one of our books: Chasing Excellence, Unlocking Potential, or The ABCs of Being Happy & Healthy.Supporting one of our fantastic show sponsors.