
The Learn to Love Podcast
The Learn to Love podcast is your guide to everything love, sex, intimacy, and relationships.
Every week your host, Zach Beach, interviews new experts on love, including couples’ therapists, relationship coaches, sex educators, and best-selling authors.
Learn the best tips and cutting edge wisdom to better love yourself, others, and the world.
Thanks so much for listening, we hope you enjoy the show. Learn more at www.zachbeach.com and www.the-heart-center.com
Latest episodes

Jul 21, 2024 • 41min
Ep 141: Make your relationship STRONG with Kristal DeSantis
Therapist and author, Kristal DeSantis, shares insights on building trust and safety in relationships, understanding male psychology, and bridging communication gaps between men and women. The discussion covers emotional connection, societal influences on relationships, and the importance of vulnerability and nurturing. Emphasizing the significance of self-awareness, effective communication, and active investment in relationships for long-lasting connections.

Jul 7, 2024 • 47min
Ep 140: The Wound of Love: Mysticism & Eroticism with David M. Odorisio, PhD
Are we seeing a resurgence in mystical practices? How is eros foundational to an interpretation of scripture? What can mystical writings teach us about attachment theory?
Find out the answer to these questions and more in this week's episode of The Learn to Love Podcast, where your host Zach Beach interviews the professor, editor, and researcher David M. Odorisio, PhD on The Wound of Love: Mysticism & Eroticism.
For more on this episode click here: https://www.the-heart-center.com/ep-140-the-wound-of-love-mysticism-eroticism-with-david-odorisio-phd/
Learn more about your guest below:
David M. Odorisio, PhD is Associate Core Faculty at Pacifica Graduate Institute, where he teaches in the Mythological Studies and Psychology, Religion, and Consciousness MA/PhD programs. David received his MA in the History of Christian Spirituality from St. John's University (Collegeville, MN) and his PhD in East-West Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies (San Francisco).
David is the editor of four volumes, including: Thomas Merton in California: The Redwoods Conferences and Letters; A New Gnosis: Comic Books, Comparative Mythology, and Depth Psychology; Merton & Hinduism: The Yoga of the Heart; and co-editor of Depth Psychology and Mysticism. David teaches courses in the areas of psychology and religion, comparative mysticism, and contemplative spirituality. He currently serves as Co-Chair of the Mysticism Unit for the American Academy of Religion.
Learn more at
www.ahomeforsoul.com
https://www.instagram.com/thomas_merton_california/
https://www.pacifica.edu/faculty/david-odorisio/
https://twitter.com/MonkRocker
Thomas Merton in California: https://amzn.to/4evuS5M
A New Gnosis: https://amzn.to/4eqHETj
Depth Psychology and Mysticism: https://amzn.to/3XsQGsK
Subjects mentioned in the show:
Bernard McGinn, The Essential Writings of Christian Mysticism (anthology of sources)
Classics of Western Spirituality Series (Paulist Press)
John of the Cross, Dark Night & Living Flame of Love (Selected Works)
Teresa of Avila, Interior Castle
Marguerite Porete, The Mirror of Simple Souls
Mechtild of Magdeburg, The Flowing Light of the Godhead
Hadewijch of Antwerp, Selected Works
Daniel London, The Cloud of Unknowing, Distilled
Learn more about your host and the show at:
www.zachbeach.com
www.the-heart-center.com
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Jun 23, 2024 • 44min
Ep 139: Improving Mother-Daughter Relationships with Debra Mandel, Ph.D.
How have gender roles shifted in our relationships? How can struggling mothers connect better with their daughters? What does it mean to have a family-centered family?
Find out the answer to these questions and more in this week's episode of The Learn to Love Podcast, where your host Zach Beach interviews the author, psychologist and Love Warrior, Dr. Debra Mandel on Improving Mother-Daughter Relationships.
For more on this episode click here: https://www.the-heart-center.com/ep-139-improving-mother-daughter-relationships-with-debra-mandel-ph-d/
Learn more about your guest below:
Nationally renowned psychologist and author of four published books (Don’t Call Me a Drama Queen, Dump That Chump, Your Boss Is Not Your Mother and Healing the Sensitive Heart), “Dr. Debra” Mandel, aka The Love Warrior has over thirty years of experience specializing in helping individuals, couples, and families learn how to thrive in their relationships. She has extensive training, and treatment experience, with addictions, eating disorders, depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress, and abuse from childhood. Dr. Debra adapts her style and approach to meet the needs of her clients--understanding that no two people are exactly alike, and hence, each requires individualized care!
If Dr. Debra’s name sounds familiar, it’s no wonder. She has appeared on hundreds of national TV and radio shows including Raising Sextuplets, Love Handles, Tyra Banks, The Today Show, and The Early Show. She has been a regularly featured expert on CNN Headline News, The O’Reilly Factor, and Inside Edition and is frequently sought out by journalists and reporters for her expertise in numerous areas. She co-hosted her own radio show The Dr Debra and Therapist Kelli Show on latalkradio.com, accumulating over a million listeners.
Dr. Debra incorporates a variety of methods in her practice (including EMDR and EFT for trauma), using a compassionate tone coupled with an interactive approach. She currently practices via telehealth from her home in Thousand Oaks, California. For more details on her practice and products, please visit her at www.drdebraonline.com.
Learn more at
https://drdebraonline.com/
https://www.facebook.com/DrDebraM/
https://x.com/DrDebraMandel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg8Rr98_iwmpnx0_gz2BdBw
https://www.instagram.com/dr.debramandel/
Sassy and Rude: https://amzn.to/3VLAhyA
Healing the Sensitive Heart: https://amzn.to/3Xn9zgQ
Your Boss Is Not Your Mother: https://amzn.to/3VK3hXf
Dump That Chump: https://amzn.to/3XnXdVP
Don't Call me a Drama Queen: https://amzn.to/3Xt0Olo
Learn more about your host and the show at:
www.zachbeach.com
www.the-heart-center.com
*****Support The Show******
If you like the show there are many ways you can support it, such as,
Schedule a FREE love coaching session with Zach: https://www.zachbeach.com/coaching/
Check out one of our sponsors, Listenable, and use the discount code “zachbeach” for the first seven days on the platform for free. There you can find Zach’s How To Be a Better Partner Course: https://frstre.com/go/?a=76205-87a7d9&s=1256514-e13191&p_affiliate.referral_code=zachbeach
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Jun 9, 2024 • 47min
Ep 138: Becoming Better Men with Eric FitzMedrud, PhD
What’s up with men? Are they under attack, or finally being held accountable? What are the first steps to making better men? What is the only love that really matters?
Find out the answer to these questions and more in this week's episode of The Learn to Love Podcast, where your host Zach Beach interviews the therapist and author Eric FitzMedrud on Becoming Better Men.
For more on this episode click here:
https://www.the-heart-center.com/ep-138-becoming-better-men-with-eric-fitzmedrud-phd/
Learn more about your guest below:
Eric FitzMedrud, PhD is a therapist specializing in relationship and sexual issues in the San Francisco Bay Area. His specialty is helping men improve their sex lives by learning to regulate their emotions, removing sexual entitlement, and honing their sexual consent and negotiation skills.
FitzMedrud is a member of the American Association of Sexuality Educators, Counselors, and Therapists. He has been published in an academic book an academic journal and has spoken at multiple conferences. He has also trained therapists and taught many graduate courses in psychology.
FitzMedrud has a PhD in Clinical Psychology from the Institute of Transpersonal Psychology. He is polyamorous and bisexual, and lives with his wife of twenty-three years and his life partner of six years in San Francisco’s East Bay area, California.
Learn more at
https://www.drericfitz.com/
https://www.instagram.com/drericfitz/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/drericfitz/
https://www.tiktok.com/@drericfitz?lang=en
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfnOXDhCvLxP30qUhTazhkA
Get the book: https://amzn.to/44Y7Wbh
Learn more about your host and the show at:
www.zachbeach.com
www.the-heart-center.com
*****Support The Show******
If you like the show there are many ways you can support it, such as,
Schedule a FREE love coaching session with Zach: https://www.zachbeach.com/coaching/
Check out one of our sponsors, Listenable, and use the discount code “zachbeach” for the first seven days on the platform for free. There you can find Zach’s How To Be a Better Partner Course: https://frstre.com/go/?a=76205-87a7d9&s=1256514-e13191&p_affiliate.referral_code=zachbeach
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May 26, 2024 • 42min
Ep 137: Overcoming Anxious Attachment with Leslie Becker-Phelps, PhD
Are we living in anxious times? What is compassionate self-awareness? How can an understanding of our “model of self” help us build a more secure attachment style?
Find out the answer to these questions and more in this week's episode of The Learn to Love Podcast, where your host Zach Beach interviews the author, speaker, and psychologist Leslie Becker-Phelps, PhD on Overcoming Anxious Attachment
For more on this episode click here: https://www.the-heart-center.com/ep-137-overcoming-anxious-attachment-with-leslie-becker-phelps-phd/
Learn more about your guest below:
Leslie Becker-Phelps, PhD is an internationally published author, speaker, and psychologist. She is the author of The Insecure in Love Workbook, Insecure in Love, and Bouncing Back from Rejection. Becker-Phelps has a private practice in Basking Ridge, NJ; and is on the medical staff of Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital Somerset.
She came on to the show to talk about her newest book, The Insecure in Love Workbook (New Harbinger Publications, April 2024) which provides step-by-step exercises rooted in self-compassion to move past feelings of anxiety and worry, so readers can feel more secure in themselves and in their relationships. Readers will learn how to:
Recognize physical sensations, negative thoughts, distressing emotions, and unhealthy behavior patterns that underlie their insecurity
Respond to triggers without beating themselves up
Overcome self-doubt, neediness and possessiveness
Break the cycle of insecurity and self-sabotage and cultivate self-acceptance
Learn more at
https://drbecker-phelps.com/
https://www.facebook.com/DrLeslieBP
https://twitter.com/DrLeslieBP/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC99-YM7u9FCQ2U1UOxXmOiA
Insecure in Love Workbook: https://amzn.to/4dGxai5
Insecure in Love: https://amzn.to/3yhXsqN
Bouncing Back from Rejection: https://amzn.to/4dBCjbf
Learn more about your host and the show at:
www.zachbeach.com
www.the-heart-center.com
*****Support The Show******
If you like the show there are many ways you can support it, such as,
Schedule a FREE love coaching session with Zach: https://www.zachbeach.com/coaching/
Check out one of our sponsors, Listenable, and use the discount code “zachbeach” for the first seven days on the platform for free. There you can find Zach’s How To Be a Better Partner Course: https://frstre.com/go/?a=76205-87a7d9&s=1256514-e13191&p_affiliate.referral_code=zachbeach
Purchase a book from our blossoming professional network: https://www.the-heart-center.com/books/
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May 12, 2024 • 55min
Ep 136: All about Limerence with Thais Gibson
In this engaging discussion, Thais Gibson, a therapist and attachment expert, unpacks the complexities of limerence—an intense emotional state often confused with love. She explores the differences between infatuation and genuine love, emphasizing emotional regulation and healthy communication. Gibson also shares insights on reprogramming negative beliefs through auto-suggestion and highlights the importance of self-love. With her unique framework, she encourages listeners to foster genuine connections and prioritize personal growth in their relationship journeys.

Apr 28, 2024 • 48min
Ep 135: Speaking From the Heart with Dr. Heather Browne, PsyD, LMFT
If the heart could speak, what would it say? What is the one lie that destroys relationships? What are the five components of healthy communication?
Find out the answer to these questions and more in this week's episode of The Learn to Love Podcast, where your host Zach Beach interviews the therapist, speaker, and author Dr. Heather Browne on Speaking From the Heart.
For more on this episode click here:
the-heart-center.com/ep-135-speaking-from-the-heart-with-dr-heather-browne-psyd-lmft/
Learn more about your guest below:
Dr. Heather Browne PsyD, LMFT helps people recognize the power of communication. It is one of our most important skills that we have, and yet we don’t consider our understanding, approach, belief, and therefore, miss our possibilities. Living with a paranoid schizophrenic mother gave Dr. Heather a unique and powerful awareness that no one has the same reality, though we believe we do. Utilizing this revolutionary awareness has allowed her to transform communication within self and within all other types of relationships. This is the hidden key to acceptance. And this is her mission to share.
As a relationship expert, Dr. Heather Browne has worked with thousands of individuals and couples in psychotherapy. She is a TedX and keynote speaker, a published in hundreds of journals, has an active TikTok channel, has been featured on ABC-7 news, was the relationship expert on KDOC Daybreak OC, and is published in Inc., Toronto Sun, Thriving Family Magazine, Light + Life, BRAINZ, Scary Mommy, and Psychology Today. She is a regular guest blogger for both Links for Shrinks and for Marriage Friendly Therapists.
Learn more at
https://www.drheatherbrowne.com/
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100087652243855
https://www.instagram.com/dr.heatherbrowne/
https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermbrowne?_t=8j6SnPCuONO&_r=1
https://www.youtube.com/@dr.heatherbrowne
Learn more about your host and the show at:
www.zachbeach.com
www.the-heart-center.com
*****Support The Show******
If you like the show there are many ways you can support it, such as,
Schedule a FREE love coaching session with Zach: https://www.zachbeach.com/coaching/
Check out one of our sponsors, Listenable, and use the discount code “zachbeach” for the first seven days on the platform for free. There you can find Zach’s How To Be a Better Partner Course: https://frstre.com/go/?a=76205-87a7d9&s=1256514-e13191&p_affiliate.referral_code=zachbeach
Purchase a book from our blossoming professional network: https://www.the-heart-center.com/books/
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Apr 14, 2024 • 46min
Ep 134: Helping High-Conflict Couples with Jennine Estes Powell, LMFT and Jacqueline Wielick, LMFT
What are the stages of Emotionally Focused Therapy? How important is safety in our relationships? What can couples do to reduce conflict?
Find out the answer to these questions and more in this week's episode of The Learn to Love Podcast, where your host Zach Beach interviews both the therapists and coauthors Jennine Estes Powell, and Jacqueline Wielick on Helping High-Conflict Couples
For more on this episode click here: the-heart-center.com/ep-134-helping-high-conflict-couples-with-jennine-estes-powell-lmft-and-jacqueline-wielick-lmft/
Learn more about your guest below:
Jennine Estes Powell, LMFT, is founder of Estes Therapy, a group practice working with all aspects of relationships. She is a licensed marriage and family therapist, certified in emotionally focused therapy (EFT), and specializes in training therapists to work with couples.
Jacqueline Wielick, LMFT, is a licensed marriage and family therapist and owner of her own private practice, Therapy by Jackie. She specializes in working with couples, relationships, emotions, trauma, and attachment, and has advanced training in EFT and other research-based theories.
Learn more at
https://HelpForHighConflictCouples.com
https://www.jackiewielick.com/
https://estestherapy.com
https://jenninepowell.com
https://instagram.com/estes_therapy
https://www.instagram.com/jacquelinejeannew/
#BeingLOVEDIs campaign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qd_f4ljx7U
Get the book: https://amzn.to/3TxO76z
Learn more about your host and the show at:
www.zachbeach.com
www.the-heart-center.com
*****Support The Show******
If you like the show there are many ways you can support it, such as,
Schedule a FREE love coaching session with Zach: https://www.zachbeach.com/coaching/
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Mar 31, 2024 • 44min
Ep 133: Security After Separation with Aurisha Smolarski, LMFT
What are the basic principles of building secure attachment in our children? How can divorced parents co-parent together? What are the six principles of cooperative co-parenting?
Find out the answer to these questions and more in this week's episode of The Learn to Love Podcast, where your host Zach Beach interviews the Marriage and Family Therapist and author, Aurisha Smolarski.
For more on this episode click here:
the-heart-center.com/ep-133-security-after-separation-with-aurisha-smolarski-lmft/
Learn more about your guest below:
Aurisha Smolarski, LMFT, is a licensed marriage and family therapist, certified co-parenting coach, and mediator with a clinical practice in Los Angeles, CA. She specializes in working with co-parents, couples, and individuals.
As a mom and co-parent herself, she is very familiar with the challenges faced by parents raising kids in two households. For more than ten years, she has drawn on attachment theory and other modalities to help clients navigate their emotional whirlwinds and create a secure co-parenting family.
Learn more at
https://www.aurishasmolarski.com/
https://www.instagram.com/cooperativecoparenting/
https://www.facebook.com/cooperativecoparenting
Get the book: https://amzn.to/3Pb2POa
Learn more about your host and the show at:
www.zachbeach.com
www.the-heart-center.com
*****Support The Show******
If you like the show there are many ways you can support it, such as,
Schedule a FREE love coaching session with Zach: https://www.zachbeach.com/coaching/
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Purchase a book from our blossoming professional network: https://www.the-heart-center.com/books/
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Mar 17, 2024 • 46min
Ep 132: Love Hacks with Kelli Miller
Why are relationships harder now than they were 10 years ago? What is fast food communication and how can it help our relationships? What are the best solutions to common relationship problems?
Find out the answer to these questions and more in this week's episode of The Learn to Love Podcast, where your host Zach Beach interviews the psychotherapist, best-selling author, and radio host Kelli Miller on Love Hacks: Simple Solutions to Your Most Common Relationship Issues
For more on this episode click here:
the-heart-center.com/ep-132-love-hacks-with-kelli-miller/
Learn more about your guest below:
Kelli Miller, LCSW, MSW is a psychotherapist, best-selling author, and radio host. Kelli is the author of the couples relationship book “Love Hacks: Simple Solutions to Your Most Common Relationship Issues” and the award winning and best-selling author of “Thriving with ADHD”.
She was a relationship host on Balance by Nature TV and is current- ly a writer and relationship host for wikihow.com. Kelli was a co-host on LA Talk Radio with over 1 million listeners, 250 guest celebrities and authors, and an expert radio personality for SIRIUS/XM Radio.
She was the “Women’s Relationship Expert” on the Examiner.com and also the advice columnist to the largest listserv in the country as well as a freelance writer to over 12 magazines and newspapers. She was recently quoted in Oprah magazine in three separate relationship articles.
Learn more at
https://kellimillertherapy.com/
https://www.facebook.com/kellimillertherapy
https://www.instagram.com/kellimillertherapy/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChY211tPLsK3ewhngMgM25A
Get the book: https://amzn.to/49sJ4Js
Learn more about your host and the show at:
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www.the-heart-center.com
*****Support The Show******
If you like the show there are many ways you can support it, such as,
Schedule a FREE love coaching session with Zach: https://www.zachbeach.com/coaching/
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Purchase a book from our blossoming professional network: https://www.the-heart-center.com/books/
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