
Columbia Energy Exchange
Columbia Energy Exchange features in-depth conversations with the world’s top energy and climate leaders from government, business, academia and civil society. The program explores today’s most pressing opportunities and challenges across energy sources, financial markets, geopolitics and climate change as well as their implications for both the U.S. and the world.
Latest episodes

May 7, 2024 • 48min
Navigating Indonesia’s Energy Transition
Exploring Indonesia's energy transition, balancing economic development with climate goals. Discussing challenges of reducing coal reliance, increasing renewables. Emphasis on policy reforms, sustainability, and regional collaborations in Southeast Asia.

Apr 30, 2024 • 40min
Indigenous Rights in the Energy Transition
Across the U.S., large scale renewable energy projects, transmission lines, and mining sites for critical minerals are built on or near tribal lands. For example, the federal government plans to loan billions of dollars to Lithium Americas to develop a lithium mine in Nevada at a location known as Thacker Pass, sacred to local Paiute and Shoshone people. With the tumultuous history of energy development on indigenous lands, many tribes are pushing back on citing new infrastructure on their land. So, how is the energy transition impacting Native American communities? And what are advocacy groups and the federal government doing to protect indigenous rights and lands? This week host Bill Loveless talks with Kate Finn about the contentious history of energy projects on Native American lands, how that history influences energy development today, and how her organization is working to ensure Native Americans have a seat at the table in determining how best to use indigenous lands. Kate is the executive director of First Peoples Worldwide, an organization focused on upholding the rights, sovereignty, and economic power of Indigenous People around the world. She was the inaugural American Indian Law Program Fellow at the University of Colorado Law, where she worked directly with tribes and Native communities. Her recent work focuses on the impacts of development in Indigenous communities, and embedding respect for Indigenous peoples into routine business operations.

Apr 23, 2024 • 33min
The Shifting World Order
Geopolitics looms large over the global economy. A recent client survey by Goldman Sachs found geopolitics is the top investment risk of this year, overtaking inflation and the upcoming U.S. presidential election. The market impacts by the wars in Europe and the Middle East, and the rising tension between China and Taiwan, are hard to predict. And the rise of protectionism, economic fragmentation, and industrial policy are inflaming tensions in a new era of great power competition. So, how should we understand this shifting world order? What is coming next in the Middle East following Iran’s attack on Israel? And how do energy and climate change impact national security? This week’s episode features a fireside chat between Jason Bordoff and Tom Donilon from the Columbia Global Energy Summit 2024, which was hosted by the Center on Global Energy Policy, Columbia SIPA last week at Columbia University in New York. Tom is chairman of the BlackRock Investment Institute. From 2010 to 2013, he served as national security advisor to President Barack Obama. He has worked closely with and advised three U.S. presidents since his first position at the White House in 1977, working with President Carter. He later served in senior roles in the Pentagon and the State Department.

Apr 16, 2024 • 46min
E-Fuels: A Drop-in Solution for Transport?
Cleaner alternatives to the oil and gas that power vital industries are necessary for economy-wide decarbonization. E-fuels, or electrofuels, are touted as a carbon neutral solution for the hard-to-decarbonize sectors that rely on energy dense fossil fuels. E-fuels are made by combining hydrogen with carbon dioxide. Through the electrolysis process, water is split into oxygen and hydrogen atoms. The hydrogen is then combined with CO2 through a process called synthesis. The outcome is an energy-dense liquid, synthetic fuel. But currently, the e-fuels production process makes these alternatives more expensive than fossil fuels. And when burned, they release CO2, making critics question the claims of climate neutrality. So, what is the climate impact of e-fuels? What industries are turning to these alternatives for decarbonization? And how can policy and tax incentives make them cost competitive with conventional oil and gas? This week host Bill Loveless talks with Meg Gentle about the use of e-fuels for transport. Meg is the executive director of HIF Global, an e-fuel company developing some of the largest projects around the world. Before joining HIF, Meg served as the director of Ovintiv, an independent petroleum company, and as the president and CEO of the natural gas company Tellurian. She also spent ten years working for Cheniere Energy, helping grow their LNG marketing and trading company into a world-wide business.

Apr 9, 2024 • 55min
AI for Climate Change Mitigation
Discover how AI can revolutionize the energy transition by monitoring emissions, optimizing renewables, and reducing emissions in sectors like steel and cement. Explore the challenges and solutions of AI integration, revolutionizing greenhouse gas monitoring, and transforming the power sector for more efficiency. Unveil the potential of AI for climate change mitigation with interdisciplinary expertise and data accessibility.

Apr 2, 2024 • 43min
The SEC Mandates Climate Disclosures
The podcast discusses the SEC's new rules on climate disclosures, requiring companies to disclose emissions and climate risks. Critics question legality and effectiveness. Guest Shiva Rajgopal explains the ruling and compares it to EU and California rules. Topics include SEC actions, passive investing challenges, ESG principles, and legal implications of the new rule.

Mar 26, 2024 • 53min
Oil and Gas in the Energy Transition: An NGO Perspective
Discussions on the importance of cutting methane emissions in the oil and gas industry, the role of national oil companies in the energy transition, and the challenges of balancing profitability and sustainability. Highlights include strategies for reducing methane pollution, the need for cleaner energy sources, and the industry's commitment to decarbonization by 2030.

Mar 19, 2024 • 53min
Navigating Uncertainty in the Energy Market
Global energy transition towards clean energy amidst rising demand for fossil fuels, insights from CERAWeek conference, navigating challenges of decarbonization and energy security, impact of geopolitics and elections on energy sector, exploration of oil, gas, and commodity markets, accelerating shift to renewables and balancing national interests in renewable energy sources.

Mar 12, 2024 • 41min
Can Capitalism Work for a Clean Energy Economy?
Exploring the shift towards clean energy solutions in the economic landscape and the profitability of moving away from fossil fuels. Delving into the concept of climate capitalism and how it integrates societal needs and sustainability within capitalism. Discussing the transformative journey of Juan Gong in advocating for electric cars in China and the pivotal roles of key individuals in shaping the energy transition landscape. Navigating climate questions and solutions while exploring current clean energy solutions and systemic challenges.

Mar 8, 2024 • 46min
The Big Switch: Are Batteries the New Oil?
Batteries are finding their way into everything – from cars to heavy equipment to the electric grid. But scaling up production to meet the demands of a net-zero economy is complicated and contentious. Season 4 of The Big Switch, a Columbia University podcast hosted by Dr. Melissa Lott, digs into the ways batteries are made and asks: what gets mined, traded, and consumed on the road to decarbonization? This is part one of “The Great Battery Boom,” a five-part series on global battery supply chains. Find the rest of Season 4 of The Big Switch on Apple podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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